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Worldmark offers a program where they buy back weeks to offset the maintenance fees - this program is expensive to join
is it worth it?
 

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I am not familiar with it, but most TS programs that use points/credits for other things (MFs, air travel, car rental, etc.) are no where near the MF cost for those points. I guess it would be an option if they were going to expire, but you are better off renting them to another owner for $0.07 - $0.08 per credit.
 

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I think I know what you are talking about. It is a Wyndham Plan. You Book a week with your Worldmark Points and turn it over to Wyndham. They will try and rent out all or part of it. They take a 40% Cut from the Rental. There is no guarantee by Wyndham on how many of the 7 days they will be able to rent. It can be zero days. It can be all 7 days. The only guarantees are you are out all of the Points it took to make 7 day the Reservation and Wyndham will take 40% of what ever rent is paid.
 

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I’d rent my credits to other owners for $0.06-.09 each than participate in Wyndham’s program.
 

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I buy credits for big trips. The average price has been about 7 cents a credit. I was bummed out when Wyndham changed the housekeeping rule in 2016 so we can't buy these. I think hk tokens are about $116 this year. Even so, where else can you get a nice 2 bed unit in a nice area for about $816.00 a week ?

Bill
 

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I buy credits for big trips. The average price has been about 7 cents a credit. I was bummed out when Wyndham changed the housekeeping rule in 2016 so we can't buy these. I think hk tokens are about $116 this year. Even so, where else can you get a nice 2 bed unit in a nice area for about $816.00 a week ?

Bill
I really think those fees are high. A hotel room takes 20-45 minutes to clean. If you triple that you are at 1 hour - 2 hour 15 minutes. If they paid the housekeeper $20 per hour you are looking at cleaning costs of $20 to $45. Add in another $5-$10 for cleaning supplies and you are still 1/4-1/3 of what they charge.
 

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I really think those fees are high. A hotel room takes 20-45 minutes to clean. If you triple that you are at 1 hour - 2 hour 15 minutes. If they paid the housekeeper $20 per hour you are looking at cleaning costs of $20 to $45. Add in another $5-$10 for cleaning supplies and you are still 1/4-1/3 of what they charge.

Yes, I think the fee is high. Wyndham is adding their cost to manage the housekeeping program and they need a 30% profit.

Bill
 

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I won't say the housekeeping fee is a bargain, but I will say that you are severely understating what it takes to turn over a room. Yes, there is the actual wages to the housekeeper (plus taxes and benefits). Then there are the supplies - both used to clean and left for you to use. Then there is supervision. Then all of that laundry has to be cleaned. And yes, Wyndham gets a fee for managing everything.

Also, it takes a long time to clean kitchens and bathrooms especially. And remember how everything is always perfectly in its place in the kitchen. Someone spent time doing that.
 

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I really think those fees are high. A hotel room takes 20-45 minutes to clean. If you triple that you are at 1 hour - 2 hour 15 minutes. If they paid the housekeeper $20 per hour you are looking at cleaning costs of $20 to $45. Add in another $5-$10 for cleaning supplies and you are still 1/4-1/3 of what they charge.
Yes, I think the fee is high. Wyndham is adding their cost to manage the housekeeping program and they need a 30% profit.

Bill

These are the actual total costs for WorldMark housekeeping in 2021. A "Turn" is the housekeeping following a stay.

There is no "30% profit" for Wyndham in the costs.

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These are the actual total costs for WorldMark housekeeping in 2021. A "Turn" is the housekeeping following a stay.

There is no "30% profit" for Wyndham in the costs.

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Thx. how does this translate to unit size? Also seems it should be prorated somewhat on length of stay. After all fax time is as little as $80 per night with now fee.
 
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Thx. how does this translate to unit size?
It is an average for all unit sizes. There are somewhat increased costs for larger units versus studio or 1 bedroom. That is reflected when paying cash for housekeeping versus using a HK token, and why when owners expect to run short of HK tokens, they pay cash for smaller unit stays and save the HKs for larger unit stays.


Also seems it should be prorated somewhat on length of stay. After all fax time is as little as $80 per night with now fee.

It is the same size unit to clean whether the stay was for a few nights or a full month. One night stays using a cash option that includes complimentary housekeeping is a money loser for the Club, so all owners subsize these one-night stays to a certain extent.
 

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Thx. how does this translate to unit size? Also seems it should be prorated somewhat on length of stay. After all fax time is as little as $80 per night with now fee.

It is an overall average. It costs the same no matter whether you stay 1 night or a week. And to your point it shows what a bargain $80 per night is - especially for a one night stay.
 
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