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Letter from Polynesian Isles Re: DRI

Term shouldn't be set in stone but more of a gudieline

I personally always push for an agreement that can be 5 years but gives the ability to terminate with or without cause after one year. SPM and DRI should agree to this each.

It is up to the Board to make sure any agreement - with new or existing management - has proper protection for both sides. In at least one case I'm aware of the management hopefuls - all 5 of them - wanted 3 to 5 year contracts. OK, fine. If you are doing the job and the price is right I'm all for a reasonable to long term deal. But all of them had to include a 90 day and out clause. No owner vote required. What that said was either side can at will terminate the contract with 90 day notice. Period. So if things go well the original 3-5 years comes and goes and the contract is great. But if things go bad - for management OR the Association - a simple 90 day notice and poof - deal over. Remember the owners are taking a risk as well - performance is a two way street.

3 of the 5 hopefuls said "Sure - if you don't want us or we don't want you and we get 90 days notice to see if we can work things out or part ways we're fine with that. We don't want to be where we're not wanted" The other two? They didn't want to hear it "A deal is a deal. The term is the term. Why would would we let you out?" Guess who made the cut to 3 contenders and guess what clause is in the deal we signed (and later extended for 10 - yes 10 years)? A professional company, sure of what they do isn't scared to leave performance as the ultimate measure once they are assured the Association/Board is acting in the best interest of the owners. Those who are in it for the money and want the contract leverage in place to keep them on regardless of performance demand strict start / end dates. It spoke volumes to me and I would never sign a management agreement without a meaningful out clause.
 
John, I like your style. I think that sums it up very well about multi year agreements.
 
It is up to the Board to make sure any agreement - with new or existing management - has proper protection for both sides.

Thanks for weighing in, John...The meeting was supposed to be at 10:30 this morning, and another private one for just the Board members at 1:30 this afternoon (I think those were the times). I'm curious how it all worked out, and hope that Goldman (or someone else in the know) will post here with information. I also hope they took the advice in your very helpful post--the real, extended one--above. I hope it's not too late...
 
rescheduled for may 15

Thanks for weighing in, John...The meeting was supposed to be at 10:30 this morning, and another private one for just the Board members at 1:30 this afternoon (I think those were the times). I'm curious how it all worked out, and hope that Goldman (or someone else in the know) will post here with information. I also hope they took the advice in your very helpful post--the real, extended one--above. I hope it's not too late...

Hi,

I've been told there was not a quorum this morning so business could not be done.
There were maybe 15 or so owners in attendance along with our board members and DRI with lawyers.
They rescheduled for May 15.
So now we wait.

Thelma
P.S. I agree with John's post. I have been encouraging board members to read what's been posted. I think with the next management contract, board members will go in with eyes wide open!!
 
Information for last/next Meeting

Here is one of three new emails I received today regarding the last HOA meeting, and its failure to reach a quorum. I'm posting it here for Poly I owners who are not on their email list, or other interested parties. I did "x" out personal info, since I'm not sure it is fair to the letter signers to put their personal info online:


Dear Fellow Owners:

The Board of Directors held a meeting on April 7th for the purpose of conducting a count of proxies to remove Diamond Resorts as the management company for Polynesian Isles Resort Condominium Association. Unfortunately, we did not get the required number of proxies needed for a quorum. As a result, we have 90 days in which to solicit additional owners in order to receive the required number needed. Therefore, we are making one last appeal to you, our owners.

By now, you have received information from both us and Diamond Resort. You are most likely confused and unsure what is the right way to vote. This letter is an attempt to answer questions which you might still have. We are not going to lie to you. We are volunteer owners who serve at your pleasure and who have nothing to gain from all of this.

Diamond has made many statements, which are simply NOT TRUE. We would like to address these.

