Lock-off feature for 2 bedroom on deed?

[hsintang]

After a couple nights of studies, we decided to get a 2 bedroom platinum week at Willow Ridge. Since the lock-off feature is important, is it something we need to pay attention when buying one? Or you choose the lock off option when you book your week.
Thanks!!

 

[TheTimeTraveler]

After a couple nights of studies, we decided to get a 2 bedroom platinum week at Willow Ridge. Since the lock-off feature is important, is it something we need to pay attention when buying one? Or you choose the lock off option when you book your week.
Thanks!!

There are some Marriott resorts that have both Villas where some of the units are dedicated 2 Bedroom Villas, and some are 2 Bedroom Villas with Lock Off capability.

The best way to deal with resorts that have that option is to let them know you wish to reserve a Villa that is Lock Off capable when you call to make your reservations at your home resort. I also suggest you do this 12 months out (13 months out if you own more than one week) so that you are able to obtain the Villa type that you are seeking.




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[hsintang]

If lock off is an option based on availability, then it's not listed on the deed, then.
Did I state that correctly?

 

[TheTimeTraveler]

If lock off is an option based on availability, then it's not listed on the deed, then.
Did I state that correctly?

I don't believe it's listed on any deed but I can't say that with 100% certainty. Maybe Dioxide will chime in here when he wakes up on Saturday.

Just be sure if you are to buy a 2 Bedroom Villa that the resort in which you are buying does in fact offer Lockoff Villas (if that is your ultimate objective). Some resorts have some (like Grande Vista), some have none (like Oceana Palms), and some have all Lock Off Villas (like Beach Place).




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[dioxide45]

If lock off is an option based on availability, then it's not listed on the deed, then.
Did I state that correctly?

Correct. Lock off is not a deeded right. It is a right based on availability and the underlying reservation procedures. At resorts like Gande Vista, Habour Lake, and Willow Ridge. Locking off is based on availability. Not all unis are lock off capable. Other properties like Ocean Pointe and Beach Place Towers, all units are lock off capable. Though even at Ocean Pointe and Beach Place Towers, the lock off feature is not written in to the deed.

 

[hsintang]

Thank you all for the clarifications!

 

[davidvel]

Correct. Lock off is not a deeded right. It is a right based on availability and the underlying reservation procedures. At resorts like Gande Vista, Habour Lake, and Willow Ridge. Locking off is based on availability. Not all unis are lock off capable. Other properties like Ocean Pointe and Beach Place Towers, all units are lock off capable. Though even at Ocean Pointe and Beach Place Towers, the lock off feature is not written in to the deed.

Correct. Here's the language in MRD docs:

 

[bazzap]

Correct. Here's the language in MRD docs:

I am sure it is correct that locking off units is not a deeded right, but we have never had a problem doing so in all our years of ownership.

 

[dioxide45]

I am sure it is correct that locking off units is not a deeded right, but we have never had a problem doing so in all our years of ownership.

Same here. As long as you are on the horn at inventory release, one shouldn't have a problem locking off. It may be troublesome at peak times of the year, but we have never had an issue when reserving our non peak holiday weeks.

 

[SueDonJ]

I think at a certain point MVCI started including lock-off language in all of the docs regardless of the resort footprint or individual units. There's lock-off language in the docs I have for both Barony and SurfWatch; neither of those are configured in any way, shape or form with lock-off capability. The language does conform similarly to what's here, that it's not a deeded right with certain ownerships but instead subject to availability at the time of reservation.

 

[Quilter]

After a couple nights of studies, we decided to get a 2 bedroom platinum week at Willow Ridge. Since the lock-off feature is important, is it something we need to pay attention when buying one? Or you choose the lock off option when you book your week.
Thanks!!

After ONLY a couple nights of studies, and such a basic question, I suggest you do significantly more study.

 

[hsintang]

After ONLY a couple nights of studies, and such a basic question, I suggest you do significantly more study.

Haha, my studies include using all the resources including Tuggers who can provide me accurate answers and helpful suggestions. With less than one week studies and shopping, I was able to make an offer yesterday. I am not new to timeshare, but have limited experiences with II since I own mostly RCI resorts.

The reason I initiated this basic question was because two brokers gave two different answers...
Sorry if I wasted anyone's time here...

 

[Quilter]

Haha, my studies include using all the resources including Tuggers who can provide me accurate answers and helpful suggestions. With less than one week studies and shopping, I was able to make an offer yesterday. I am not new to timeshare, but have limited experiences with II since I own mostly RCI resorts.

The reason I initiated this basic question was because two brokers gave two different answers...
Sorry if I wasted anyone's time here...

Oh I wasn't trying to imply you were wasting anyone's time. My concern was completely for someone who was jumping into time sharing or even choosing a particular resort after research of only several days.

From your post I didn't catch you were a seasoned Tugger.

Didn't want to see anyone make a rash decision.

 

[pchung6]

I am just about to make my reservation for my 2017 usage online. I'm just not too sure which selection should I select to split to studio and 1 bed, and obtain 2 reservation numbers? myvacationclub web site is very confusing that I know even know which means what, and I'm afraid if I pick it wrong, and there is no recover.

