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I have 320K expiring points

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So Wyndham didn't book my other reservations on my points throughout the year that would expire at the end of the month! So I can't believe them when they say they use the points that are expiring first. I cannot extend these because I did already last year. Is it possible to make a reservation somewhere and then cancel that reservation to extend those points or will they end up in the end of the month expiring points? I have looked at all my options and hate to put them in RCI but I will if I have to. Thanks for the advice.
 

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Won't work. Canceled points return whence they came.
 

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This is an ignorant question, because I don't know. Will Wyndham allow you to transfer expiring points to another member? Will those points still expire at the end of the month or will it be extended to the person who acquired those points?
 

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This is an ignorant question, because I don't know. Will Wyndham allow you to transfer expiring points to another member? Will those points still expire at the end of the month or will it be extended to the person who acquired those points?
You cannot transfer points to another wyndham member. Once they are in rci, you can transfer the points to another rci wyndham account.
 

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So Wyndham didn't book my other reservations on my points throughout the year that would expire at the end of the month! So I can't believe them when they say they use the points that are expiring first. I cannot extend these because I did already last year. Is it possible to make a reservation somewhere and then cancel that reservation to extend those points or will they end up in the end of the month expiring points? I have looked at all my options and hate to put them in RCI but I will if I have to. Thanks for the advice.
The other reservations that you booked, were they for this use year (trips starting before 6/30)? Were the booked prior to 10 months using ARP? The system really should have used the expiring points unless the reservation wasn't eligible for use with those points.
 

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The other reservations that you booked, were they for this use year (trips starting before 6/30)? Were the booked prior to 10 months using ARP? The system really should have used the expiring points unless the reservation wasn't eligible for use with those points.
Yes, while there is no actual "first" (there are numbers of points allotted toward benefits on the Benefits Summary page) unless OP was booking ARP reservations or something else that required use year points, the number of points allowed for "points deposit feature" shouldn't have decremented and should have been available to move via points deposit.
 

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RCI is your best option. You can book some quality resorts instead of points expiring worthless. Wyndham resorts can also be booked with RCI for about 1/2 the normal points required. Weekly stays are the norm but sometimes 3-4 days or more can be found.
 

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I have two contracts. One that has the smallest points is Access. The other is ARP points. I looked at my points page for past/ future reservations and I cannot tell which contract they came from. How do you know?
 

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I have two contracts. One that has the smallest points is Access. The other is ARP points. I looked at my points page for past/ future reservations and I cannot tell which contract they came from. How do you know?
It isn't that they take from one or the other specifically. Look at your points summary. What do you have booked in the last 12 months ( july 1. 2023-June 30, 2024; your current use year). How many points did that use and how many expiring points did you have and how many expiring points do you have left? Did you make any of those reservations more than 10 months in advance?
 

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So Wyndham didn't book my other reservations on my points throughout the year that would expire at the end of the month! So I can't believe them when they say they use the points that are expiring first. I cannot extend these because I did already last year. Is it possible to make a reservation somewhere and then cancel that reservation to extend those points or will they end up in the end of the month expiring points? I have looked at all my options and hate to put them in RCI but I will if I have to. Thanks for the advice.
You can't deposit points into RCI that had been moved from a previous year or deposit them into a future year. You have to use them in the year you put them in or lose them.
 

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Wyndham finally got rid of the problem of using the "RIGHT" points on a reservation. You have points in a use year, they could me made up of points from that year, or points saved from a previous year. As long as by the end of that use year you have used up enough points in reservations for those save point amount in that use year you are fine. As it is only checking point totals not which points are used.

Start the process of saving them and what does wyndham say as far as points remaining are less?

Wyndham only cares about accounts not contracts. Contracts only come into consideration if you are booking ARP reservations. Any bookings 10 months or less all come out of the same bucket of points.
 
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I have a question. I know there is no buckets per say but lets say I get 105,000 points per year. In mid march of 2024, I make a 10 month reservation (non arp) for early January of 2025. My page says I have 0 out of 105,000 points left for my 2025 use year. If later that month, I move points I have left over from 2024 (60k points) by the March 31 deadline. I am assuming that the next time I log on, it would show that I have 60,000 out of 105,000 available in my 2025 use year (and 105,000 out of 105k that I can use for ARP and 105,000 out of 105k that I can deposit into RCI). Is that correct?
 

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I have a question. I know there is no buckets per se but lets say I get 105,000 points per year. In mid march of 2024, I make a 10 month reservation (non arp) for early January of 2025. My page says I have 0 out of 105,000 points left for my 2025 use year. If later that month, I move points I have left over from 2024 (60k points) by the March 31 deadline. I am assuming that the next time I log on, it would show that I have 60,000 out of 105,000 available in my 2025 use year (and 105,000 out of 105k that I can use for ARP and 105,000 out of 105k that I can deposit into RCI). Is that correct?
If you move the points over it’ll show that you have 60,000 out of 165,000 points left for the year.
 

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I have a question. I know there is no buckets per say but lets say I get 105,000 points per year. In mid march of 2024, I make a 10 month reservation (non arp) for early January of 2025. My page says I have 0 out of 105,000 points left for my 2025 use year. If later that month, I move points I have left over from 2024 (60k points) by the March 31 deadline. I am assuming that the next time I log on, it would show that I have 60,000 out of 105,000 available in my 2025 use year (and 105,000 out of 105k that I can use for ARP and 105,000 out of 105k that I can deposit into RCI). Is that correct?
Yes (except 60,000 out of 165,000 available points, like Fido said). As well as 105,000 out of 105,000 for Points Deposit Feature.
 

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Got it thanks.
 

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I have a question. I know there is no buckets per say but lets say I get 105,000 points per year. In mid march of 2024, I make a 10 month reservation (non arp) for early January of 2025. My page says I have 0 out of 105,000 points left for my 2025 use year. If later that month, I move points I have left over from 2024 (60k points) by the March 31 deadline. I am assuming that the next time I log on, it would show that I have 60,000 out of 105,000 available in my 2025 use year (and 105,000 out of 105k that I can use for ARP and 105,000 out of 105k that I can deposit into RCI). Is that correct?

What is your use year, because that makes a difference.

If you have a Jan - Dec use year then your March 2025 booking is out of NEXT years points. However if you have any other use year (Apr -Mar, July - June or Oct - Sept) then that March booking will be out of the current years points.

So what is your use year?
 

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What is your use year, because that makes a difference.

If you have a Jan - Dec use year then your March 2025 booking is out of NEXT years points. However if you have any other use year (Apr -Mar, July - June or Oct - Sept) then that March booking will be out of the current years points.

So what is your use year?
Context (105,000 points and a March 31 deadline for points deposit) seems to indicate a calendar year use year and a non-VIP account.
 

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It was a hypothetical for next year. No left over points this year.
 

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OP has a July - Jun year I assume, as they said they had points that expire at the end of the month. Unless he was VIP level that gave him the whole year to save, and it was developer points, then no saving would be possible. I think a second example in this same thread was a Jan - Dec.

Since there were two different examples, I was just trying to illustrate the use year makes a difference to the answer.
 
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