Home Resort Reservation Difficulty

[dioxide45]

If I wanted to check in Sunday May 30, 2027, the inventory release calendar tells me that inventory becomes available Thursday May 28, 2026. That is 365 days + 2 days ahead of check in. As long as I've owned at Barony, it has been like this. If you want to check in on Sunday of a certain week, you book that on Thursday 1 year and several days ahead.

If you think I'm just confused that sometimes that day happens to be a Thursday, you can play with the inventory release calendar and see for yourself. That's why I posted it.

I think the confusion here is that the call in day is Thursday but some resorts also have the first checkin day as a Thursday? What you are explaining is correct. It is always Thursday for 12 month reservations at resorts that have the first checkin day as a Friday. For resorts that have a first checkin day as a Thursday, the call in day is mostly likely going to be a Wednesday.

 

[heathpack]

I think the confusion here is that the call in day is Thursday but some resorts also have the first checkin day as a Thursday? What you are explaining is correct. It is always Thursday for 12 month reservations at resorts that have the first checkin day as a Friday. For resorts that have a first checkin day as a Thursday, the call in day is mostly likely going to be a Wednesday.

Thank you. I have been repeatedly "corrected" that for Barony (which has Friday, Sat and Sunday check ins) the earliest day to reserve a given week is a 365 days from the Friday check in . That information is incorrect. Its 365 days from the Thursday before the Friday (or Sat or Sun) check in.

My first year of ownership I called in on Friday and was too late by a day to get my desired check in day. What I have been explaining is is not a matter of the inventory release calendar "sometimes being wrong." Its actually how it works.

 

[jme]

Thank you. I have been repeatedly "corrected" that for Barony (which has Friday, Sat and Sunday check ins) the earliest day to reserve a given week is a 365 days from the Friday check in . That information is incorrect. Its 365 days from the Thursday before the Friday (or Sat or Sun) check in.

My first year of ownership I called in on Friday and was too late by a day to get my desired check in day. What I have been explaining is is not a matter of the inventory release calendar "sometimes being wrong." Its actually how it works.

This is not real clear as stated because some folks get confused about back-dating from the desired check-in date.
I think we may be saying the same thing.....only differently.
Barony Beach Club obviously has Friday, Saturday, Sunday check-in days only.
Let's say the interested party wants a 2027 Friday JUNE 4 check-in.

Simply go back to June 4th of THIS year, the year of the booking, and that's when you can call. It'll be 365 days difference.
It'll always be the same date numerically, but usually a one "week-day" difference
So, going back 365 days from that 2027 FRIDAY, JUNE 4 would be THURSDAY JUNE 4 2026.

EACH YEAR gains a day by day-of-week, so the 365 days from the 4th shifts from Friday 2027 to Thursday 2026 .
That's where the "Thursday" comes in for Barony.

 

[heathpack]

This is not correct, or at least not clear as stated.....Barony Beach Club has Friday, Saturday, Sunday check-in days only.
Let's say you want a 2027 Friday JUNE 4 check-in.
You can call 365 days ahead to get that.
So, going back 365 days from that 2027 FRIDAY, JUNE 4 would be THURSDAY JUNE 4 2026.

EACH YEAR gains a day numerically, so the 365 days from the 4th shifts from Friday 2027 to Thursday 2026 .
That's where the "Thursday" comes in for Barony.

So you're not checking in on the Thursday you're calling in, you're checking in the next year on Friday, 365 days away--- the same numerical day, the 4th.

Ok so do the math. You want to check in Sunday June 6, 2027. What day do you make the reservation and how many days in advance of the check in day is it?

 

[Dean]

Thank you. I have been repeatedly "corrected" that for Barony (which has Friday, Sat and Sunday check ins) the earliest day to reserve a given week is a 365 days from the Friday check in . That information is incorrect. Its 365 days from the Thursday before the Friday (or Sat or Sun) check in.

My first year of ownership I called in on Friday and was too late by a day to get my desired check in day. What I have been explaining is is not a matter of the inventory release calendar "sometimes being wrong." Its actually how it works.

Sorry to beat a dead horse but the time between July 2, 26 (Thursday) & July 2, 27 (Friday check in) is 365 days not 365 days plus one. It is important.

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[heathpack]

Sorry to beat a dead horse but the time between July 2, 26 (Thursday) & July 2, 27 (Friday check in) is 365 days not 365 days plus one. It is important.

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Ok I will pose a similar question to you that I posed to @jme: if you want to check in on Sunday July 4, 2027, what day should you make your reservation?

The correct answer to this is NOT July 3 or July 4, 2026.
The correct answer is: Thursday Jul 2, 2026, the day that week's inventory is released.

I don't require that you actually believe me if you are certain that you know better. I posted the Inventory Release calendar so that you, or anyone else, could check for themselves

 

[jme]

Ok so do the math. You want to check in Sunday June 6, 2027. What day do you make the reservation and how many days in advance of the check in day is it?

Horse is dead. No need to count back the beats since his passing.

If check in days are Fri, Sat, Sun, then you can book any of those check-in days by going back to the SAME numerical date as THE FIRST CHECK-IN DAY,
so that means if you want Sunday June 6, (and the 3 check-in days are still Fri, Sat, Sun),
then go back to the numerical date of the FIRST ck-in day which is Friday June 4........(365 ???? days prior to the first check-in day???).

Short story, go back one year previously using the SAME numerical date of the FIRST check-in date.
In this case it'll turn out to be Thursday June 4 of the year you're currently in, good for booking any of these: June 4, 5, 6.

You can count backwards all 365 numerical days all day long, but that's not how your call date is calculated.
Call date is same Calendar date of the FIRST ck-in day allowed, which may be different from the day you're looking for.

