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Is it just me or do you notice some Tuggers getting more cranky?

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I've always been impressed with the helpfulness and cordiality of Tuggers. But I am a bit appalled lately at the lack of decorum on Tug. I've been around here for a few years and there are some who have always been cranky or even spiteful, but lately there are more than the usual posts that are down-right mean. I wish it would stop. Remember what your mother said, if you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all.

Maybe it's winter, the economy, an election year, lack of sleep, lack of sex, etc.

Leaving now before someone throws something at me! :D
 

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I've always been impressed with the helpfulness and cordiality of Tuggers. But I am a bit appalled lately at the lack of decorum on Tug. I've been around here for a few years and there are some who have always been cranky or even spiteful, but lately there are more than the usual posts that are down-right mean. I wish it would stop. Remember what your mother said, if you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all.

Maybe it's winter, the economy, an election year, lack of sleep, lack of sex, etc.

Leaving now before someone throws something at me! :D

Hmmm....I must have missed those. On the Lounge?

I've certainly noticed that from certain people and it's almost a no-brainer that it's going to happen in some threads (destined for locks), but I haven't seen those recently. :ponder: :ponder:
 
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There are certainly some with an agenda. Whether it's pro Apple, anti MS, Pro Vida, anti Westgate, pro dog, anti cat, pro Wyndham, anti Marriott, big vs small, light meat vs dark, we all have opinions. It's just that mine are better than yours. :)

Thank goodness the mods have set certain boundaries and stick to them- even though some of us push 'em a little. This election year, I'd LOVE to expound a little or at least point out the faux pas of the faux passers, but I know that it's for the best to keep silent. Now- about that 'lack of sex, etc?'.....

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Remember what your mother said, if you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all.

But it wasn't your mama that said that.
It was Thumper in "Bambi" (1942), relating what his father told him.

Mrs. Rabbit: What did your father tell you this morning?
Thumper: [clears throat] If you can't say something nice... don't say nothing at all.
-- From IMDb, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0034492/quotes


Count me in as a cranky old geezer who has lost the patience to suffer fools gladly.
 
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Yes, I've noticed a few threads where I've wondered why someone bothered to post something unhelpful and just mean. I'm cranky myself these days or I wouldn't have posted in this thread. :ignore:

Deb
 

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We started out as just "older", but now we're cranky old geezers.
 

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There are certainly some with an agenda. Whether it's pro Apple, anti MS, Pro Vida, anti Westgate, pro dog, anti cat, pro Wyndham, anti Marriott, big vs small, light meat vs dark, we all have opinions. It's just that mine are better than yours. :)

Thank goodness the mods have set certain boundaries and stick to them- even though some of us push 'em a little. This election year, I'd LOVE to expound a little or at least point out the faux pas of the faux passers, but I know that it's for the best to keep silent. Now- about that 'lack of sex, etc?'.....

Jim

Agenda? Really? I hadn't noticed that.......... :hysterical: :hysterical:
 

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cranky??...who me?

The threads I like the most are the ones where someone has a point of view and isnt afraid to defend it. And I learn a whole lot more from a negative presentation than I do from one that only talks about the positive

The emphasis on being nice is what I like least on TUG. Not that Im advocating mean and nasty, but I do prefer honest and direct.
 

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I like the "be nice" rules on TUG and abide them. I am shocked at some who don't even belong to TUG yet get by with nasty remarks, directed at specific TUG members.

I am getting a little cranky at the cranky people on one particular thread. I am done with it.

It would actually be easy to stop TUG completely for me at this point. PA- did it, and he said it was very freeing. Hatrack, too.
 

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What I've noticed lately is a lot of posters who really have nothing to say, and are only here to stir the pot....
 

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I'm more like Ron. I'd rather folks were honest than nice. I was raised to call a spade a spade and that honesty trumps all.

In other words, don't ask me if those jeans make your a__ look big. :D
 

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When You Call Me That, Smile.

I'd rather folks were honest than nice. I was raised to call a spade a spade and that honesty trumps all.
It is possible to tell it the way it is & call a spade a spade, etc., without being blunt or brusque or insulting or off-putting.

It is possible to tell people to go to hell in such a nice way that they look forward to the trip.

It's called diplomacy.

You could look it up.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​
 

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It is possible to tell it the way it is & call a spade a spade, etc., without being blunt or brusque or insulting or off-putting.

It is possible to tell people to go to hell in such a nice way that they look forward to the trip.

It's called diplomacy.

You could look it up.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​

Yep. And it's also possible that some don't practice what they preach.

