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Housekeeping and Reservation fees with resale contracts

JJVGHNC

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At an update this morning, I was told that points acquired through a resale purchase, when used to make a reservation, are charged reservation fee and housekeeping credits, even if VIP and has unlimited housekeeping credits and reservations.
So I asked if this is true, then when making a reservation, can I say which points I want to use, so if booking a two week stay, I would use resale points, and have to pay $19, and housekeeping credits, and when booking a short stay, I would use my "real" points so as to avoid reservation fee and housekeeping credits? The salesman said yes, that was true.
I don't own resale yet, but have been watching several, and want to buy.
From what I've read here, the only real difference is that resale points can't get you to next VIP level, but are treated the same as VIP level you are already on.
And he said resale is a different bucket of points and that I can choose which bucket to take from when I make a reservation.
This is all false, correct??!!
And finally tried to sell me 105,000 points for $22k (an "excellent deal", or so he said), to give me better visibility and to get all my points into a "good bucket", power deed!
 

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Wyndham would need a major website modification to do it. There is a ARP " bucket" that sits in the background. To have an active bucket for developer points and one for resale will take a lot of code. Just think of the issues and bugs. It will be worse that when the "new" website launched.
 

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Thanks, I was pretty sure, but figured it confirm with those who really know! The word "resale" seems to trigger something inside them, and it's not pretty. Telling them you bought from telesales is another great conversation starter, especially when you are in the place where you rescinded!! Said i didn't see the need to combine 3 buckets into one, particularly since apparently they are already all in one bucket.
 

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Not only is all this false, but non-VIPs (and there's no distinction between resale and retail non-VIPs in this regard) receive a certain number of free reservation transactions and housekeeping credits, such that it's very possible to never need to pay either one of those fees if you don't run out. While I've paid for 3-4 reservation transactions this year, I'm pretty sure I've never paid for housekeeping in 9 years of ownership. In 2019, I've had stays ranging from 1 night to 6 nights, and because the longer stays balanced out the shorter ones, I never ran out of HK. (Though I must concede that the only way I had enough HK left for the 1-night stay is because I had some points placed in the credit pool from 2016 and the associated HK credits were available for me to use as well. But aside from the 1-night stay, I was fine on the 2 through 6 night various stays with just my use year housekeeping credits.)
 

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Thanks, he left out the part that whatever resale contract you own comes with its original res and hk credits.
 

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100% resale!!
I have 497,000 resale points. I only ever run out of reservation tokens, not housekeeping credits. I will use maybe an extra 4-5 of them a year tops if I change my plans. They are $19 each, so it's not worth buying retail to get VIP Gold just to not have to worry about them. A trick to get extra housekeeping if you do a lot of short stays is to rent out a full week on Redweek that costs 200,000 points, but only uses 77 credits. I only personally use half the points I own in a year, the rest I rent out for profit/extra housekeeping.
 
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