Yes, Diamond was paying the costs associated with foreclosures. What they didn’t tell you was that rather than working with owners, who find themselves in a financial bind during these difficult times, and allowing them to work out a payment plan, Diamond is actively foreclosing immediately upon missed payments and acquiring the inventory for its own personal gain. In the last year, Diamond has gone from owning less than 5% of the inventory to now owning 17% and it could rise to 21% once all the units have been completed that are still being processed. This is Diamond’s way of gaining total and complete control of your association. Your resort is owned by the owners. Let’s keep it that way! Your Board has allocated a line item budgeted for foreclosures. It costs the HOA less than $350 to complete a foreclosure and only $50 for an owner to complete a “deed in lieu” rather than us foreclosing. We have been very successful in this effort in the past of recovering the units and reselling them to our existing owners. The money acquired from these resells is automatically rolled back into the budget so that we might pursue other foreclosures. It is in Diamond’s best interest NOT to work with our owners, but rather foreclosure on them, because it allows Diamond to acquire more inventory at a VERY LOW RATE. They, in turn, can resell the inventory at a HUGE profit. We do not want to become one of their CASH COWS! We want a company who is going to work with our owners and aggressively collect on those who are clearly unable to get caught up. This will not happen under Diamond!

By Diamond having control over our inventory, they have access to use it as they please. Currently owners are being denied use of their weeks because they are being told nothing is available – Diamond has used it! Is this what you want as an owner?

Currently Diamond is paid a flat management fee regardless of their performance. The new management company will be paid strictly on commission, which means if they don’t bring in maintenance fees and rentals, they don’t get paid. This makes a win-win solution for everyone! Diamond has repeatedly attempted to raise its management fees, plus add additional administrative fees. Most recently, they requested a 10% increase. It was not until Diamond learned that we were looking at an outside management company that they came back and tried to negotiate a lower fee. Who is to say that once they get the contract, they wouldn’t try this many more times over the course of a three year contract.

Unlike our owners, who are locked out of their units, when they don’t pay their maintenance fees, Diamond has been delinquent in paying their maintenance fees for 2008 and 2009, yet they have paid no late fees or interest and have continued to use the weeks without any penalties. We believe they should be treated as any other owner. Currently, we have a case of “the fox watching over the hen house”! With an outside company, they will be treated the same as any other owner.

Diamond boasts all the wonderful things they have provided your resort with – new pool furniture, new mattresses, new linens, etc. Rest assured, Diamond has given you NOTHING! These items were bought and paid for by you through your maintenance fees. These purchases were subsidized in NO WAY by Diamond.

Since Diamond took over, you have seen a continual rise in maintenance fees partially due to their so called “branded items”, which the resorts are being made to purchase. An example…rather than purchasing a good quality coffee pot which would equate to a “Honda” automobile, resorts are forced to purchase the more expensive “Cadillac” model coffee pot instead. Another example is all the advertising for Diamond in their expensive “check-in” packets. One packet costs almost $5.00 per check-in, averaging more than $500 per week when something much less expensive would suffice and the additional money could be put to better use. We need to take control away from Diamond and put it back in the hands of the owners. We are Polynesian Isles and if any branding is to be done, it should be branded as Polynesian Isles, not Diamond.

Along with other timeshare companies, sales are way down for Diamond. Money is not as free flowing from banks as it has been in the past. Make no mistake, Diamond is going to get what it needs to function, sadly it’s attempting to get it at the hands of the resort associations and its owners. I beg you, DO NOT FALL FOR THEIR SCARE TACTICS. These are unfounded. Unlike Diamond, who is only acting in its best interest, your Board always has, and always will, act in the best interest of the owners. We are Board members have nothing to gain other than our desire of restoring our resort to one of unity and beauty without causing undue burden to its owners.

Your Board has done its “due diligence” and contacted Board members at every association managed by SPM Resorts (who we would like to use as our management company) and have continually been told that over the past several years their maintenance fees have either gone down or remained constant, yet they were still able to continue with major refurbishments, with no additional costs to the owners.

Polynesian Isles Resort Condominium IV Association has already signed a contract with SPM Resorts to manage its 78 units and have already recognized a savings in insurance alone. It is seeing additional savings on a daily basis, which is further reassurance that they have made a wise choice in bringing in an outside, independent company to oversee the day-to-day operation of its units. We would like to do that same!

If you voted to either keep Diamond or “abstained”, it’s not too late to change your vote. We simply need you to resubmit your blue proxy, appointing Carlos Costa, and date it. Under Florida Statute, the Board will use the most current blue proxy for counting purposes. If you already submitted a proxy, you do not need to submit a new proxy, unless you are changing your vote. Currently your resort is operating as two separate properties, managed by two separate companies. Let’s bring the resort back together and restore its identity as a family-owned and operated property (you, its owners), not the Diamond corporation!