Life's funny that way, isn't it? :)
 

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I've always been impressed with the helpfulness and cordiality of Tuggers. But I am a bit appalled lately at the lack of decorum on Tug. I've been around here for a few years and there are some who have always been cranky or even spiteful, but lately there are more than the usual posts that are down-right mean. I wish it would stop. Remember what your mother said, if you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all.

Maybe it's winter, the economy, an election year, lack of sleep, lack of sex, etc.

Leaving now before someone throws something at me! :D

Totally agree with this. There have been some pretty appalling posts lately. As some others have mentioned, I also won't visit TUG if it becomes your typical rude Internet BBS. Life is too short to voluntarily subject yourself to that kind of BS. Hopefully it won't come to that.

H
 

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I Resemble That Remark.

And it's also possible that some don't practice what they preach.
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-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.
 

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I haven't really noticed it, but I don't read every thread. It's usually pretty obvious which threads are going to be contentious and which ones are worth reading and participating in. I find people here VERY helpful and friendly.
 

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Everything seems fine to me unless you were in the Marriott forum last week.
 

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And I thought I was doing well to hide my crankiness.
 

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An old Cherokee tells his grandson,"My son, there is a battle between two wolves inside us all. One is evil. It is anger, jealousy, greed, resentment, inferiority, lies and ego. The other is good. It is joy, peace, love, hope, humility, kindness, emphathy and truth."

The boy thought about it for a minute and asked, " Grandfather, which wolf wins ? "

The old man quietly replied, " Which ever one you feed". ;)
 

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Hey Allen, your smile made me smile.:D
 

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The general state of the overall economy the past few years and the even worse state of virtually everything timeshare related has changed the tenor of many timeshare discussions. Not that long ago it was about a happy picture of reasonable cost vacations everyone wanted. Now it tends more toward "I can't afford it" and "How do I get rid of it" or "Why do fees keep going up?" - hardly upbeat topics.

If there is a more negative tone it is an unfortunate reflection of the sad state far too many have found themselves in. It may be self inflicted or forced on them but either way the luxuries like timeshares - and discussions about them - tend to take a negative turn.

Want to bet if things ever do turn around in the timeshare world the tone would become far more upbeat again?
 

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I agree with the OP, there have been some uncalled for, pretty harsh, comments. And not helpful either. And I don't think from anyone that has posted on this thread (IMO).

Information and opinions posted on TUG have been invaluable for me and posters certainly don't have to agree. I appreciate the differences in opinion and different angles and spins people put on things. There are at least 3 sides to every story. It's probably been the ones in the lounge that are more susceptible to some rude (and uncalled for) comments.

I think my mother said it first, and Bambi copied. (If you can't say anything nice, don't say anythign at all). It's a good rule to live by. In the high-tech, internet world, it is easy to come across harsh. I try not to, but I also keep that in mind when reading a comment from someone and give them the benefit of the doubt (they didn't REALLY mean to come across that harsh...). And I try to have thick skin... sometimes you need it.
 

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I spend most of my TUG time in the Lounge or the Marriott boards and I've seen surprising comments on both recently. I waited awhile to post this till things settled down but it is still bothering me. It felt like friends weren't being friendly and I wasn't even in the conversation, yet it hurt me to read it so I stopped, but it still bothered me.
 

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The general state of the overall economy the past few years and the even worse state of virtually everything timeshare related has changed the tenor of many timeshare discussions. .....If there is a more negative tone it is an unfortunate reflection of the sad state far too many have found themselves in.....

Unhappy situations and the economy .... I see it more and more. As OP on the Wyndham Corporate renting out my Fixed Deeded week and the attic insulation thieves, I then yesterday got the phone call from my 87 yo aunt who had stuff in her yard STOLEN AGAIN - this time a 1961 Plymonth car and other scrap metal (last month it was the downsprouts, scaffolding, etc). Her house is 3/4 of a mile from mine. She is just crushed. Her house sits on 12 acres. It is alarmed with SAT phone hook up; now I will have to gate the property. Her A-hole (and losing it mentally) BF and his 57 yo son (who is broke) will now start another campaign on my aunt - sell that house or give it to Linda. Their brow beating is physically so much WORST on my aunt than the thefts.
 

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Hmmm....I must have missed those. On the Lounge?

I've certainly noticed that from certain people and it's almost a no-brainer that it's going to happen in some threads (destined for locks), but I haven't seen those recently. :ponder: :ponder:

I must have missed them also. The moderators do a great job keeping TUG a helpful and informative site.

Just because someone disagrees with someone else doesn't mean they're cranky. Some have a real hard time accepting that disagreement when it happens to one of their posts. And some have a real hard time reading posts that rock their mindset.
 
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