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well yes, if an ownership had interested parties there wouldnt be a need to suggest trying to surrender it back to the resort.

however for anyone looking to give away an unwanted timeshare, TUG advice is almost always to try to reach out to the resort to ask about a deedback. it is certainly not unique to your situation though as mentioned above is likely to have a better chance of success than finding a new owner to take it off your hands.

Perhaps look at it another way, had someone provided you the truth about your ownership before you bought it originally you likely would have been extremely thankful for that information! Countless owners here find themselves in this very situation and also wish they had gotten that info before buying vs afterwards. Believe me if you had come on TUG asking about this ownership before you bought it, youd get the exact same responses!
I bought it 11 years ago. I started looking into deed backs of both of my resorts 3 years ago, off and on, this site didn't even come up in any searches until 2 days ago. I still don't agree that there is encouragement to post in a giveaway thread, just so people can tell you it's worthless. And I specifically don't appreciate that a member is allowed to attack my integrity saying I was planning on deceiving somebody because I listed it on a giveaway thread. I clearly stated what I was giving away in my giveaway post
 
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TUG has been around since the early 90s and was most certainly here for help both 3 years ago and 11 years ago!

I am sorry you were not able to find us then to save yourself a fortune, and I truly hope you are able to work out a reasonable solution to exit your ownership via deedback or using the rofr "suggestion" in the other thread.
 

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I bought it 11 years ago. I started looking into deed backs of both of my resorts 3 years ago, off and on, this site didn't even come up in any searches until 2 days ago. I still don't agree that there is encouragement to post in a giveaway thread, just so people can tell you it's worthless. And I specifically don't appreciate that a member is allowed to attack my integrity saying I was planning on deceiving somebody because I listed it on a giveaway thread. I clearly stated what I was giving away in my giveaway post

@knits1 There are a lot of good folks here who will try to help. If you don't like what someone said, it is in your best interest to ignore it. I wish you had found the site earlier before you got into this situation, but at this point you are where you are. You will get mostly honest feedback here.

You need to come to grips with some "what i believe to be facts" :
1) a silver season unit has the same maintenance fee as a platinum week, but with half of the points so it is very hard to give away. Gold season has a similar devaluation issue but silver season is extreme. So you actually do need help - please do not assume that you are being charitable.
2) i am not sure if you suggested you owned a summer week or booked summer using your points. But it opened you up to questions.
3) you recently signed up, so we know little about your history, There are a lot of scammers who sign up and post then dissapear. We are an established community.
4) the chance of HGVC taking this back via ROFR is VERY slim. Anyone who takes on this unit will be facing the same issue as you are - it will be hard to get rid of.

I wish you luck with your situation. You will get some good advice here. In my opinion, you MAY be able to give it away since HGVC is a good company - but you likely will have to add incentive like available fee points with a maint fee paid and cover closing cost.
 
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So I will just have to default on it since that would put me out of options. They won't let me deed back, and if I can't give it away .....
Do you still have a loan, or are you considering defaulting on your maintenance fees? I don't think any remarks about $/point will sway buyers on this forum. Most folks here are well-educated regarding timeshares and know what they want. Some want platinum seasons & pay a premium to get it, while others want free with cheap maintenance fees. The rest want something in between.
 

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@knits1 There are a lot of good folks here who will try to help. If you don't like what someone said, it is in your best interest to ignore it. I wish you had found the site earlier before you got into this situation, but at this point you are where you are. You will get mostly honest feedback here.

You need to come to grips with some "what i believe to be facts" :
1) a silver season unit has the same maintenance fee as a platinum week, but with half of the points so it is very hard to give away. Gold season has a similar devaluation issue but silver season is extreme. So you actually do need help - please do not assume that you are being charitable.
2) i am not sure if you suggested you owned a summer week or booked summer using your points. But it opened you up to questions.
3) you recently signed up, so we know little about your history, There are a lot of scammers who sign up and post then dissapear. We are an established community.
4) the chance of HGVC taking this back via ROFR is VERY slim. Anyone who takes on this unit will be facing the same issue as you are - it will be hard to get rid of.