Please contact us via e-mail if you have any questions or concerns. If you would like to speak with us personally, please e-mail us your telephone number and we will call you back.



Carlos Costa –xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.com
Gary Emken – xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.com
Eddie Lofton –xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.com


Board of Directors for Poly I

Fax your blue proxy to Tom Durkee, CPA at (407) xxx.xxxx
 
Poly I Instructions for Owners...

Here is their letter letting Owners know what to do next:

POLYNESIAN ISLES RESORT CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION, INC.
NOTICE AND AGENDA OF UNIT WEEK OWNER RECONVENED
(NON-DEVELOPER) MEETING
TO ALL NON-DEVELOPER UNIT WEEK OWNERS:

On MAY 15, 2009, at 10:00 A.M., at 3045 POLYNESIAN ISLES BLVD. , KISSIMMEE , FL, a reconvened meeting of the non-developer unit week owners will be held for the purpose of considering the discharge of the current management company, Diamond Resorts. A “quorum” must be present, in person or by Proxy, at the meeting, in order for the business to be conducted. It is therefore VERY IMPORTANT that you either attend or provide a Proxy.

AGENDA
1. Certifying Quorum – Call to Order
2. Certifying Notice of Meeting
3. Vote on Discharge of Management Company
4. Adjournment.

If you already submitted a proxy for the April 7, 2009 meeting and do not wish to change your vote you do not need to submit a new proxy. If you submitted a proxy to Diamond and would like to change your vote please fax or mail a new proxy. Under Florida law the latest dated proxy counts. The Association has never received such an overwhelming amount of proxies. However, we need 50% to establish a quorum. We were very close so we need your proxy in order to terminate Diamond. Again, please be sure to either attend the Meeting in person or submit a Proxy. Thank you for your assistance in conducting the business of your Association.

Dated: April 13, 2009.

BY ORDER OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS
Carlos Costa

CARLOS COSTA, President
 
Here is their letter letting Owners know what to do next:


Never mind, I should have read the first letter before reading the last post. I can see the HOA/BOD's agenda a little more clearly now.
 
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Got my Proxy in the mail

yesterday, and I'm sending it on to Carlos today...I'm urging any Owners at Polynesian Isles I to read their letter from the HOA, and if they are as concerned as I am that the Board should get control of the resort from DRI (at this point, I really feel that Carlos and the Board has the Owners' best interests at heart, and we SHOULD have a new management company), then they should fill it out, saying "Yes" to discontinuing DRI, and sign and date and mail back in the envelope provided ASAP. The next meeting is on May 15, 2009.

As an Owner who cannot go to the meeting(s) in person, I appreciate all the time and effort the HOA is putting into this decision, and I really think all the drama is not good for the resort; it's time to move on to another Management Company that is more responsive to the Resort's and Owners' needs. Since I also own at Cypress Pointe, I've done some research and found that some of the same complaints Carlos and the Board has made about DRI are consistant with what went on over there, and life has been much easier for the Owners and the Resort itself--not to mention less expensive to maintain--since they moved on from DRI. I believe Carlos (his letter to Owners is posted a few posts above this one), and want to help.

Let's hope they get enough Owners to attend the next meeting and enough proxys in the mail (or emailed) to reach a quorum this time so Poly I can move on and fix the problems, so we as Owners can rest assured that our Resort will operate well and for the benefit of all of us...Thanks! :)
 
Information for last/next meeting.

Here is one of three new emails I received today regarding the last HOA meeting, and its failure to reach a quorum. I'm posting it here for Poly I owners who are not on their email list, or other interested parties. I did "x" out personal info, since I'm not sure it is fair to the letter signers to put their personal info online:

I've been an owner for about 14 years now. This was the first time I attended a meeting as it coincided with my annual Spring break with my kids. I've never been more sure that we need to get rid of Diamond. They treated us with total disdain and were in fact, quite rude.

They have failed to meet their obligation to provide proper accounting of expenditures and the providing of last years' budget in general. Their attorney was a pompous ass and the fact they had the whip hand was obvious.

