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My husband & I got suckered into buying a 1-BR (our deeded wk is 1st wk of May) in the grandview in Vegas when we were there for our honeymoon-- paid a ton of $ for it. We're stilling waiting for our RCI card but from what I've been reading everywhere, I think we've made the worst decision ever! From overpaying to possibly having a very low trading power...

We wanted to go somewhere this February-- Carribean or Hawaii but I don't know when the card is coming and I don't even know if there are any units left. It's way too late to rescind and I'm worried we wasted our money. How can we ever get decent trades with what we've got? Am I just overeacting?! :confused:
 

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It sounds as if you already know the answers to your questions----unfortunately they aren't very favorable.

As far as exchanging, your best results will be with long term preparation, i.e. months ahead of check-in. Unless you get LUCKY within flexchange time (within 59 days.)

Hang around here. While you bought something less than you thought at the time----my advice is to make the most of your timeshare.

Pat
 

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Are you past the recission period? Look in your papers cause if not you need to follow directions exactly and immediately.
 

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Probably correct Pat, so learning to make the best is good advice.

There maybe some last minute Caribbean or even Hawaii weeks show up, d/t the economy demand maybe down, but then you'll have to deal with airfare.
 

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You Are In Good Company -- No Head Kicking Needed.

Shux, plenty of TUG folks paid full freight for their 1st timeshare(s) by buying direct from timeshare companies. It happens. It's not all bad -- not even mostly bad, in that timeshare vacationing beats the sox off hotels & motels any way you shake it.

If you catch on to ways of using your full-freight timeshare skillfully & learn to have fun with it, you might even find yourselves 1 day joining the ranks of the More Than One Timeshare people. If you do that, you can buy resale next time & save thousands. It's not a rare occurrence.

Click here for some recent TUG-BBS discussion about buying "new" timeshares from timeshare companies.

Meanwhile, don't let buyer regret wrap you around the axle so bad that you fall for some of the compound layers of timeshare scam that are out there just waiting to zap timeshare buyers who've already been zapped.

Good luck. And welcome to TUG.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​
 
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A trade to Hawaii is probably doable if you try Tradingplaces.com. Trading Places doesn't require a paid membership and they manage a few properties in Hawaii. Give them a call or check their availability on line for when you want to go. Good Luck.
 

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Still kickin...

Listen to these people...they are very wise! We're still trying to figure out how to make the best of a timeshare we bought 'full-freight' 10 years ago!

Don't give anybody money to sell your timeshare, do try to find a way to use/exchange your timeshare now, and don't feel like you're the only one out there that this happened to! (here's a little of our story). :hi:
 

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Have you set up a user name and password on RCI.com?

We waited about 1 month after our resale purchase and signed up for a user name and password online. About a week after signing up, our week showed up in our on-line account and we started looking for trades. It took about another month before we received the RCI package and card.

Hopefully if you signup on-line, you'll get to start looking at trades before you receive the package.

Wendy
 

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You may be in luck because with the economy the way it is, people may not be traveling like they have in the past. I've got my fingers crossed for you.

Sue
 

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Stick around and keep learning. Learn how to use your new timeshare to your best advantage. Stop beating yourself up...most of us have done it too. You'll learn a lot here and the folks on here are so great about answering questions, so ask away!
 

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A trade to Hawaii is probably doable if you try Tradingplaces.com. Trading Places doesn't require a paid membership and they manage a few properties in Hawaii. Give them a call or check their availability on line for when you want to go. Good Luck.
I was also going to recommend Trading Places as a good RCI alternative for you to use.
They tend to have an ample supple of Hawaii.

For the Caribbean - RCI used to have plenty of inventory but it is apparently 'missing' now :wall: - you might be able to get an exchange into the Morritt's Tortuga if you are flexible for winter 2010.

Good luck!
 

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I'm confused...

....an ample supple of Hawaii or the Caribbean...
...you might be able to get an exchange into the Morritt's Tortuga if you are flexible for winter 2010.

I intend no disrespect (nor do I wish to seem insensitive) in asking this question, but the above puzzles me enough to ask anyhow.....

Is an early May week in grossly overbuilt and oversupplied Las Vegas really likely to ever "pull" ANYTHING in Hawaii or the Carribbean?

It would seem to me (and perhaps I'm just plain mistaken) that such a Las Vegas week has very little trading power for much of anything, least of all Hawaii or the Caribbean. :shrug:
 
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II has all islands in Hawaii cosistantly in Flexchange. Can get it with any (even late deposited dogs)deposit.
 

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With some of the independents you can check inventory without a deposit. Try (previously recommended) Trading Places, Grand Pacific Exchange (has had a few HI lately), HTSE (I think that's it-"H" standing for Hawaii).

The best advise is to not beat yourself up-after all, without the developers--we wouldn't have timeshares...The only people who really need to kick themselves are those who never use their units. Yes, you could have gotten it cheaper-so what. Learn to use it and enjoy. Its your vacation, make the most of it.

ps-If an exchange doesn't come thru this time-think about renting on Redweek or another rental site. With the airfares these days, you can rent a great unit at a great price. Then start looking to the future for those exchanges.
 

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Apples and Oranges....

II has all islands in Hawaii cosistantly in Flexchange. Can get it with any (even late deposited dogs)deposit.

