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Is there a way to use a HGVC online account prior to purchase?

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Looking into the resale market, but still a bit reluctant to fully commit to the program without trying it out first. Is there a sandbox environment somewhere to check real time inventory?
 

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In case this is not possible and you would like to do your good deed for the day, what's the soonest you see inventory for a full week (studio/1bed) for these:
-Parc Soleil
-Elara
-Vilamoura, a Hilton Grand Vacations Club
-Borgo alle Vigne, a Hilton Grand Vacations Club
-New York (all resorts)
-Chicago Magnificent Mile, a Hilton Grand Vacations Club
-DC (all resorts)
 

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Go to a presentation and purchase a VIP package
 
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In case this is not possible and you would like to do your good deed for the day, what's the soonest you see inventory for a full week (studio/1bed) for these:
-Parc Soleil
-Elara
-Vilamoura, a Hilton Grand Vacations Club
-Borgo alle Vigne, a Hilton Grand Vacations Club
-New York (all resorts)
-Chicago Magnificent Mile, a Hilton Grand Vacations Club
-DC (all resorts)
So...HGVC allows you to make a number of different types of reservations. Home Week reservations, for a full week (usually Sat-Sat) in the resort, unit, and season you own can be made at 12 months.

Club Season reservations that you can make in other HGVC locations besides the one you own can (with a few exceptions) be made at 276 days before the check-out date. There is almost always availability in Orlando and Las Vegas but booking Club Reservations at the European locations can be very difficult.

NY and DC are a special case because the resorts are part of a special subset of HGVC called by Hilton Club (bHC) and have different booking rules. The bHC resorts in these locations have "Home Resort Priority" windows in addition to the "Home Week Priority" window with a long period of time (typically 90 to 276 days in advance) during which resort owners and no one else can book short stays. In addition, only owners can make "Open Season" reservations (cash stays) and there is usually an owners lounge.
 

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In case this is not possible and you would like to do your good deed for the day, what's the soonest you see inventory for a full week (studio/1bed) for these:
-Parc Soleil
-Elara
-Vilamoura, a Hilton Grand Vacations Club
-Borgo alle Vigne, a Hilton Grand Vacations Club
-New York (all resorts)
-Chicago Magnificent Mile, a Hilton Grand Vacations Club
-DC (all resorts)
Easier to visualize on a web browser vs a phone, but here is a start…
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Not happening.
A VIP package is a specific package that doesn't require you to commit to a full developer purchase. Though I also understand that the inventory is different, so it may not help you actually verify available inventory.
 

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In case this is not possible and you would like to do your good deed for the day, what's the soonest you see inventory for a full week (studio/1bed) for these:
-Parc Soleil
-Elara
-Vilamoura, a Hilton Grand Vacations Club
-Borgo alle Vigne, a Hilton Grand Vacations Club
-New York (all resorts)
-Chicago Magnificent Mile, a Hilton Grand Vacations Club
-DC (all resorts)

Well, for New York, I see sporadic availability in the near term, but do see a full week available at Quin as soon as tomorrow. Then one at W. 57th starting next Thursday. But I'd venture to say that availability based on now is not the way to use these. Booking further in advance is a better use.

Cheers.
 

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A VIP package is a specific package that doesn't require you to commit to a full developer purchase. Though I also understand that the inventory is different, so it may not help you actually verify available inventory.
You also cannot get on the website with a VIP package, it's just a phonecall to a rep - so I don't think it'd help the OP at all.
 

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Not happening.
I found it useful to do the $99-200, 2–3-night stay deal at the Elara and then we ended up purchasing the VIP for $1,600 (ish). Used that for a week at Kohala in a 2-bedroom. It was two presentations, but they can show you how the system works and some useful information. YMMV. Not sure I'd recommend that approach, but it allowed us to confirm HGVC was nice and a level we would like to stay at. Renting can do the same thing without the Sale Presentations (the half-truths and lies are an issue and you need to educate yourself before you go).

It seems like maybe you should try some place like RedWeek, SFX, TUG/Rentals, afvclub.com and some other places to see what's out there without owning.

We jumped in and bought resale Marbrisa and Kohala (2-bedroom, platinum weeks). If you can afford $2,000-$6,000 and say $2,000 a year for a week in a 2 bedroom that you should be able to get 2 weeks in a 1 bedroom with, this may not be a bad experiment. Please don't buy retail without a good and verified reason.

I would trust the TUG community to recommend things, but its hard to know what you want, what you need, and how those will change over time. I would study this timeshare game before buying and again renting is not a bad idea.

The intent is low stress, taking more vacations, taking better vacations, and enjoying life. The goal is not to collect timeshares… (but I must admit I want to)..



Safe Travels.
 

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The intent is low stress, taking more vacations, taking better vacations, and enjoying life. The goal is not to collect timeshares… (but I must admit I want to)..
I know what you mean. I've done 4 weeks this year already, with 5 more planned (and one of the weeks is 2 units). Next year I have 5 planned / scheduled with 1 in the "see if there's a good Extra Vacation deal" that I'm 90% sure there will be.

Granted, I'm spending more than $2,000 for all that, but compared to the Hotel or AirBnB costs it's nothing.
 

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I know what you mean. I've done 4 weeks this year already, with 5 more planned (and one of the weeks is 2 units). Next year I have 5 planned / scheduled with 1 in the "see if there's a good Extra Vacation deal" that I'm 90% sure there will be.

Granted, I'm spending more than $2,000 for all that, but compared to the Hotel or AirBnB costs it's nothing.

I have made a reasonably complex spreadsheet (well, set of spreadsheets :)) to track our travels. One monitors all the details including all the logistics, confirmation numbers and reminders to book/secure parking. The second looks at things on an instrumented calendar to look at each day.