I assessed what SPM management company was providing for Phase 4 and I like what I see. I only wish I owned in that phase as we in phase I are going to take it in the shorts unless we dump Diamond. I agree with Carlos that our management company should only be in the business of managing our money, making improvements to our complex, collecting unpaid dues from years past, foreclosing when necessary. A management company should not be involved in feathering their own nest at our expense by buying up units and renting them and not sharing the profits with us. A final point: I own in phase I but I was assigned to Phase 4 because phase 1 was booked up. I made my reservation last year (2008) while I was on Spring break. What's up with that?

It is imperative that you vote your proxy in favor of Carlos, our President. He has ceaselessly worked for our benefit with no other motive than our being treated with respect and our finances guarded with the fiduciary duty that should be required by a management company. Diamond has continually shown they are unwilling to listen to us, the owners. I have no other motive other than wanting to continue to own at Polynesian Isles. However, if Diamond is allowed to continue with their brand of management, I offer my timeshare for sale to anyone interested. I can be reached at 757-652-5448 and my email is jefftobin@cox.net. Please don't hesitate to contact me if you think I am being overly pessimistic about this matter.

Sincerely,

Jeff Tobin
 
I've been an owner for about 14 years now. This was the first time I attended a meeting as it coincided with my annual Spring break with my kids. I've never been more sure that we need to get rid of Diamond. They treated us with total disdain and were in fact, quite rude.

They have failed to meet their obligation to provide proper accounting of expenditures and the providing of last years' budget in general. Their attorney was a pompous ass and the fact they had the whip hand was obvious.

I assessed what SPM management company was providing for Phase 4 and I like what I see. I only wish I owned in that phase as we in phase I are going to take it in the shorts unless we dump Diamond. I agree with Carlos that our management company should only be in the business of managing our money, making improvements to our complex, collecting unpaid dues from years past, foreclosing when necessary. A management company should not be involved in feathering their own nest at our expense by buying up units and renting them and not sharing the profits with us. A final point: I own in phase I but I was assigned to Phase 4 because phase 1 was booked up. I made my reservation last year (2008) while I was on Spring break. What's up with that?

It is imperative that you vote your proxy in favor of Carlos, our President. He has ceaselessly worked for our benefit with no other motive than our being treated with respect and our finances guarded with the fiduciary duty that should be required by a management company. Diamond has continually shown they are unwilling to listen to us, the owners. I have no other motive other than wanting to continue to own at Polynesian Isles. However, if Diamond is allowed to continue with their brand of management, I offer my timeshare for sale to anyone interested. I can be reached at 757-652-5448 and my email is jefftobin@cox.net. Please don't hesitate to contact me if you think I am being overly pessimistic about this matter.

Sincerely,

Jeff Tobin


Wonderful enlightening post... thanks Jeff !!!

Thelma Sullivan
 
THANK you, Jeff

for your personal take on what is going on. I so much appreciate your jumping in here to help motivate Poly I Owners to send in their proxys to vote out DRI. I would like to do more to bring this issue to more Owners' attention in time for the vote~~does anyone have any contacts to help with that? Does anyone belong to any other Timeshare Online Groups that they can link to this thread to bring it to their attention? If an Owner at Poly I knows anyone personally that also owns there, make sure you notify them of the problems with the Resort and get them to send their proxy to Carlos. And if you can, post your ideas--or, like Jeff, your personal experiences--here, so this thread stays near the top to garner more exposure.

What brought me here to start this thread was the first mailing from Carlos that shocked and confused me, and I was searching for answers...With this new mailing that came yesterday, I'm hoping previously disinterested Owners will become curious as to what they should do. If they stumble into TUG during their search for answers, I hope this thread is visible enough to educate them. And helpful enough to motivate them to sign and return their proxy with a "yes" to discontinuing DRI. I love Polynesian Isles and want it to be the best it can be, to preserve the value of my investment and future vacations. Thank you to everyone who has been helpful to me, and willing to post here...keeping this information timely and visible during this important time of Poly I's "growing pains." :)
 
Other Timeshare Sites

for your personal take on what is going on. I so much appreciate your jumping in here to help motivate Poly I Owners to send in their proxys to vote out DRI. I would like to do more to bring this issue to more Owners' attention in time for the vote~~does anyone have any contacts to help with that? Does anyone belong to any other Timeshare Online Groups that they can link to this thread to bring it to their attention? If an Owner at Poly I knows anyone personally that also owns there, make sure you notify them of the problems with the Resort and get them to send their proxy to Carlos. And if you can, post your ideas--or, like Jeff, your personal experiences--here, so this thread stays near the top to garner more exposure.

