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Locking off Marriott into two units in an ongoing request search?

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I haven't purchased my Marriott trader yet but am thinking about whether to buy a 3 bedroom and lock off into a 2 bedroom and lockoff 1 bedroom
or the 2 bedroom-1 bedroom/studio combo probably at Grand Chateau. Is the 3 bedroom overkill for trading? Do they make 3 bedroom biennials
or are they just 2 bedrooms? I haven't seen any 3 bedroom biennial listings.

My question is for trading purposes in II how does it work with setting up ongoing requests to upgrade to bigger units?
Are you stuck just manually searching and then paying the upgrade fee if you want to use the studio/1 bedroom to get a 2 bedroom or larger unit or
can you set up an ongoing request and pay the upgrade fee up front with an ongoing request?
I mainly want to use my 1 bedroom side to trade into Oceana Palms which is all 2 bedrooms or Crystal Shores and hoping with the Marriott preference
that I can do an ongoing request and get something in the summer and not just off season like I have been getting with my other traders.

I would probably use the 2 bedroom to try to get another 2 bedroom in DVC or should I be working this the other way around meaning use the
1 bedroom for the DVC trades and the 2 bedroom for the beach trades?
I do tend to go to Disney in the off season except for OKW in the summer for the pools so that would be maybe considered high season.
I've been using my DVC points for that but would love to use a trader instead for those trips and use my points for the better resorts since
I bought them direct from Disney and they don't have any restrictions on use in the newer resorts.

Is this doable?
Thanks.
 

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You can set an going search to only match the size units that you want. You just have to agree that you will pay the up size fee based on what matches with the credit card on file.

I do not think you need to use a 2-bedroom to get a trade into Disney. A good 1-bedroom deposit with high trade power is enough. Getting Disney is more about what they deposit than actual trade power. 98% of the Disney inventory in Interval is SSR & OKW. With AKL the next more likely I would say.

Crystal Shores is a very tough trade. One of the rarest Marriott resorts to see in Interval- but not impossible, particularity in Summer & Fall. You will definitely want to enter an OGS for this one.
 

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I haven't purchased my Marriott trader yet but am thinking about whether to buy a 3 bedroom and lock off into a 2 bedroom and lockoff 1 bedroom
or the 2 bedroom-1 bedroom/studio combo probably at Grand Chateau. Is the 3 bedroom overkill for trading? Do they make 3 bedroom biennials
or are they just 2 bedrooms? I haven't seen any 3 bedroom biennial listings.

My question is for trading purposes in II how does it work with setting up ongoing requests to upgrade to bigger units?
Are you stuck just manually searching and then paying the upgrade fee if you want to use the studio/1 bedroom to get a 2 bedroom or larger unit or
can you set up an ongoing request and pay the upgrade fee up front with an ongoing request?
I mainly want to use my 1 bedroom side to trade into Oceana Palms which is all 2 bedrooms or Crystal Shores and hoping with the Marriott preference
that I can do an ongoing request and get something in the summer and not just off season like I have been getting with my other traders.

I would probably use the 2 bedroom to try to get another 2 bedroom in DVC or should I be working this the other way around meaning use the
1 bedroom for the DVC trades and the 2 bedroom for the beach trades?
I do tend to go to Disney in the off season except for OKW in the summer for the pools so that would be maybe considered high season.
I've been using my DVC points for that but would love to use a trader instead for those trips and use my points for the better resorts since
I bought them direct from Disney and they don't have any restrictions on use in the newer resorts.

Is this doable?
Thanks.
I have a Platinum 2BR Ocean Pointe that I lock off and trade using an OGS for each most years for the past twenty. I almost always trade each for a 2BR unit. That being said, I have tried for Crystal Shores since it opened. The only way I have successfully traded into Crystal Shores was with my MIL's 3 BR Marriott Hilton Head unit for an August 2BR. I would not count on a 1BR trade into Crystal Shores.
 

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I haven't purchased my Marriott trader yet but am thinking about whether to buy a 3 bedroom and lock off into a 2 bedroom and lockoff 1 bedroom
or the 2 bedroom-1 bedroom/studio combo probably at Grand Chateau. Is the 3 bedroom overkill for trading? Do they make 3 bedroom biennials
or are they just 2 bedrooms? I haven't seen any 3 bedroom biennial listings.

My question is for trading purposes in II how does it work with setting up ongoing requests to upgrade to bigger units?
Are you stuck just manually searching and then paying the upgrade fee if you want to use the studio/1 bedroom to get a 2 bedroom or larger unit or
can you set up an ongoing request and pay the upgrade fee up front with an ongoing request?
I mainly want to use my 1 bedroom side to trade into Oceana Palms which is all 2 bedrooms or Crystal Shores and hoping with the Marriott preference
that I can do an ongoing request and get something in the summer and not just off season like I have been getting with my other traders.