I wish you luck with your situation. You will get some good advice here. In my opinion, you MAY be able to give it away since HGVC is a good company - but you likely will have to add incentive like available fee points with a maint fee paid and cover closing cost.
Unfortunately at this point I think HGVC is anything but a good company. When I joined , I joined to find out if anyone had success with deed back , and had been specifically interested in foreclosure info since I been rounds with them. I totally have come to term with my situation. But than I made the huge mistake of reading "why not give it away, maybe somebody wants it" which than led my giveaway post turning into free for all on my character and advise.....I truly thought that this thread was about giveaway. And was all inclusive, not excluding HGTV silver at andersons....now I know
 

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that is certainly an interesting take on things...

nothing has changed with your situation. if you dont find any success in the next 6months trying to surrender it back to hilton then stopping payment in 2025 and beyond is likely your best (and only really) option to dispose of this ownership.

both of these options are free to you and the only expense involved is like your time. If you fight/argue as hard with hilton as you do here, id bet even money you will be able to negotiate a surrender!
 

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I bought it 11 years ago. I started looking into deed backs of both of my resorts 3 years ago, off and on, this site didn't even come up in any searches until 2 days ago. I still don't agree that there is encouragement to post in a giveaway thread, just so people can tell you it's worthless. And I specifically don't appreciate that a member is allowed to attack my integrity saying I was planning on deceiving somebody because I listed it on a giveaway thread. I clearly stated what I was giving away in my giveaway post


I am not sure how this is all going to end but in any event DO NOT PAY anyone upfront money to take this off your hands as this will only be a scam. They'll take your money and just disappear despite whatever they tell you otherwise.

Hopefully you will be able to find a willing taker on your own, or are successful in deeding back to the Resort.

Best of luck with your situation!








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I think it would be worth reposting and make sure you list everything up front exactly correctly and what you are willing to cover for closing and maint fees and transfer fees Not sure it was mentioned but LT transfers is pretty reasonable for closing costs and would give you some control.

I am not sure anyone attacked your character directly but i read over this lightly. Good luck !
 

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that is certainly an interesting take on things...

nothing has changed with your situation. if you dont find any success in the next 6months trying to surrender it back to hilton then stopping payment in 2025 and beyond is likely your best (and only really) option to dispose of this ownership.

both of these options are free to you and the only expense involved is like your time. If you fight/argue as hard with hilton as you do here, id bet even money you will be able to negotiate a surrender!
I argued harder with them for last couple weeks again after giving it a break for about a year to focus on other things. But since Hilton has no integrity and flat out lied telling me they never take back resorts (3x), I was out of buy back window and they only buy back first 10 days (last call), foreclosure is the only option and the real reason I came to the forum since Hilton mentioned "fees" if I just let it go to foreclosure. I was hoping to find out what "fees" they were referring too. And than unfortunately came across the thread to give away. It gave me a little hope since when we used it the few times we could, we benefitted from the perks of Hilton silver membership with the free room upgrades (wifi, water...and what ever else, we used in dayton beach and puerto rico) and staying in nicer places in Las Vegas, and we traded it for a cruise before. So before posting here, I never felt is was totally worthless, but sure feel like it now....lol. I might return their call today vs waiting until Monday to find out if they give yet another reason they won't buy back since they refuse to give me anything but the standard "contact you in 30 days" by e-mail although I requested they start giving me their reasons in writing. I don't know what department actually contacts you for deed back/surrender but feel like its the same the department that is calling me trying to tie me up in another contract to list it on a broker site for another year like the last time.
 
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I think it would be worth reposting and make sure you list everything up front exactly correctly and what you are willing to cover for closing and maint fees and transfer fees Not sure it was mentioned but LT transfers is pretty reasonable for closing costs and would give you some control.

I am not sure anyone attacked your character directly but i read over this lightly. Good luck !
I would end up with fees from them and Hilton to transfer, so in my opinion it would be cheaper to just go thru Hilton...pay once. Everything is paid up to date, they told me this upcoming year fees are not determined yet. It would be impossible without tying myself to someone for the next 6 month to pay anything that isn't due yet.
 

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@knits1 As someone suggested, you can start a new giveaway thread. Include all the details about the resort, some things you learned and the fact that you will pay closing. If you want to enhance your chances, and don’t want the risk of foreclosure, offer a $500 visa gift card upon closing. Someone might just jump on it.

There is no harder truth as to the real value of a timeshare than when the timeshare company itself tells an owner that they don’t want it even for free. A even harder truth in this case is that they don’t want it back period, even if you paid them to take it, otherwise they would have given you a counter offer.
 