What brought me here to start this thread was the first mailing from Carlos that shocked and confused me, and I was searching for answers...With this new mailing that came yesterday, I'm hoping previously disinterested Owners will become curious as to what they should do. If they stumble into TUG during their search for answers, I hope this thread is visible enough to educate them. And helpful enough to motivate them to sign and return their proxy with a "yes" to discontinuing DRI. I love Polynesian Isles and want it to be the best it can be, to preserve the value of my investment and future vacations. Thank you to everyone who has been helpful to me, and willing to post here...keeping this information timely and visible during this important time of Poly I's "growing pains." :)


Hi,

Here are Sites for posting about DRI.

Timeshare Forums with a Forum for Diamond Resorts International

http://www.timeshareforums.com/

RedWeek.com has a page for Timeshare Companies.

http://www.redweek.com/forums/threads?forum_id=5

And this link is about DRI reducing owner benefits

http://www.redweek.com/forums/messages?thread_id=14638

And Yahoo has 3 groups for DRI.

It was report on Timeshare Forums that DRI has a program that searches the internet and lets them know when something has been posted using key words like DRI, Diamond Resorts, Sunterra et........

Anything you post here WILL be read by someone at DRI. If they take offense, you might even get a personal E-mail from them letting you know they're watching you.

The Club Rules also state:

Upon the determination by the Club Operating Company that the
Member’s conduct constitutes conduct unbecoming to a Member of
THE ClubSM. The decision of the Club Operating Company shall be
final. Examples of unbecoming conduct may include, but shall not be
limited to, criminal behavior or threats and verbal abuse. A suspension
under this Section 3.10(d) shall normally be for a minimum of one
year. Certain serious acts may also result in termination of membership
with no option to reinstate. The Club Operating Company may also
recommend to the Affiliated Resort or Affiliated Collection in which the
suspended Member owns a Qualifying Interest that it take appropriate
disciplinary action against the suspended Member; or


Club Operating Company also reserves the right to suspend the membership
rights of a Member partially or completely for such other reasons as the
Club Operating Company, in its sole discretion, determines to be in the
best interests of THE ClubSM.

Except where required by law, Club Operating Company is under no
obligation to give any notice to the Member whose membership rights have
been suspended of the occurrence of the event causing such suspension or
that his membership rights have been suspended.

Walt
 
Thanks, Walt...

It was report on Timeshare Forums that DRI has a program that searches the internet and lets them know when something has been posted using key words like DRI, Diamond Resorts, Sunterra et........

Anything you post here WILL be read by someone at DRI. If they take offense, you might even get a personal E-mail from them letting you know they're watching you.

The Club Rules also state:

Upon the determination by the Club Operating Company that the
Member’s conduct constitutes conduct unbecoming to a Member of
THE ClubSM. The decision of the Club Operating Company shall be
final. Examples of unbecoming conduct may include, but shall not be
limited to, criminal behavior or threats and verbal abuse. A suspension
under this Section 3.10(d) shall normally be for a minimum of one
year. Certain serious acts may also result in termination of membership
with no option to reinstate. The Club Operating Company may also
recommend to the Affiliated Resort or Affiliated Collection in which the
suspended Member owns a Qualifying Interest that it take appropriate
disciplinary action against the suspended Member; or


Club Operating Company also reserves the right to suspend the membership
rights of a Member partially or completely for such other reasons as the
Club Operating Company, in its sole discretion, determines to be in the
best interests of THE ClubSM.

Except where required by law, Club Operating Company is under no
obligation to give any notice to the Member whose membership rights have
been suspended of the occurrence of the event causing such suspension or
that his membership rights have been suspended.

Walt

This means that they would bump my 17,500 yearly points, because I take issue with the way their management company runs one of my Resorts? That would be weird, because I LOVE The Club--I've always loved the way they work, and even my first post on this thread stated that if losing DRM at Poly I would lose me my points in The Club, I wouldn't be interested in letting them go...I would recommend The Club to anyone thinking about it, and HAVE recommended it to people I meet in person, as well as relatives and friends. If anyone connected with DRI reads this, please know that my issue is with DRM, NOT DRI...Thanks! :)
 
Unbelievable paranoia. Give me a break and the rest of the world a break from this bs puleez. They probably tap your phones too and check your house on google street view. If you want to change management companies change it. Just stop loading this board up with junk.
 