 

[tschwa2]

Are you planning on using your weeks or depositing them in II. Do you want to have a single unit either as a dedicated unit or a lock off. Sometimes if you know you are using it yourself the dedicated unit is a more convenient configuration especially if you have small children. Sometimes you might want the additional privacy offered by the lock off if you are traveling with adult children or friends. If you are unsure you can reserve a lock off now and it is a little more trouble to get it locked off later sometimes but it is doable.

If you know you want two separate deposits for II, then reserve them as two sides separately from the get go. They can be for the same date or you can reserve the two sides for two different dates.

 

[dioxide45]

I am just about to make my reservation for my 2017 usage online. I'm just not too sure which selection should I select to split to studio and 1 bed, and obtain 2 reservation numbers? myvacationclub web site is very confusing that I know even know which means what, and I'm afraid if I pick it wrong, and there is no recover.

First, DON'T use the II Exchange - Marriott Deposit. If you pick that option in the first drop down in your screen shot, they will pick the week to deposit for you. Select II Exchange - Owner Deposit.

Then, you want to select Master Suite or Deluxe Guest Room. Once you are done with the first reservation, the other half will be available to be booked.

I think there is going back if you make a mistake and want to cancel when you use II Exchange - Owner Deposit. However, there is no going back from II Exchange - Marriott Deposit.

 

[pchung6]

I plan to deposit as 2 separate units to II, so I can exchange 2 different times. If I let Marriott to deposit, do I get a blended value of trade power for the deposit? I would not care the trade value too much for the studio since I'm going to only use it as flexexchange, under 59 days. For the 1 br, I guess I have to reserve the highest tdi week, right? Does the week open at 12:01 midnight?

 

[dioxide45]

I plan to deposit as 2 separate units to II, so I can exchange 2 different times. If I let Marriott to deposit, do I get a blended value of trade power for the deposit? I would not care the trade value too much for the studio since I'm going to only use it as flexexchange, under 59 days. For the 1 br, I guess I have to reserve the highest tdi week, right? Does the week open at 12:01 midnight?

Marriott deposits don't work like Starwood. You don't get a blended trade value for the deposit. If you are mainly going to search in instant exchange, trade power doesn't mean a lot. If you plan to place an ongoing search, trade power might be more important.

In either case, I would rather pick the highest TDI week that I can and deposit that with II. Check out the TDI for the region/resort that you own and try to reserve the highest TDI you can. It certainly can't hurt you.

 

[icydog]

Hey guys. My Marriott Willow Ridge weeks definitely are Lockoffs and it is spelled out in the deed. If you want to see a copy of it I will take a picture and post it.

When I go to reserve my units I'm given the option to use the whole villa or lock it off.

I actually returned a platinum two bedroom Willow non lock-off week I had won on eBay. It was listed as a lock-off unit but it was a regular two bedroom. The seller took it back.

 

[davidvel]

Hey guys. My Marriott Willow Ridge weeks definitely are Lockoffs and it is spelled out in the deed. If you want to see a copy of it I will take a picture and post it.

When I go to reserve my units I'm given the option to use the whole villa or lock it off.

I actually returned a platinum two bedroom Willow non lock-off week I had won on eBay. It was listed as a lock-off unit but it was a regular two bedroom. The seller took it back.

I would be interested in seeing the language. TIA!

 

[durrod]

Hey guys. My Marriott Willow Ridge weeks definitely are Lockoffs and it is spelled out in the deed. If you want to see a copy of it I will take a picture and post it.

When I go to reserve my units I'm given the option to use the whole villa or lock it off.

I actually returned a platinum two bedroom Willow non lock-off week I had won on eBay. It was listed as a lock-off unit but it was a regular two bedroom. The seller took it back.

I also have a Marriott willow ridge and can reserve it as a lock off, I just did it a week ago, and made two separate reservations to deposit at II. however I don't see anything in the deed that identify being a lock off. I just have the option at the time of making a reservation or deposit. My vacation club online info looks just like the picture posted in post # 14.

 

[dioxide45]

I would be interested in seeing the language. TIA!

Me too.....

 

[Saintsfanfl]

Hey guys. My Marriott Willow Ridge weeks definitely are Lockoffs and it is spelled out in the deed. If you want to see a copy of it I will take a picture and post it.

When I go to reserve my units I'm given the option to use the whole villa or lock it off.

I actually returned a platinum two bedroom Willow non lock-off week I had won on eBay. It was listed as a lock-off unit but it was a regular two bedroom. The seller took it back.

I am also curious on this deeded language but your explanation of it's meaning is false. Every WR owner is given this same option. It sounds like someone went and created their own deeded language for a transfer. In a floating unit reservation system the deeded unit makes no difference. Listings disclose the actual unit on the deed, which may or may not be a lock-off, but it makes zero difference. You are no more entitled to a lock-off or non lock-off than you are the stated unit number on the deed. The governing timeshare documents are what dictates the reservation system and those documents treat all 2BR owners as the same.

 

[samara64]

I just got a MWR deed transfer that just completed this morning. It says nothing on the deed from Marriott to original owner about lock off (I checked it yesterday after reading the post) as I was worried as I use it for II exchanges.

I called today OS and they said it is a look off unit. I called the resort and they stated that some units are lock off and other are not. So if you book early, you can choose the unit you need.