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Hawaii to require 14-day quarantine of incoming air passengers

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Less reported today than yesterday. Got to stay focused now. Less distractions should help.
 

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The sad thing is that you have taken this thread away from the topic.
You are correct. We have wandered off topic. My apologies for contributing to that.
 

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You are correct. We have wandered off topic. My apologies for contributing to that.
No need apologize. We got far bigger worries than the distinction between Hawaii government and Hawaiian government. The other guy can win the discussion. It is not a contest as to who gets the last word in.
 

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No need apologize. We got far bigger worries than the distinction between Hawaii government and Hawaiian government. The other guy can win the discussion. It is not a contest as to who gets the last word in.
I agree, it is clear that people in Hawaii DO NOT want additional people coming there from other areas that may bring additional the virus to the islands. That goes for Hawaiians, non Hawaiian residents, and the Government! The 14 day quarantine is a nice way of dictating, DON'T COME.
 

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I agree, it is clear that people in Hawaii DO NOT want additional people coming there from other areas that may bring additional the virus to the islands. That goes for Hawaiians, non Hawaiian residents, and the Government! The 14 day quarantine is a nice way of dictating, DON'T COME.
The governor has been very effective here. Tourism is now closed. However, we want this to end as soon as possible so we can reopen for business. Despite all our internal grumbling and discontent, we live in the greatest of the fifty states. Nothing comes close. I am not going to debate this.
 

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The governor has been very effective here. Tourism is now closed. However, we want this to end as soon as possible so we can reopen for business. Despite all our internal grumbling and discontent, we live in the greatest of the fifty states. Nothing comes close. I am not going to debate this.
I totally agree with you and agree with Governor Ige with his proclamation, I would have done the same thing. When I heard that Hotels were closing I said that the first thing I would do is stop people from coming so the census in the Hotels was low before they close. I was in Hawaii from December 7-March 23 in Timeshares and I only left when HGVC told us that they wouldn't be keeping the timeshare open and I didn't want to be searching around for a place to stay during this virus spread and there was limited air travel off the island. We caught the second to last direct flight from Honolulu to JFK with no one siting near us and only very limited bathroom usage, which I cleaned intensely with disinfectant wipes before my husband and I went in. There was no one going through Security, the deplaning was quick and we had no luggage. I am not debating this, it is good for the people in Hawaii; but is it is fact:

"people in Hawaii DO NOT want additional people coming there from other areas that may bring additional the virus to the islands. That goes for Hawaiians, non Hawaiian residents, and the Government! The 14 day quarantine is a nice way of dictating, DON'T COME."
 

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Glad you had a nice trip back. I am praying for NY. The people are definitely following orders here. I have been out to get supplies and it is a ghost town. Everyone is being careful. We are definitely 1000 times better off than we were a week ago.
 

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Glad you had a nice trip back. I am praying for NY. The people are definitely following orders here. I have been out to get supplies and it is a ghost town. Everyone is being careful. We are definitely 1000 times better off than we were a week ago.
We are in our private house in the middle of the woods on Long Island with no elevators to deal with to get in and out. We can get deliveries right to our front door and have cars to pick up stuff that we order for pick up. One of the things that urged us to go back home was that Waikiki was a ghost town and we started to not feel as safe as we always do when we are there walking around. People here are staying in their houses only going out to pick up food. Hopefully the spread slows and ceases all across the world.
 

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For those who are wondering if this edict re visitors and returning residents is official, it definitely is. At first, we were told a warning would be issued initially, but now they are going straight to citations, and fines can be up to $5000. Hawaii is not your dream vacation right now.....so much is closed e.g. restaurants, nightclubs, parks, beaches, all the special attractions. Those of us not under quarantine are directed to stay at home; we can go to the grocery store, get gas, go to limited banks, get take-out food. Frankly, everybody has to do their part. There are the idiots who think the virus wouldn't effect them, but they ignore the fact that they could pass it on to others. We'll get through this, but save your visit to Hawaii once we can get back to normal.
 