Well, You Better Believe It

Unbelievable paranoia. Give me a break and the rest of the world a break from this bs puleez. They probably tap your phones too and check your house on google street view. If you want to change management companies change it. Just stop loading this board up with junk.

This thread is too important to the owners of Polynesian Isles to get on another subject. But this is not just loading the board with junk.

Believe me, DRI is aware of your post. It happen to me. And I know of others that were told so too.

All you have to do is search on the Yahoo DRI owners web sites to find out more. There are 2 Web sites. One is more for the UK and the other is for the USA. Both have information about this. DRI even post on both sites.
 
Unbelievable paranoia. Give me a break and the rest of the world a break from this bs puleez. They probably tap your phones too and check your house on google street view. If you want to change management companies change it. Just stop loading this board up with junk.


I realize that you've had not problems with DRI and generally support DRI. That's fine as I respect all opinions and value insight from all points of view but, I agree with Walt. This is an extremely important decision for Poly Isle owners and one that will affect them whichever way they decide to go. Whether they continue forward with DRI or vote to change from DRI, it's extremely important for owners to flesh out all opinions. This is exactly what TUG is all about.

If any of the resorts I own wanted to change management companie (and I do mean any, not just my DRI owned resorts), I would want and appreciate frank discussion on a forums such as TUG.
 
This means that they would bump my 17,500 yearly points, because I take issue with the way their management company runs one of my Resorts? That would be weird, because I LOVE The Club--I've always loved the way they work, and even my first post on this thread stated that if losing DRM at Poly I would lose me my points in The Club, I wouldn't be interested in letting them go...I would recommend The Club to anyone thinking about it, and HAVE recommended it to people I meet in person, as well as relatives and friends. If anyone connected with DRI reads this, please know that my issue is with DRM, NOT DRI...Thanks! :)

So far I haven't known DRI to terminate or suspend an account just because of a difference of opinion. I have heard of them (but can't prove) suspending accounts if you're less than polite with any DRI rep (verbally abusive). I actually support this rule as I don't believe that anyone shoud ever be yelled at, called names or have to hear vulgar language. I am always aware that the person I'm talking with only answered the phone but didn't set the pollicy. There is no use in treating them with disprespect. For that matter, I wouldn't talk disrespectfully to any DRI principle as I just don't believe that's the way to get things done.

I have often taken issue with some of DRI's policy's and have NEVER had my account suspended nor has it ever been hinted at. DRI is not in practice of suspending accounts of those that simply disagree with them as far as I've seen.

On the other hand, I am aware of a couple of owners who have stated their accounts have been suspended due to rental activity deemed to be a cottage industry or strictly for profit. These owners have been doing a rather large rental business (by their own admission) and not the owners that maybe rent a few of their points every year to family or friends. I have never heard of an owner renting a few thousand points out to family or friends having a problem with DRI or even getting any sort of warning. It's only been those renting points in the hundreds of thousands of points. Again, I support this policy as those that rent tend to take the best units producing the highest rentals, which reduces the number of prime units in prime demand seasons for those of use that actually want to vacation there using THE Club.

Yes I am aware that DRI monitors forums but, I'm also not paranoid enough to think they are trying to single out owners to make examples of. Is it really a bad thing for a company to read what's written about it? If you ran a company, isn't that what you would do to see how owners felt and make improvements?

I don't believe you have to worry about your account being suspended or terminated just because you have a difference of opinion with how your resort is managed. If DRI did that, I suspect my account would have been suspended long ago. For all that DRI might or might not be, they are tolerant of a difference of opinion with regards to this rule.
 
This thread is too important to the owners of Polynesian Isles to get on another subject. But this is not just loading the board with junk.

Believe me, DRI is aware of your post. It happen to me. And I know of others that were told so too.

All you have to do is search on the Yahoo DRI owners web sites to find out more. There are 2 Web sites. One is more for the UK and the other is for the USA. Both have information about this. DRI even post on both sites.

So, exactly who has been kicked out of DRI because of their post? Where is your proof. What happened to you, exactly?