I would probably use the 2 bedroom to try to get another 2 bedroom in DVC or should I be working this the other way around meaning use the
1 bedroom for the DVC trades and the 2 bedroom for the beach trades?
I do tend to go to Disney in the off season except for OKW in the summer for the pools so that would be maybe considered high season.
I've been using my DVC points for that but would love to use a trader instead for those trips and use my points for the better resorts since
I bought them direct from Disney and they don't have any restrictions on use in the newer resorts.

Is this doable?
Thanks.
Are you able to plan within a 2 month period? If so My Studio and 1BR Grand Chateau can both see 2 BRs within the 2 period time in summer. if planned further out I see Studio and 1 BR(sometimes) with the studio. my 1BR i havent really looked and as of now i dont see anything past 2 months. - Referring to DVC

If you are planning to do longer than 2 month planning I would suggest getting a 3 BR for 2 BR and hope for 1 BR Into 2 BR. Another thing to consider is some people have mentioned trading powers have gotten a bit less for the highly desired areas like hawaii(possibly DVC too?!?!). Not sure if you have a desire to go there - and if traders get less value then what they use to it might be ok to commit to a 3BR for the long term.
 
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Are you able to plan within a 2 month period? If so My Studio and 1BR Grand Chateau can both see 2 BRs within the 2 period time in summer. if planned further out I see Studio and 1 BR(sometimes) with the studio. my 1BR i havent really looked and as of now i dont see anything past 2 months.

If you are planning to do longer than 2 month planning I would suggest getting a 3 BR for 2 BR and hope for 1 BR Into 2 BR. Another thing to consider is some people have mentioned trading powers have gotten a bit less for the highly desired areas like hawaii(possibly DVC too?!?!). Not sure if you have a desire to go there - and if traders get less value then what they use to it might be ok to commit to a 3BR for the long term.
You can see Crystal Shores for this summer with a studio and 1BR Grand Chateau?
 

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I have Marriott's Shadow Ridge Enclaves, platinum season, 2 bedroom lockoff. It's like Lakeshore Reserve because it has the big one bedroom and the lockoff side is actually pretty big and not just a small studio. That unit trades extremely well, both sides of the lockoff.

We haven't stayed at Crystal Shores lately. I don't know which resort I used to trade into Crystal Shores, but I am sure it had to be Willow Ridge because that is the only thing we owned in 2018, when we went, and it was January, which is what I wanted for the weather.
 

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You can set an going search to only match the size units that you want. You just have to agree that you will pay the up size fee based on what matches with the credit card on file.

I do not think you need to use a 2-bedroom to get a trade into Disney. A good 1-bedroom deposit with high trade power is enough. Getting Disney is more about what they deposit than actual trade power. 98% of the Disney inventory in Interval is SSR & OKW. With AKL the next more likely I would say.

Crystal Shores is a very tough trade. One of the rarest Marriott resorts to see in Interval- but not impossible, particularity in Summer & Fall. You will definitely want to enter an OGS for this one.

SSR, AKL and OKW are fine.
I didn’t expect to get the others but if they came through great. I have DVC points for the others. I just want a 2 bedroom anywhere on site. Actually prefer OKW or AKL.


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I have a Platinum 2BR Ocean Pointe that I lock off and trade using an OGS for each most years for the past twenty. I almost always trade each for a 2BR unit. That being said, I have tried for Crystal Shores since it opened. The only way I have successfully traded into Crystal Shores was with my MIL's 3 BR Marriott Hilton Head unit for an August 2BR. I would not count on a 1BR trade into Crystal Shores.

Thanks.
I was thinking to set up the search for oceana palms and Crystal shores and hope to get lucky but I know that most likely it will be the palms which is fine.
I own HGVC so can stay on Marco island with the club points.
We are here this week next to the Marriott hotel.
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Are you able to plan within a 2 month period? If so My Studio and 1BR Grand Chateau can both see 2 BRs within the 2 period time in summer. if planned further out I see Studio and 1 BR(sometimes) with the studio. my 1BR i havent really looked and as of now i dont see anything past 2 months. - Referring to DVC

If you are planning to do longer than 2 month planning I would suggest getting a 3 BR for 2 BR and hope for 1 BR Into 2 BR. Another thing to consider is some people have mentioned trading powers have gotten a bit less for the highly desired areas like hawaii(possibly DVC too?!?!). Not sure if you have a desire to go there - and if traders get less value then what they use to it might be ok to commit to a 3BR for the long term.

Yes I can easily plan last minute.
We live in Miami.
But we do like to plan several trips to Disney so we usually do one big trip for a week and several 4-5 day long weekend trips.


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SSR, AKL and OKW are fine.
I didn’t expect to get the others but if they came through great. I have DVC points for the others. I just want a 2 bedroom anywhere on site. Actually prefer OKW or AKL.


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Last evening I saw 2BRs at DVC OKW, SSR for August Sept using 1 BR Willow Ridge TDI 150 Plat .
I think especially with an ongoing search you should be fine.

edit: also see with studio
 
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chriskre

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I have Marriott's Shadow Ridge Enclaves, platinum season, 2 bedroom lockoff. It's like Lakeshore Reserve because it has the big one bedroom and the lockoff side is actually pretty big and not just a small studio. That unit trades extremely well, both sides of the lockoff.