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For those who are wondering if this edict re visitors and returning residents is official, it definitely is. At first, we were told a warning would be issued initially, but now they are going straight to citations, and fines can be up to $5000. Hawaii is not your dream vacation right now.....so much is closed e.g. restaurants, nightclubs, parks, beaches, all the special attractions. Those of us not under quarantine are directed to stay at home; we can go to the grocery store, get gas, go to limited banks, get take-out food. Frankly, everybody has to do their part. There are the idiots who think the virus wouldn't effect them, but they ignore the fact that they could pass it on to others. We'll get through this, but save your visit to Hawaii once we can get back to normal.
You said this very well. It couldn't have said it better. That is certainly part of the reasons we left last Tuesday. As I said on another tread Waikiki is now more like Molokai than Waikiki!!
 

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We really had the potential to be the next New York. I am cautiously optimistic we will avoid that type of growth rate. People are scared now and paying attention. I hope we didn’t shut down too late.
 

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We really had the potential to be the next New York. I am cautiously optimistic we will avoid that type of growth rate. People are scared now and paying attention. I hope we didn’t shut down too late.
In addition some of the guests who are currently here are insulting the workers who are trying to do their job and not get infected:
Big Island resort worker asks mainland tourists to show aloha during crisis
Among her nightmare stories, a guest from San Francisco used racial slurs and said hotel staff should be grateful that tourists give them jobs.
Saturday, March 28th 2020, 11:26 AM HST by Annalisa Burgos
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On the Big Island, a handful of resorts remain open to serve flight crews, essential workers from neighboring islands, and dozens of mainland tourists waiting out the COVID-19 crisis.

A hotel union worker who asked not to be identified says she and her colleagues are shocked by the attitude of visitors who feel entitled to access and services despite the state's "Stay at Home" order.

"If you're going to come to escape your own city, town, state's rules and regulations for lockdown, why are you here? And then being rude on top of it and sometimes quite abusive.," she said.

Among her nightmare stories, a guest from San Francisco used racial slurs and said hotel staff should be grateful that tourists give them jobs.


She said guests are extending stays, paying as much as $200 a night, but are ignoring restrictions on where they can go.

And while the state can't ban visitors outright, hospitality workers are asking tourists to show aloha to people working during the crisis.

"We're all in this together, we're all having to go through this. And it's not easy, you know, we are all worried whether or not we are essential workers or not. We all have families to go home to also," she said.
 

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In addition some of the guests who are currently here are insulting the workers who are trying to do their job and not get infected:
Big Island resort worker asks mainland tourists to show aloha during crisis
Among her nightmare stories, a guest from San Francisco used racial slurs and said hotel staff should be grateful that tourists give them jobs.
Saturday, March 28th 2020, 11:26 AM HST by Annalisa Burgos
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On the Big Island, a handful of resorts remain open to serve flight crews, essential workers from neighboring islands, and dozens of mainland tourists waiting out the COVID-19 crisis.

A hotel union worker who asked not to be identified says she and her colleagues are shocked by the attitude of visitors who feel entitled to access and services despite the state's "Stay at Home" order.

"If you're going to come to escape your own city, town, state's rules and regulations for lockdown, why are you here? And then being rude on top of it and sometimes quite abusive.," she said.

Among her nightmare stories, a guest from San Francisco used racial slurs and said hotel staff should be grateful that tourists give them jobs.


She said guests are extending stays, paying as much as $200 a night, but are ignoring restrictions on where they can go.

And while the state can't ban visitors outright, hospitality workers are asking tourists to show aloha to people working during the crisis.

"We're all in this together, we're all having to go through this. And it's not easy, you know, we are all worried whether or not we are essential workers or not. We all have families to go home to also," she said.

I have mixed feelings about this kind of journalism. It rarely reflects reality. It is often a snapshot of a bad episode or episodes. We need to hear the good right now. Not the bad.
 

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I have mixed feelings about this kind of journalism. It rarely reflects reality. It is often a snapshot of a bad episode or episodes. We need to hear the good right now. Not the bad.
I agree with your comment, we definitely need to hear the good right now. As in most situations there are individual people who act out of line. I am sure there are tourists that feel that they are entitled as described here and we know that there is racism in the USA. We also know that there are essential workers during this stressful time that are either not going to work or taking extra precautions when they do go to work and not giving their job the usual bright happy Aloha. If you are being helped at all during this crisis by others you should be thankful. Think of where we as a society would be right now if all of the essential workers stayed home!!
 
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