DRI posts on public web sites of DRI owners. HORRIBLE! OMG! They have broken their own code of evil secrecy. They should be monitoring all statements against them without being discovered. That way they can exact their punishment more deviously. Wait, maybe they posted intentionally to throw everyone off their real goal. What could it be?

Someone is trying to inject fear into the discussion. Someone is trying to create and evil enemy in DRI. What could the purpose of that be? Maybe that person is really using google to check all the posts on everyone on this board. Gee, I just posted that there is a fear monger on the board, an anti-DRI agent. That must be true. Perhaps this post will get quoted all over the internet. Maybe that person secretly works for another timeshare company. I don't know. I am not saying it is true - but can you refute it.

I better end this post now - I feel as though my very keystrokes are being monitored by forces that are working against me. Yes! Yes! they are monitoring my keystrokes OMG! Can anyone here refute that!

I am not a supporter of DRI. I am a timeshare owner and user. I could care less about DRI or any other company. I enjoy and am interested in logical, factual ,informative presentations on any topic.
 
Diamond Letter - Rec'd Today

Got this email late this afternoon.

A MESSAGE TO OUR FRIENDS AT POLY I
April 17, 2009


Dear Polynesian Isles I Owner:

Much has been written and said in recent weeks about Diamond Resorts’ management of your Resort. We understand that you are probably weary of this – so are we. We ask for your indulgence and attention to one more message.

You have clearly indicated by your participation and your votes that you want a change in the management of Poly I. We hear you. We certainly hoped for a different result and continue to believe we are your best choice for management, but you’ve made your intentions clear.

Your Board continues to seek the additional votes and proxies to meet the quorum requirements imposed by Florida law as it has a right to do, but we want you to know that we are not continuing this fight.

Instead, we have today advised your Board in writing that we are assenting to the termination of our management of Poly I regardless of whether the additional votes or proxies are received.

As you know, under our contract with the Poly Master Association, we will continue to manage the common areas of the Resort on behalf of all owners, including the recreational facilities and the front desk. We pledge to continue to operate those portions of the Resort in the best interests of all owners of the Resort and to work with Southern Property Management (“SPM”) to provide you the trouble-free vacations you deserve. If you have any issues or concerns, please let us know.

Our affiliate, MMG Development Corp., the successor developer of Poly I, is a substantial owner of Poly I units – nearly 17% of the total. MMG paid maintenance fees of $445,563.89 for 2008 and $270,629.39 to date in 2009. Despite what you’ve been told, these payments included interest and late charges. MMG’s payment covers a substantial portion of your expenses.

The decisions of your Board affect MMG the same way they affect you. And MMG is gravely concerned. Like any other owner, its resources are not unlimited. If assessments were to substantially increase, MMG will, like all owners, have to consider whether continued payments make economic sense. The level of delinquencies, already high, is certain to increase.

So the question remains for all owners: under new management, how much of an increase in assessments are we looking at? Your Board President tells you he’s confirmed that, at resorts managed by SPM over the past several years, assessments have gone down or remain constant, and “major refurbishments” continue, all with “no additional costs to the owners.”

But we cannot let that statement go unchallenged. Because we know that your Board’s 2009 budget does not, in fact, contemplate cos t increases that we think are unavoidable, we are concerned that the Association’s solvency is at risk. Given our continued involvement with the Resort, we have a fiduciary obligation to tell you so.

Please consider the following:

