Looking for Specific Type of Trader for Friend

[twinmommy19]

Hi all -

I'm trying to help my friends purchase their first timeshare. They are a couple in their 60s with no school age children - my friend is retired and her husband will retire in a few years. They live in NJ and want to take frequent golf trips to driving distance locations (does not need to be prime season). I frequently confirm shoulder weeks at Marriott Manor Club for them in Williamsburg using my ACs - that is perfect for them (they don't want to go there to play golf in prime summer!). I love the value that my 4BR summer lock out week offers in Williamsburg would offer for what they want to do (two 2BR deposits and two ACs for a low maintenance) but they specifically do not want to be blocked out from trading into the Marriott in Williamsburg. So this area doesn't work for them.

Does anyone have suggestions for other locations that would provide similar value for what they are trying to do? Criteria - 1) large unit that locks out into two sides - prefer for both to have kitchens but I know that's rare outside of Williamsburg, 2) both sides generally qualify for ACs, 3) Interval trading property (as said - they want to trade into Marriott Manor Club) 4) low maintenance under $1000 per year preferably.

I also want to make sure whatever I recommend will figure to be sellable later (even if just for a $1) so I will encourage them to buy prime season somewhere even though they don't need it. Do the Orlando week 52s qualify for ACs? Branson summer weeks? How about any east coast home resorts that offer free or nominal usage rights at the last minute (subject to availability)? That could work too.

Thanks!

 

[tschwa2]

Maybe an EOY 4 br Williamsburg and an annual or eoy 1 br with MF's under $500.

 

[twinmommy19]

I believe all the Williamsburg properties are blocked from trading into Marriott Manor Club (including the ACs that are tied to them)?

Their primary objective in buying a TS is to be able to trade into Manor Club and other drivable venues from the northeast. Last minute and shoulder season is totally fine. I've used leftover ACs that are tied to our ESJ ownership to book Manor Club for them for the past few years but it's a RTU and the 30 years are ending soon so I won't be able to do this for them anymore - hence why they want to buy their own.

 

[tschwa2]

No what I am saying is buy an EOY Williamsburg to trade places other than Manor Club and buy a 1 br to trade into Manor Club. Unless the plan is to use all of the deposits to exchange into Manor club only.

 

[elaine]

I think that MMC getaways for fall are fairly cheap thru II, so maybe they don't even have to trade? HHI in the summer is a good trader and holds its value well. Myrtle Beach is another option, which they could even use the 1BR side themselves, if they wanted. I agree to only get a prime week. Orlando week 52 is probably a safe bet, as well.

 

[Passepartout]

If one ABSOLUTELY MUST have a certain location and time frame, the ONLY way to assure it is buy where they MUST go. Even if it means buying retail from the developer. Sometimes, if you get exactly what you want, you forget how much it cost.

While we ALWAYS advocate buying resale, it does require a bit of flexibility, and managing of expectations.

Jim

 

[twinmommy19]

Trading into Manor Club is not difficult with flexible dates. I know this for certain as I've been able to confirm 2BR weeks there consistently with ACs as long as it's not July (and they only need a 1BR anyway). I don't believe I'd be providing good advice to tell them to buy Manor Club, even resale, as I feel confident they can trade in easily for the time periods they want and go more frequently for less money with more deposits. The shoulder period getaways are several hundred dollars more than the ACs would cost during shoulder season at the Marriott.

I'm looking to find an area outside of Williamsburg that II offers ACs for deposits, and doesn't charge a high maintenance fee relative to the unit size. The 4BRs in Williamsburg lock out into two 2BR units with two ACs a low maintenance fee (under $1,000 total). Would like to find them something similar without the region Marriott trading block. As I said - I'm not looking for someone to reveal a "Tiger" trader here. This couple doesn't want to travel during peak season to beach or ski areas. Trading into inland golf properties is much easier with less trading power (I know based on what my ESJ deposit can view in open inventory). I'm looking for something that would provide a large volume of deposits for a low maintenance fee.

 

[Seaport104]

Since your friends golf, wouldn't they benefit from the free golf benefits offered to owners at the Marriott Williamsburg properties?

Since they don't need a 2BR, they can buy a Manor Club Sequel. It locks off and it will get them AC's if deposited.

 

[mbeach89]

Just a thought, but why not just rent various timeshares at locations they desire? If high/platinum season is not a requirement, I would think that might just be the most versatile and financially make the most sense.

 

[twinmommy19]

Well actually - they've simply asked about those golf benefits the last couple times they've gone to Manor Club (including their 8/28/2015-9/12/2015 stay) and Manor Club was happy to provide them with the free golf. I guess, it's not enforced that strict for it to only be for owners? I suppose that's subject to change at any time or who happens to be working behind the desk.

Truthfully - golf now has great deals also in that area so I don't think it wouldn't be a big deal if they couldn't get that package with their stay.

 

[ira g]

Are you sure that Marriott has a regional block in Williamsburg, Va? I have never heard of this before.

 

[wackymother]

I believe Interval has a regional block in Williamsburg, and Marriott trades only through Interval.

 

[twinmommy19]

Just a thought, but why not just rent various timeshares at locations they desire? If high/platinum season is not a requirement, I would think that might just be the most versatile and financially make the most sense.

I confirmed two last minute 2 bedroom weeks 8/28 - 9/12 for this couple using an AC and an ESJ deposit I was going to lose this year. The exchange fee was $319 for the AC. I couldn't use an AC tied with my Williamsburg ownership for this particular reservation because of the regional Marriott block (so I had to use another AC deposit). But in theory, if I could, a maintenance fee of under $800 for my 4 BR Williamsburg ownership would entitle them to two real 2 BR deposits (with exchange fees of $175 each), potentially two Choose 2 weeks (additional $185 each to confirm by phone) and two ACs (lets assume they are all in 2BRs so $319 even though a 1BR would be fine for them). If there was no regional block, that would be 7 possible weeks per year for them at Manor Club for $2,158 total (basically at any time of year they want as long as it's not a super prime July week). Even if they could theoretically rent through TUG last minute forum for a similar price, they'd have to deal with the inconvenience of mailing checks, and working with a private renter. Why would that be a better solution than buying something similar to what I own in Williamsburg without the regional block? I'm trying to identify other areas with properties that lock out this way though and I can't seem to find anything?

Bulk deposit areas would be fine - as I said, I don't believe they need a "Tiger" trader for what they are looking for. Does anyone know how the 3BR Ellington SC floating prime season properties lock out? Thanks!

 

[twinmommy19]

Are you sure that Marriott has a regional block in Williamsburg, Va? I have never heard of this before.

If you own in Williamsburg, you cannot trade into the Marriott properties there using that deposit (at least I know I can't using my Williamsburg property).