From the latter, I see that we have a total (so far) of 38 trips booked in 2024 for 117 nights away from home. This includes overnight driving trips for concerts as well as trips with flights. This is a combination of timeshare, hotel (primarily Hyatt as we have points and status, some Hilton), an extended rental through friends, etc.

So, I second the notion of finding a scheme that allows for the maximum of travel with the best benefits and the minimum outlay. That is different for different people. We pay for most of our air travel to obtain status as that benefits us. Others prefer to fly on points. We will pay for cheaper hotel nights and use points for more expensive. We try to maximize our HGVC and DVC use.

There is definitely no "one size fits all" way to do this. Our approach is the same as with our retirement investment portfolio - diversification of instruments. For others, vacationing may well work with a single (or few) bucket strategy investing more heavily in TS.

In the end, only we each know what will work for our preferences, patterns and comfort levels.

Cheers.
 

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In the end, only we each know what will work for our preferences, patterns and comfort levels.

Also, how we change as we learn the timeshare game.
Early on it fear, then it is replaced with enjoyment... for the most part..
Note: It's not free, not perfect, not always exactly when you want it, but if you can make the game work for you. WOW!
I know what you mean. I've done 4 weeks this year already, with 5 more planned (and one of the weeks is 2 units). Next year I have 5 planned / scheduled with 1 in the "see if there's a good Extra Vacation deal" that I'm 90% sure there will be.

Granted, I'm spending more than $2,000 for all that, but compared to the Hotel or AirBnB costs it's nothing.

2bedrooms in Cabo Azul (x2)
1 Bedroom Honolulu
2 Bedroom Kohala
3 Nights at the Elara 2 Bedroom
3 Nights at Marbrisa 2 Bedroom (x3)

We added a Hilton Credit Card and have earned more time not even shown here.

Without timeshare we would never travel like this. I don't track the cost per se, but we were spending a lot more for a lot less.
 

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@4TimeAway I absolutely agree with this. Staying at a 2 bedroom condo on South Forrest Beach or a 3 bedroom condo ocean front in Myrtle beach is something my family could not afford, at least at the level of accommodations these resorts are. A 3 bedroom condo in Vegas center strip? Back in Aug 2021 that was $8800 for 5 nights! We spent less than a thousand in our MF’s. That 3 bedroom on Myrtle beach? 10 nights were $16000! My family and I are so spoiled. We complain staying more than a night in a hotel room.
 

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@4TimeAway I absolutely agree with this. Staying at a 2 bedroom condo on South Forrest Beach or a 3 bedroom condo ocean front in Myrtle beach is something my family could not afford, at least at the level of accommodations these resorts are. A 3 bedroom condo in Vegas center strip? Back in Aug 2021 that was $8800 for 5 nights! We spent less than a thousand in our MF’s. That 3 bedroom on Myrtle beach? 10 nights were $16000! My family and I are so spoiled. We complain staying more than a night in a hotel room.
You have to think about whether or not someone is actually paying retail prices for those. All these high figures quoted are speculative and subject to change at any moment.
 

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You have to think about whether or not someone is actually paying retail prices for those. All these high figures quoted are speculative and subject to change at any moment.
Yup, they are. I don’t believe that the average of $1600 a night for the Enclave reservation would drop $1200 a night, though.
 

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if you can make the game work for you. WOW!
This is probably the best thing to keep in mind. It's a good system, in general, but it *really* rewards those who learn the game and play it well. You can absolutely make terrible timeshare decisions, but you can also make really good ones. Up to you.
 

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You have to think about whether or not someone is actually paying retail prices for those. All these high figures quoted are speculative and subject to change at any moment.
How does that work though? I guess I don't know how to negotiate these prices down - most places I see them like AirBnB don't have anything like the eBay "Make and Offer" option, and TBH like hotels and such also seem to generally be "here's the price". I also think @dayooper is right and somehow doubt they'd take an 80% lower offer.
 

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How does that work though? I guess I don't know how to negotiate these prices down - most places I see them like AirBnB don't have anything like the eBay "Make and Offer" option, and TBH like hotels and such also seem to generally be "here's the price". I also think @dayooper is right and somehow doubt they'd take an 80% lower offer.
I agree, while hotel / AirBnB pricing is dynamic and will vary by date, there are plenty of people that are willing to pay the published rates for hotels and vacation rentals.

Personally we don't try to accomplish our travel via timeshares. Sometimes we want a location not well served by what we own, and sometimes we just want a particular hotel experience. i have occasionally booked a timeshare via the hotel website, particularly if I want max flexibility.
 

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I agree, while hotel / AirBnB pricing is dynamic and will vary by date, there are plenty of people that are willing to pay the published rates for hotels and vacation rentals.

Personally we don't try to accomplish our travel via timeshares. Sometimes we want a location not well served by what we own, and sometimes we just want a particular hotel experience. i have occasionally booked a timeshare via the hotel website, particularly if I want max flexibility.
As I've said a lot elsewhere, it really depends on how and why you travel. If you have specific destinations in mind, I'd see if they're served by a timeshare. Between HGVC and Wyndham, RCI and II - a LOT of places are - actually it surprises me how many. This works reasonably well for me if I don't have any specific time I need to be somewhere. They also work well if I don't have a specific location and just want to go somewhere else for cheap lodging. Given most of my trips are literally - the reason I'm going is to go somewhere different, I just pick a timeshare from what points I have or deals that pop up.

If you have specific time you must be somewhere - then it basically almost has to be a hotel. I'll still see if there's an available timeshare cause it's usually cheaper, but I'll expect to use hotel points / pay up in that case. I will say, every time so far I don't find AirBnB to be cheaper or really any more convenient than a hotel in the same area.
 
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