Under the much-criticized Internal Recovery Agreement MMG had with Poly I, all delinquent owner accounts were paid in full by MMG. That agreement is being terminated along with our Management Agreement. Poly I’s delinquencies are expected to be over $430,000.00 in 2009; an amount MMG – not the other owners - has paid up to this point. Your 2009 budget assumes that money will be paid in full. Now, it will not. There is no fund or provision to apply to cover those amounts now that MMG’s funds are not available. That money has to come from somewhere. Unless your Board has another plan we have not seen, that money will have to come from you in the form of increased as sessments or the Association will become insolvent.
Diamond employs a national firm to do all of its foreclosures throughout the U.S. Based on the size of our account, the cost of the firm’s services was about $1,000.00 for uncontested foreclosures and about $1,500.00 for contested foreclosures. Of course, the Association paid none of these costs under the Internal Recovery Agreement – MMG did. SPM has no similar program as far as we know. So the Association will now bear all of the costs. Your Board President tells you that foreclosures will cost only $350.00. With all due respect, and based on our own vast experience, that statement is simply unbelievable. But make no mistake: the 2009 budget has no provision for any foreclosure costs, because MMG paid all of those costs up to this point. Not anymore. That money also has to come from somewhere. Again, it will have to come from you in the form of increased assessments unless the Association can find the funds elsewhere.
Under our management contract, our management fee was a flat fee per unit week. We did, indeed, ask to modify the contract to an increase that fee after maintaining it at the same level for seven years. Your Board rejected that proposed increase, so we continued to charge the old fee set in our contract and agreed to do so for three more years. Your 2009 budget addresses those fees. SPM charges a variable fee. To the extent that results in higher management fees, the funds to pay it have to come from somewhere. Again, you should expect to pay the excess. The same is true of any program provided by Diamond that will now be provided by SPM or someone else: if the cost is greater, the 2009 budget most likely doesn’t provide for it.
In a few months, SPM and your Board will propose your budget for 2010. We suggest you pay close attention to the numbers – we certainly will.

We wish you all the best. The Diamond Resorts Management Team
 
Got this too...

Much has been written and said in recent weeks about Diamond Resorts’ management of your Resort. We understand that you are probably weary of this – so are we. We ask for your indulgence and attention to one more message.

And really, I don't quite know what to make of it...Hopefully someone from Poly I's HOA will respond here to let us know what is going on...
 
Phase IV reservations

Has anyone who owns a Phase IV unit been able to make a reservation for 2010? I've now called 4 times and I keep hearing that I should have a confirmation soon, yet it's now been 18 days since the first phone call and no confirmation.
 
I'm going to jump in here and make a statement. Anyone who has read my posts knows I am not going to support everything DRI in knee jerk fashion. In fact, in the past some of my posts have ticked off DRI management enough to elicit a personal responce.

However, there is a basis for comparison of resorts managed by DRI and one the jettisoned DRI over 10 years ago. The resort I'm refering to would be Jockey Club in Las Vegas. Now as far as I know, the owners at JC are extremely happy with the management team they have now and there were not happy with DRI. However, a member of Timeshareforums.com posted current photo's of a Jockey Club unit that might be of interest. While it's not a bad looking unit and it's well maintained, IMHO, it's not up to the standards of current resorts being built or, older resorts being renovated. In the respect of maintaining AND improving/renovating units, I feel DRI has done a superior job.

While I'm not always happy with some of the things DRI does and will voice my opinion on those matters, I can't say that DRI doesn't maitain and keep their resorts up to date. Other management companies and HOa/BOD's can't say as much.

So, for what it's worth, here's the link to pictures of a state of a resorts units that evicted DRI management well over 10 years ago. I don't know if it makes a difference to owners of Poly 1 but, it's something to keep in mind. Constantly update/renovate or just potentially maintain what you have today and hope it's nice enough for the future.
http://www.timeshareforums.com/forums/general-timeshare-discussions/89681-jockey-club-pics.html
 
Got this email late this afternoon.


Your Board continues to seek the additional votes and proxies to meet the quorum requirements imposed by Florida law as it has a right to do, but we want you to know that we are not continuing this fight.

I can perfectly understand why DRI is giving in to the termination of their contract. I think that Florida law prohibits the developer from voting so their 17% does not count at all for proxies. All I can say is that I would not like to be SPM.

However, in the long run, the deliquencies should not be that big of an issue if SPM develops a method to dispose of the weeks by recouping the costs of foreclosure. IN the short run, I would think it is guaranteed that their will be increased costs not covered by the budget.

I can also add that I was told that VRI, a competing management company, did not want anything to do with this situation due to the bad situation that this was going to cause the HOA. Think about that, VRI, a company that regularly went after Sunterra contracts, stayed out of this.
 
I can perfectly understand why DRI is giving in to the termination of their contract. I think that Florida law prohibits the developer from voting so their 17% does not count at all for proxies. All I can say is that I would not like to be SPM.
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Nothing in Fl law prohibits Diamond from offering their proxies toward a quorum or voting but they may be prohibited from using their votes to take control of the Board. Without the often large quantity of votes held by developers (or their successors) many resorts could not make a quorum when required.
 
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