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@knits1 As someone suggested, you can start a new giveaway thread. Include all the details about the resort, some things you learned and the fact that you will pay closing. If you want to enhance your chances, and don’t want the risk of foreclosure, offer a $500 visa gift card upon closing. Someone might just jump on it.

There is no harder truth as to the real value of a timeshare than when the timeshare company itself tells an owner that they don’t want it even for free. A even harder truth in this case is that they don’t want it back period, even if you paid them to take it, otherwise they would have given you a counter offer.
I just got of the phone with them again. At first I wasn't going to get annoyed and stressed before the weekend again, but decided I don't want to leave it for a monday....LOL. Also I have stuff going on next 2 weeks. Different story every time. But that was also my point to him, they told me value increases , yet they won't take it back. I simply think its a strategy to make people hang on to it as long as they can. Even their resell contract talks about their broker "buying it back". If you think about it, I'm all paid up, so I list with them, now my points are frozen, so I keep paying everything, but can't use it because they are listing it for a year (contract is for a whole year)......like "double dipping". I been pushing the issue about getting things in writing from them since I told him the last person told me it was because of the past 10 days. Although he said "oh, you want to do a deed back"....which is what i had literally put in my last e-mail: deed back or surrender. But he acted all surprised, can't blame that on my accent and their accent colliding since I keep having to put things in writing even if they absolutely refuse to put anything in writing back, accept they got my request and respond in 30 days (at least this time they didn't misspell my husbands name...LOL....it such a common name, how does that even happen....LOL).
 

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The ugly truth is that they need people paying the maint fees for the lower demand weeks like yours. They likely don't want to take it back unless they feel like they can make money off it again.

The really ugly truth is that they knew when they sold it to you for a good sum of money that it was not worth but a very small fraction of that on the resale market. You, like many people, are stuck in this situation and it was never fair but they can and did do it. YOU DO NOT WANT TO DEAL WITH THEM FOR ANYTHING EXCEPT A DIRECT DEED SURRENDER.

I originally referenced Hilton being a good company but I agree they are going downhill with their new aquisitions - but they have to have something to sell. But what i meant is that aside for the sales people i was always treated well by customer service. The stuff Hyatt is trying to push at me every time i go to a resort is a horrible deal and my ownership value there is eroding, but customer service is great. Marriott usually treats me well and is not high pressure. I decided a few years ago to trim down my ownerships and let go of my Hilton because we did not go to Orlando as much anymore since our kids are grown, and our favorite resort Ocean Oak suddenly was very hard to get into. We did a lot of flying to Hawaii and Colorado and Cali and AZ using our Hilton but now are content to drive to FL and visit relatives and our favorite few resorts for most of our traveling.

Thankfully i found TUG after originally wanting to buy HGVC and saying NO to the sales weasels and buying retail after research. My first Hyatt was an undesirable low season EOY unit but i got it free and used it for years and was able to give it away with incentives (after buying another high demand week resale because we like it so much). So the unit may be worth it to somebody if the aquisition costs are low and maybe they get free usage. Unlike the sales weasels, your responsibility on the forum is to be honest and upfront with the details any maybe somebody will be willing to take it on. The other option is you keep using it to make lemonaide out of a lemon - but it does not sound like you want the responsiblity anymore. You should be able to use your points and still derive more value that the maintenance fee - or find someone who is willing and does not have the regret of all the sunk cost you do. Silver is the lowest, but at least you are a silver plus week from what I can tell. But i would want a new thread - a fresh start.
 

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Honestly, since this is a silver week, just wait for HGVC's response on the free voluntary deedback.
 

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Honestly, since this is a silver week, just wait for HGVC's response on the free voluntary deedback.
I had no intention of relisting here again ;-) just extra work because people will look at this thread anyway and think "no"....LOL. Not feeling going round 2 with novak or whatever his name is either. I let him get under my skin way to much. My health is more important....LOL. like I said, we used it to our advantage when staying at the Hilton's (hotels) , cruises and RCI since i couldn't always get the location I needed because we either where going for Pool time or scuba diving. And the Hilton resorts in Vegas is not where we wanted to stay, and since the points convert to higher values cause its resort points...well.... we stayed in other resorts. I sure enjoyed the large balcony , upper decks cruise for a couple hundred dollars more we took one year (specially since food included). Haven't even tried it yet with their new agreement with royal carribean since we can't travel anymore. I honestly had thought someone could turn it to their advantage by taking it, cause you know hilton is going to want them to upgrade it, but got corrected!.....LOL.
 
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