We haven't stayed at Crystal Shores lately. I don't know which resort I used to trade into Crystal Shores, but I am sure it had to be Willow Ridge because that is the only thing we owned in 2018, when we went, and it was January, which is what I wanted for the weather.

I wonder if it was easier to trade into back in 2018?


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I wonder if it was easier to trade into back in 2018?


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Here is the string about my trading experience into Crystal Shores in 2015. I have put it on almost every OGS I have set since then, with my Platinum Ocean Pointe weeks, just to see if it ever matches and it never has.
 

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Crystal Shores is probably the hardest resort to trade into through II. Kaui Lagoons may be second. First, deposits are somewhat rare and when they do show up they require a good week. A 2BR will usually work but we have seen in the past where our Orlando 2BR wasn't enough. It usually takes a pretty good week. A 1BR won't cut it. There are certainly exceptions to every rule. We got an exchange into a Gulf Front unit, but that was back during COVID in 2021.

I don't really even understand all the hype about Crystal Shores, kinda overrated IMO.
 

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Crystal Shores is probably the hardest resort to trade into through II. Kaui Lagoons may be second. First, deposits are somewhat rare and when they do show up they require a good week. A 2BR will usually work but we have seen in the past where our Orlando 2BR wasn't enough. It usually takes a pretty good week. A 1BR won't cut it. There are certainly exceptions to every rule. We got an exchange into a Gulf Front unit, but that was back during COVID in 2021.

I don't really even understand all the hype about Crystal Shores, kinda overrated IMO.

I would add Waikoloa Ocean Club to your list of most difficult Marriott trades in Interval. I think the only time I have ever seen it was during Covid when it really wasn't possible to travel there.
 

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Yes I can easily plan last minute.
We live in Miami.
But we do like to plan several trips to Disney so we usually do one big trip for a week and several 4-5 day long weekend trips.


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Nice! DVC show up last minute alot and its probably best during hurricane season. I am probably just scarred of having a trip cancelled due to the one. Probably a normal thing for Floridians though. Anyway as mentioned if i could upgrade my 2BR to a 3BR I probably would just so i have more trading power for the future. but right now I am content with my 2BR getting some decent things.
 

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I would add Waikoloa Ocean Club to your list of most difficult Marriott trades in Interval. I think the only time I have ever seen it was during Covid when it really wasn't possible to travel there.
Yeah, I guess there are a few more. Some others may be Costa Rica, the Bali properties and even Surfers Paradise.
 

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Last evening I saw 2BRs at DVC OKW, SSR for August Sept using 1 BR Willow Ridge TDI 150 Plat .
I think especially with an ongoing search you should be fine.

edit: also see with studio

Thanks for sharing.


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Crystal Shores is probably the hardest resort to trade into through II. Kaui Lagoons may be second. First, deposits are somewhat rare and when they do show up they require a good week. A 2BR will usually work but we have seen in the past where our Orlando 2BR wasn't enough. It usually takes a pretty good week. A 1BR won't cut it. There are certainly exceptions to every rule. We got an exchange into a Gulf Front unit, but that was back during COVID in 2021.

I don't really even understand all the hype about Crystal Shores, kinda overrated IMO.

I don’t think it’s so much the resort as it is being on Marco Island.
Anywhere on Marco will do but as far as timeshare it’s only Hilton, Marriott and Holiday Inn which is not on the beach.
For us southern Floridians Marco is one of our go to beaches just 2 hours from Miami.
The beach water is warmer and calmer than the Atlantic so easier for some of us retirees to get in and out of.


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Nice! DVC show up last minute alot and its probably best during hurricane season. I am probably just scarred of having a trip cancelled due to the one. Probably a normal thing for Floridians though. Anyway as mentioned if i could upgrade my 2BR to a 3BR I probably would just so i have more trading power for the future. but right now I am content with my 2BR getting some decent things.

Yeah that’s a pain but I have been stuck at Disney during a hurricane and it wasn’t a big deal.
They are far enough inland that it’s just a lot of rain and hail.
Once it passes just wait for the flooding to recede and things get back to normal quickly.
We didn’t lose power and had a refrigerator full so no problem there.
Just lost two park days.


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Here is the string about my trading experience into Crystal Shores in 2015. I have put it on almost every OGS I have set since then, with my Platinum Ocean Pointe weeks, just to see if it ever matches and it never has.

Interesting.
Thanks for sharing


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chriskre

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I would add Waikoloa Ocean Club to your list of most difficult Marriott trades in Interval. I think the only time I have ever seen it was during Covid when it really wasn't possible to travel there.

I might go back to Hawaii one more time but it would probably just be to Ko Olina and hopefully that would be doable if not I can do Aulanai with my DVC and HGVC at Hilton village


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Yeah, I guess there are a few more. Some others may be Costa Rica, the Bali properties and even Surfers Paradise.

Unfortunately I think my flying far away days are over.


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