winger
TUG Member
Resorts are nice, but current website problems preventing me from paying maintenance fees is really weighing in me.
I think OC MD is a non-starter...no place to put it with the footprint MVCs usually have. Also that is a nine month resort town (that place is dead in January - like nothing is open) vs. a place like Hilton Head which has some year-round interest.I just wish Marriott's would add some resorts in North Carolina, Ocean City, Maryland and Charleston, SC.
I am always happy with the Marriott facilities, but I own resale and find it difficult to reserve the weeks I want (I have a school age DTR) and all the changes and escalating fees, increasing II fees, and more restrictions on exchanging make my units less useful. Once retirement sets in I might be happier with them.
I am happy with both DCP-Points Exchanges [MVCI] & Weeks-Exchanges [via II].
Like the MF-Payments online using our AMEX-Bonvoy [6-Points/$].
Really like the ability to search [Filter on Location/Name] and check based on monthly calendar.
Like that Marriott lets me check availability [13-Months out] whether I have points or not.
Really like the Single-Fee Club-Dues that covers Exchanges/Changes/Cancellations/Banking/Borrowing.
Like that I can bank 2-Years out.
Really like that I can put a reservation On-Hold while I check other permutations and make other arrangements.
Like the consistency of quality and standards across all resorts.
Really like the ability to book Ritz properties and more recently the expanding choices in cities with the Pulse collection.
Love the ability to get preferred treatment [due to Bonvoy Titanium] and upgrades in some resorts [e.g. Breakfast in Australia & Free-Breakfast at Ritz St. Thomas].
The one thing I dislike is having to call up to cancel a reservation. With COVID they are only operational 9:00-5:00pm EST which is inconvenient.
Q: Why is the total of the Poll 109%?
Ok. Looks like you have invested six figures or more in Marriott.We purchased 2BR EY-IV Ko'Olina resale and enrolled when given the option by paying the $995 Enrollment-Fee.
Later purchased a hybrid POINTS + 2BR Desert-Springs to reach Presidential. The hybrid sale worked out to $6.50/Point.
Recently purchased 3K-POINTS to make Chairman's [not sure why] as we already had Titanium for as long as we own [hope for life] + 13-Months preference.
Even though the POINTS purchase was expensive ~$10/Point we received close to 1M-Bonvoy [including CC 6X] as incentive.
Very close to 6 figures.Ok. Looks like you have invested six figures or more in Marriott.
I'm not an owner but I could not understand why so many people are happy with Marriott? My reading is Marriott is not very nice to resale owners. Are most of the responses from people who bought from developer? Perhaps there a bit of Stockholm syndrome going on? What am I missing?
I'm not an owner but I could not understand why so many people are happy with Marriott? My reading is Marriott is not very nice to resale owners. Are most of the responses from people who bought from developer? Perhaps there a bit of Stockholm syndrome going on? What am I missing?
Maybe I should start a separate thread. But quick Q: did you purchase from developer? Are any of these benefits available to resale buyers?
Marriott owners are happy for the most part because they are pleased with the quality and consistency of he resorts as well as the resort locations. When Marriott sold only weeks the only thing the were not able to do is to exchange their week for hotel points. That wasn’t the best value for your week so there really wasn’t a downside to buying resale.
‘Now Marriott only sells points in the US. You can buy points on the resale market but Marriott changes an additional $3 per point on the resale purchase. Once that fee is paid those points have all he same benefits as points bought directly from Marriott.
So you’re correct in not being an owner, it’s hard to understand why owners like it so much. However like all other timeshare owners we don’t like having t pay that maintenance fee each year. We do at least knowing that whatever property is it’s well maintained and provides great accommodations. I can’t say that for my other timeshare Diamond Resorts.
The one thing I dislike is having to call up to cancel a reservation. With COVID they are only operational 9:00-5:00pm EST which is inconvenient.
If you want to use a M effectively you must have a Legacy timeshare and hold on to it dearly. We have cousins that bought into the program and gave up their Hawaii legacy units... they are dealing with the disappointment and the $90K additional investment to go Presidents Club.
I recall that it was even cheaper than that, I believe $595 to enrol one week.I am confused with this part. Why did they lose their Hawaii legacy weeks? I have enrolled weeks and I can still use it as a week or convert to DPs every year. If they paid the pre-2010 enrollment fee, I think it was only $995 to enroll a week and they would still own the underlying week and could use it of they wanted. I would love to know what happened in their case.
I recall that it was even cheaper than that, I believe $595 to enrol one week.
We paid just $695 to enrol all of our eligible weeks.
As you say though, this just gave the option to elect our weeks for points each year (or not), we still retained our weeks ownership with all the benefits they offer.
Just checked my XLS-FIle. We paid $1495 to enroll.I recall that it was even cheaper than that, I believe $595 to enrol one week.
We paid just $695 to enrol all of our eligible weeks.
As you say though, this just gave the option to elect our weeks for points each year (or not), we still retained our weeks ownership with all the benefits they offer.
Just checked my XLS-FIle. We paid $1495 to enroll.
The $595 was credited back when we later purchased Points. Thus we ended up paying a sum total of $900 to enroll our 2BR-EY Ko'Olina-Week [purchased Pre-2010].
- $595: Enrollment-Fee
- $900: Penalty for Resale-Enrollment.
As time went on, I got wiser to not purchase anymore Hawaii units due to the high MF.
Thus I settled on Kierland [Resale: 5 x WKV 2BR-EY Platinum+ for ~$65K].
These accrue 740500-SO/Year [148100 x 5].
These have MF: $8K/Year but bring in $25K/Year Rental-Income.