 

[dioxide45]

The correct answer is: Thursday Jul 2, 2026, the day that week's inventory is released.

Ok I will pose a similar question to you that I posed to @jme: if you want to check in on Sunday July 4, 2027, what day should you make your reservation?

The correct answer to this is NOT July 3 or July 4, 2026.
The correct answer is: Thursday Jul 2, 2026, the day that week's inventory is released.

I don't require that you actually believe me if you are certain that you know better. I posted the Inventory Release calendar so that you, or anyone else, could check for themselves

That is correct. It is July 2nd 2026 because the first checkin day of the weekend in 2027 is Friday July 2nd. If you instead want to check in on Friday July 2nd 2027 you would also call in on Thursday July 2nd 2026. Your just saying it in a different way which is confusing things with everyone. You call 365 days before the first checkin day of the weekend. The first checkin day is Friday the 2nd. 365 days before that is July 2nd 2026 but it falls on a Thursday.

Its 365 days from the Thursday before the Friday (or Sat or Sun) check in.

This statement is where things go awry and it gets confusing and also not truly correct. 365 days from the Thursday before the Friday in 2027 would actually be Wednesday the 1st 2026. Just think of it as 365 days before the day of the first checkin day. You're still getting the same result but adding additional complexity that isn't necessary.

 

[heathpack]

This statement is where things go awry and it gets confusing and also not truly correct. 365 days from the Thursday before the Friday in 2027 would actually be Wednesday the 1st 2026. Just think of it as 365 days before the day of the first checkin day. You're still getting the same result but adding additional complexity that isn't necessary.

Apologies for the wrong count on the number of days ahead. I did not actually count the days because I would never actually try to count 365 days (because to me its unnecessary to do so).

However, I think counting the number of days and also looking for a separate resource to determine check in days for the resort you are booking is actually more complex than using the Inventory Release calendar as I suggested. I personally think the Inventory Release calendar is way more useful than the When Can I Book? tool because the Inventory Release calendar in one place tells you what day to book for your resort.

The first year I tried to book my Barony ownership, I called on the wrong day because what I understood incorrectly from TUG is that you call to book one year ahead of your desired reservation date. So that first year, I did not get my desired check in day because I called a day too late. Right then I learned that the Thursday prior is the day to book, which is important but not complicated.

Whatever. I guess what to me is a very simple way to understand this (use the calendar) can feel very complex to others who prefer to count 365 days. There often is more than one way to skin a cat.

 

[Dean]

Ok I will pose a similar question to you that I posed to @jme: if you want to check in on Sunday July 4, 2027, what day should you make your reservation?

The correct answer to this is NOT July 3 or July 4, 2026.
The correct answer is: Thursday Jul 2, 2026, the day that week's inventory is released.

I don't require that you actually believe me if you are certain that you know better. I posted the Inventory Release calendar so that you, or anyone else, could check for themselves

So that others may be clear, MVC releases all inventory for check ins for a given week at one time. If there is a Thursday check in, it's 365 days ahead of the Thursday and if there is only Friday, Saturday and Sunday (plus Monday in some cases), it's 365 days ahead of the Friday. That will make any additional check in days after the first one +1, +2, etc. I don't rely totally on the when can you book tool. I use it but also double check in my mind as well. As I noted, I've seen it be wrong once plus it helps me to keep up with it to track along as the reservation window is close.

 

[davidvel]

Funny how many people can fail to read what others write and just talk over each other. @heathpack is absolutely correct, people that are saying T-365 days may be correct some years but this is not a hard and fast rule. Take a leap year in between, for example, which has an extra day. These years it would normally be T-366 days from 1st check in day for the week.

Also, holidays can also play a part if on that initial release date. Regardless, T-365 has NOTHING to do with the rule, it just turns out that way most years. You don't need to know the number of days, or try to subtract X days at all. Just find the first check in date for the week, and move the year back by one, using that day.

The rule is as @heathpack notes. Inventory for all check-in days in a week is on the same calendar day one year prior to the first check-in day for that resort (ignoring holidays, which technically is also part of the rule.) Nothing more nothing less.

If congress got rid of leap year, or decided to add days to the calendar every few years, the rule would not change.

 

[davidvel]

On a related note, for those who want to calculate days elapsed, or inclusive of the 2 dates, Excel is great for this. Just make a formula that does =LATERDATE column - EARLIER DATEcolumn.

If you want to include both dates in the number of days then add +1.

 

[dioxide45]

Funny how many people can fail to read what others write and just talk over each other. @heathpack is absolutely correct, people that are saying T-365 days may be correct some years but this is not a hard and fast rule. Take a leap year in between, for example, which has an extra day. These years it would normally be T-366 days from 1st check in day for the week.

You're correct, T-365 may not be the best way to say it. It is really just the same day 12 months prior. Not the same day of the week, the same day or date if you want to call it that. So, if the first checkin day falls on June 2nd 2027, then call-in is June 2nd 2026. However that isn't what was necessarily said. It was said that it was the "365 days from the Thursday before the Friday (or Sat or Sun) check in". I don't think that was the best way to articulate it.

I agree, no need to count back days and using the inventory release calendar, as she stated is the easiest tool to use. But understanding how it works is also good to know in the event the tool is inaccurate.

13 month reservations is the same day (not day of the week) 13 months prior. In some cases this may fall on a weekend. I think this happens when the leap day is in there. In cases where the release date is a weekend or holiday, inventory is released the following business day.

 

[dioxide45]

Whatever. I guess what to me is a very simple way to understand this (use the calendar) can feel very complex to others who prefer to count 365 days. There often is more than one way to skin a cat.

I don't think anyone is actually counting 365 days. I know I don't and I think I may have used 365 days incorrectly as that isn't really the best way to state it. I also think 365 is just a generalization to instead say the same day 12 months prior.