OP actually specified and inquired with pending RCI membership (....not II).
 

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WOW.... there really is a lot for us to learn. I actually got my id number & was able to sign-up online but i need to pay my maintenance fee before i can deposit my week & start searching but bec we recently purchased, nobody can seem to help me (i was on the phone with rci for forever earlier & was promised a callback tomorrow). But i did find out that rci is offering extra vacations for the price of exchanging (from $169-$200 plus) so we might just end up going to Cancun through that... start maximizing this purchase of ours. Thanks again.
 

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I intend no disrespect (nor do I wish to seem insensitive) in asking this question, but the above puzzles me enough to ask anyhow.....

Is an early May week in grossly overbuilt and oversupplied Las Vegas really likely to ever "pull" ANYTHING in Hawaii or the Carribbean?

It would seem to me (and perhaps I'm just plain mistaken) that such a Las Vegas week has very little trading power for much of anything, least of all Hawaii or the Caribbean. :shrug:


I own 4 weeks in Vegas. Yes, Vegas weeks will pull Hawaii and the Caribbean. The weeks we own range from the Suite's at Polo Towers to Marriott's Grand Chateau. All four of our weeks are on the strip and that could make them slightly stronger exchangers but, I don't really know that to be a fact. Also, three of our four weeks exchange through I.I. and from what I've seen results between RCI and II will vary. I won't get into the politics of my preferences between the two exchange companies.

Presently, I have an exchange into Hawaii using one of our Vegas resorts but, it's an internal exchange through HGVC and it was made at the furthest point out I could arrange the exchange with Hilton which is 9 monhts in advance. It's not really a good comparison for the OP.

As to the original question. At this point, IMO at least, you best option may be to hope for a last minute exchange. I'm not sure about RCI but with I.I., everything opens up at the less than 59 days before travel mark. Allmost all exchange restrictions are taken off and trading power for almost every resort is equal. It then becomes first come first served. Someone correct but I believe RCI calls this Last Call where in I.I. it's called the Flexchange period.

Vegas is overbuilt IMO. RCI has two resorts on the strip with Hilton's Flamingo and LV Strip. Although one could argue that HGVC LV Strip is to far north to be considered on the strip. RCI also has Wyndham's Grand Desert, which is maybe a block and a half off the strip. Then there is every other resort in RCI's book which is likely to be closer than Grandview.

However, Grandview has a very nice off strip location and the advantages of being away from all the madness of the LV Strip (some people actually LIKE to be away from all the lights, noise and action) and, they're right next to a great locals casino, Southpoint. In some ways it has the best of both worlds and I've seen many posts from people on these forums that enjoy and request Grandview because of those factors.

IMO, your best bet for obtaining Hawaii or Aruba would be to start you search as far out as possible and keep your fingers crossed. Febuary is high time for both of those locations and could be a tough trade for even the strongest exchange unit. If you're not overly particular about the resort or unit size (you might have to accept a studio unit), I feel it is possible. It just won't be easy.

With timeshare, FLEXABILITY is the key. That's something the salesmen never tell you. They ALL tell you their resort is number one and that wherever your standing is the most demanded vacation destination within that exchange company and that their resort is the most requested for that destination (sound famliar yet?). What you'll learn here is how to make your timeshare work. It's not going to be what the salesman told you but, timeshare DOES work. Most of us on these forums own multiple weeks. We own 7 weeks and hate to travel any other way with the exception of a good cruise vacation.

May is a decent time to be in Vegas. It's getting warm and is great pool weather but, I don't think it's usually hit the fry-an-egg-on-the-dashboard-of-your-car temperatures yet. We usually travel to Vegas in March when it's still a little chilly for pool weather. So you have a decent week at least and, in an overbuilt area having a decent week at a good resort means everything. The only thing you may be lacking is location and location is always a matter of opinion.

So, to sum up, the Caribbean or Hawaii may be a possiblity if you can wait until the last minute (less than 2 months) to book and are not particular (for instance St. Thomas or St. Martin rather than Aruba) and are not particular about the size of your unit. Remember, even though you may be getting a smaller unit (or maybe not), you are trading a overbuilt location in a moderate season to a high demand location in a high demand season. Even a one bedroom unit for a studio unit might be considered a good exchange with such little notice.

Keep reading and don't worry about what you paid for your unit. Many of us on these forums bought our first unit through the developer. Most found they loved timeshare vacations and learned how to buy units on the resale market and have built the remainder of their ownership on the cheap that way. IMO, timesharing is one of the very best ways to vacation and I'd hate to ever give it up.

FWIW, I'm typing this from our unit at Marriott's Ocean Pointe while looking out a picture window at the Atlantic ocean. :D It's a resort we first traveled to using one of our Vegas units as an exchange. For that matter, even though we purchased here back in 2001, we obtained this very week trading our Suite's at Polo Towers unit in Las Vegas for this unit.
 

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Since you bought at a Vacation Village property, I assume you received an annual developer bonus week. These can be useful for last minute weeks for yourself and friends, if last minute won't work for you. Although the certificate suggests that only one week is available per year, I have sometimes used several as RCI doesn't seem to care. After all, they are from excess inventory.
These bonus weeks helped me to feel better about our first full price purchase and since that purchase we have bought and sold several on the resale market, making our first purchase feel less like a catastrophe.
 
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