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Hilton Grand Vacations resale feasibility and Wyndham VIP resale

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We have tried out several types of timeshares using Hilton Grand and Wyndham's introductory plans. We have found we enjoyed them both and are looking to buy resale. We thought about purchasing points from both Hilton and Wyndham to give us options. Any thoughts about this?

Also, when we went for our last Hilton check-in we were told by the Hilton sales person that since Hilton has First right of refusal very rarely would a Hilton timeshare be available through the resale market. We have seen several on the Timeshare market place, what's the likelihood of those purchases really going through if Hilton is buying them all up?

We are also interested in Wyndham's CWA. Through Tugg market place I have found several under Wyndham VIP, is this a legit resale broker?
 

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The HGVC salesmen don't want you to buy resale weeks therefore told you that resale weeks generally don't pass ROFR. Baloney

BTW HGVC doesn't have points. Their weeks are assigned points but you own a week at a resort. Hilton Vacation club HVC (AKA Diamond Resorts) has both weeks and points.
 

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We picked up a freebie (just paid closing costs and transfer fees) CWA contract last year. If I were to do it again, i would probably watch out for a better MF/1000 point CWS contract.
 

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If you really just want in the HGVC ecosystem, someone is desperately trying to get rid of a silver week in the giveaway forum. I'm not sure what amount you'd need to get passed ROFR, but it's likely not high.
 

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Are all of the for sale timeshare listings under the TUGG timeshare marketplace legit or do I need to do my homework? There are several for Wyndham CWA under a listing called Wyndham VIP, they look very tempting but I can't find anything about the company or listing owner.
 

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I can tell you the easy way (and some would argue the best way) to get HGVC is buy from Craig in Scotland. Get at least 11,200pts IMHO, so 2BR platinum season. The MFs are very low on those. I paid about the same for a 2BR week in Florida, and after the broker fees, MF reimbursement, closing costs etc it was about the same or more than from Craig direct. And my MFs are about $500 more a year for the same points. I low key want to pick up a Craig week myself.

I also got Club Wyndham Select/Plus?? Not CWA. I think there are a number of properties for less than CWA MF prices, and still cheap on eBay, which is where I got mine.

TBH, I feel like for my travels, the 11,200pts is more than I need for 1 week off season, but not enough for 2 weeks. That said, I can save or borrow points, and HGVC locations are kind of limited. I think the worst thing would be Hawaii if I wanted to try for a newer location, they are very expensive in points vs the older locations that are the "standard" 11,200pts.

Wyndham I mostly feel like I could use any points I have - I got 405,000 and could easily use more than that. But I don't want to lock in the MFs right now. Wyndham has options just about anywhere HGVC has in the US, but they're not quite as nice or not quite as nice a location. That said, you can easily get lots of points for not much up front from Wyndham on eBay, and there are free options too for smaller point values. The thing about Wyndham is that if you're flexible, you can often get them on RCI Extra Vacations for less than the MF cost for the points. So that can argue against it - at least for overbuilt areas.

The logic behind my point values was to get enough points to get a 2BR for a week at around 90% of the locations in the system. Your needs will vary. It certainly is doable resale, and recommended.
 

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Go to the HGVC Forum. At the top of the page, there's a section called ROFR Exercised/Passed.

The conventional wisdom is that ROFR is being exercised on Myrtle Beach contracts but not so much elsewhere.
 

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I own both Wyndham and HGVC. I also own others.

HGVC mainly has a lot of a resorts in a few areas, and a one resort in a few other places. I don't have MAX just HGVC. I like Hilton units and generally their attitude and desire to be somewhat helpful.

Wyndham (with WM) has a lotta, lotta resorts, everywhere. So that is good for other purposes. And you can use it to align up a cross country road trip.
 

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Are all of the for sale timeshare listings under the TUGG timeshare marketplace legit or do I need to do my homework? There are several for Wyndham CWA under a listing called Wyndham VIP, they look very tempting but I can't find anything about the company or listing owner.
if you mean legit as in not scams or fake listings then yes they are legitimate.

however before you buy any timeshare you need to do your homework! just because its being offered for free doesnt make it any less of a risk to buy without doing the proper research to know what you are getting!
 

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The conventional wisdom is that ROFR is being exercised on Myrtle Beach contracts but not so much elsewhere.
This is what I've been hearing - HGVC in S Carolina is being exercised, unless it is >~$2/point. I heard this from one of the timeshare MLS broker people.
 

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I own both Wyndham and HGVC. I also own others.

HGVC mainly has a lot of a resorts in a few areas, and a one resort in a few other places. I don't have MAX just HGVC. I like Hilton units and generally their attitude and desire to be somewhat helpful.

Wyndham (with WM) has a lotta, lotta resorts, everywhere. So that is good for other purposes. And you can use it to align up a cross country road trip.

HGVC's list of destinations has increased a lot but it's because of an arrangement with Great Wolf Lodges, which are outrageously expensive when using HGVC points. Looks good but not very useful.
 

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We have both HGVC and Wyndham as our portfolio. Started out with HGVC and then picked up Wyndham as they have several locations in one of our desired locations.
 

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Also, when we went for our last Hilton check-in we were told by the Hilton sales person that since Hilton has First right of refusal very rarely would a Hilton timeshare be available through the resale market. We have seen several on the Timeshare market place, what's the likelihood of those purchases really going through if Hilton is buying them all up?
:rolleyes: HGVC will say anything to convince you that retail is the only way to go. There are plenty of people on these boards who bought HGVC resale.
 

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Also, when we went for our last Hilton check-in we were told by the Hilton sales person that since Hilton has First right of refusal very rarely would a Hilton timeshare be available through the resale market. We have seen several on the Timeshare market place, what's the likelihood of those purchases really going through if Hilton is buying them all up?
Did an owner's update VIP presentation today. Some observations are as follows:

MAX doesn't transfer las resale, like it was good thing for me the buyer. I'm paying extra to buy something I can't sell. Perhaps his point was this is the only way to get it, but 90% of the time was spent on DEX. He had me confused which probably it was also the point.

We mentioned we only have 2 weeks of vacation a year and he then described how we owned enough pints for 5 weeks of vacation.

They claim Hilton is buying all the deeds backs. Not true. Couldn't get the words in to ROFR.net, but it was spiraling by then.

They claim Hilton is upgrading all the units, since they can afford it. Not true. I had to mention, my MFs include improvements and capital expenses.

The kicker... MAX is the way forward, everything else will be worthless..... My resales were worthless and he could save me today.

Said I didn't have the money to pay today and so he went the TO and came back to pitch a EOY Silver Elara Studio for $20k or something.

We left.


Only thing learned is the way they are spinning MAX seems like they want it to replace RCI and Interval. He did a 24 month search for property options in California. Took forever to load and was not even something we were interested in.
 
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