comicbookman
TUG Member
In Vegas at grand desert. Was so shocked to be asked to do a sales presentation (I have been on the no fly list for years). That I decided to take the $100 and breakfast for all 5 of us (only wife and I had to attend bullwhip session). Breakfast was decent, my brother, his girlfriend and my daughter ate and left. We attended a group presentation that was low sales key and reasonably informative, during which we turned on a couple sitting next to us to tug.
Our sales weasel bailed quickly after pulling our account and we got the manager almost from the start. She was pushing CWA hard. Latest thing is you can peel off parts of a developer bought CWA contract and turn it in via ovation. Kept going on and on how wonderful this would be for the kids if we die. I explained that they are only owners on one small contract with very low MF and I doubted they would want the rest. She kept making offers and came down really far for a developer buy and we had to repeat many times no new debt.
Finally she got the message and on the way to gifting our original sales weasel tried to tell me that just because the deed that the kids are on is in our account that they would still be responsible for MF on the other contracts (which they are not on the deeds) if we died. I explained that that is not the way it works if the kids don't accept their inheritance of the other contracts. I said yes the estate is on the hook, but not the kids. He started arguing with me and spouting even more scare tactics claiming Wyndham rules allow this. I told him probate handled this sort of thing, not Wyndham.
I wonder how many who don't know how things work this line of lies has convinced to "upgrade". Made me angry, especially as I am an attorney (which I pointed out to them) and they are dispensing false legal advice, without a license even. I gave them really bad marks on the survey at gifting. I realize it was my own damn fault for going, but this was serious bull.
I did learn one thing new from the group presentation. 4 Weeks ago, Wyndham began a program that actually allows you to trade in select non-Wyndham timeshares toward a Wyndham purchase. Not a variation on PIC, actually taking the foreign timeshare in trade, just like at a car dealer. Did not get any details, as I don't have any non-Wyndham TS.
Our sales weasel bailed quickly after pulling our account and we got the manager almost from the start. She was pushing CWA hard. Latest thing is you can peel off parts of a developer bought CWA contract and turn it in via ovation. Kept going on and on how wonderful this would be for the kids if we die. I explained that they are only owners on one small contract with very low MF and I doubted they would want the rest. She kept making offers and came down really far for a developer buy and we had to repeat many times no new debt.
Finally she got the message and on the way to gifting our original sales weasel tried to tell me that just because the deed that the kids are on is in our account that they would still be responsible for MF on the other contracts (which they are not on the deeds) if we died. I explained that that is not the way it works if the kids don't accept their inheritance of the other contracts. I said yes the estate is on the hook, but not the kids. He started arguing with me and spouting even more scare tactics claiming Wyndham rules allow this. I told him probate handled this sort of thing, not Wyndham.
I wonder how many who don't know how things work this line of lies has convinced to "upgrade". Made me angry, especially as I am an attorney (which I pointed out to them) and they are dispensing false legal advice, without a license even. I gave them really bad marks on the survey at gifting. I realize it was my own damn fault for going, but this was serious bull.
I did learn one thing new from the group presentation. 4 Weeks ago, Wyndham began a program that actually allows you to trade in select non-Wyndham timeshares toward a Wyndham purchase. Not a variation on PIC, actually taking the foreign timeshare in trade, just like at a car dealer. Did not get any details, as I don't have any non-Wyndham TS.
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