Grand Summit won't participate

[hudson1126]

Grand Summit at The Canyons in Park City, Utah ( resort # 5347) is listed as a Points Resort and weeks resort. However, my owner services department says that a decision was made by the parent company , ASC ( American Skiing Corp) to participate in weeks only. Grand Summit has a very high VEP and a ski season week at my resort is over 101,000 points.

I want to become a points member, but my owner services says I cannot participate. Is there any thing I can do? Is Grand Summit in violation of any agreements with RCI in not permitting me to have this option?

Thanks.

 

[Madge]

Thea,

We still show the resort listed as RCI Points-affiliated. I'll check with our resort liaison and see what I can find out. Sounds like you have a great unit!

 

[hudson1126]

Any update?

Madge -

Is there any report back from the resort liaison?

Thanks,

skifit

 

[Madge]

skifit,

As it has been explained to me, the resort is not actively selling Points conversions right now. However, they do participate in the Points program insofar as they are honoring the existing Points member. They have the option to sell conversions again in the future if they wish.

 

[hudson1126]

Thanks, but this is still strange

At no time has the management ever mentioned anything about being in any way associated with Points. They have not, to my knowledge, offered points conversions.

Is there a way to ascertain when this "Points conversion" time period was supposed to have taken place?

When I asked the owner services department about participatin, they said we don't participate in Points, period. From your reply, it would seem that their answer is not correct if they sold Points prior.

Thanks for further delving on this. Maybe you can find out how many Points memberships were sold and when to verify their existence.

 

[Madge]

skifit,

There are not many members who converted to Points with Grand Summit; however, the resort's status is currently with Points. It is possible for this status to change in the future if the individual members do not elect to continue in Points at the end of any three-year term.

 

[hudson1126]

Still not making sense

This is still not making sense to me.

This is a quote from Tiffany Peters, Owner Services manager at Grand Summit at the Canyons in November 2005:

"We are strictly a weeks resort. Our members can not switch to be points members. This was a corporate decision, so all ASC Resorts are consistent"

This does not seem to compute with the other information provided earlier in this thread. In fact, it is completely contradictory.

So how is it that Grand Summit at Canyons appears on the Points chart? Can you please verify if RCI members have been trading into there on points?

Is this true that my resort can prevent me from transferring my weeks to points?

 

[Gary]

Sneaky Grand Summit Strategy

This may well be a sneaky strategy by the Grand Summit folks: Look what they get if they are technically a points resort, but don't have to deal with points: their members, who own quartershares, cannot do points for deposit, earning a ton of points for all those unused weeks. They cannot do the 45 day, all weeks 9000 points, either, as that applies only to weeks resorts. Owners get screwed, and are pushed toward allowing the GS resort to rent for them. Many GS are empty during slow periods, and it is easier to care for empty rooms than rooms filled with folks who got a bargain.

 

[Madge]

hudson,

Actually, Tiffany's statement is true, and so is mine. The resort is not offering conversion to Points. And, as I mentioned earlier in this thread, they may not even need to continue honoring members who previously converted to Points if those members do not elect to continue.

 

[Madge]

Hudson1126,

I received an update on this today. Due to the low volume of Points activity with this resort, and because conversion is no longer being offered, we are allowing Points-for-Deposit. You will also not see the RCI Points logo appearing with this resort in our online directory.

Hopefully, this will resolve some confusion and provide more options for Points members who also own weeks at Grand Summit.

 

[Pit]

Madge

Can you confirm that the Grand Summit resort will allow PFD? So, we can hopefully avoid a repeat of this situation relating to Silverleaf.

 

[30murray]

Hudson1126,

I received an update on this today. Due to the low volume of Points activity with this resort, and because conversion is no longer being offered, we are allowing Points-for-Deposit. You will also not see the RCI Points logo appearing with this resort in our online directory.

Hopefully, this will resolve some confusion and provide more options for Points members who also own weeks at Grand Summit.

Madge:

How do you get Points-for -Deposit? RCI says they do NOT allow that and you are saying they do. What "update" did you receive?

 

[hudson1126]

Clarifying Points and Points for Deposit at Grand Summit

Madge-

Please clarify as there is much confusion regarding the Grand Summit Resort's status in Points Program and the individual owner's Points for Deposit account option.

We need a very clear explanation of when the changes are in effect and what the owners are entitled to do and how to do it. Will there be some kind of official announement with instructions sent from RCI to the Grand Summit HOA?

I ask because of posts such as the one below which seem to indicate that there are multiple methods in play for the Points For Deposit.



Most often, points are automatically deposited in three-year terms. Then, if you want to visit your resort during your Home Week in the same unit type as you own, you contact RCI 12-13 months in advance. This guarantees that your own unit and week will be available. There is no transaction fee for this.

If you call later and your week is still available, you can reserve it; however, at that point it's just not guaranteed or held aside for you.

Some resorts add another step to the process and points are not allocated until owners contact the resorts first to notify them of their intentions. If you're not sure how your resort handles this, please send an e-mail to feedback@rci.com with TUG in the subject line. The Communications Team can verify that for you.
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thanks,
Hudson1126

 

[Madge]

Madge:

How do you get Points-for -Deposit? RCI says they do NOT allow that and you are saying they do. What "update" did you receive?

30murray,

In this forum, I speak for RCI. We now allow Points-for-Deposit in connection with Grand Summit deposited weeks. The process is the same as for any other Points-for-Deposit requests and is effective immediately.

 

[x3 skier]

30murray,

In this forum, I speak for RCI. We now allow Points-for-Deposit in connection with Grand Summit deposited weeks. The process is the same as for any other Points-for-Deposit requests and is effective immediately.

I own a unit at the Steamboat grand Summit which has both Points and weeks. I am a weeks member of RCI and am interested in what you call Points for Deposit. Is there a place on the RCI web site that explains this?

Thanks

 

[Madge]

abellee,

You can find information in the Ask RCI FAQ's here as well as in this thread.

 

[hudson1126]

Regarding Section VII -A-vi of the RCI FAQ Points for Deposit


If my sole ownership is in the Grand Summit, Canyons and I do not currently own at any other resort, am I ineligible to join Points for Deposit with my Grand Summit weeks?

Hudson1126

 

[Madge]

hudson1126,

To use Points for Deposit, you must own at least one Points-affiliated resort and have at least one Weeks-only ownership. Points for Deposit would not apply if you owned only at one Weeks resort or one Points resort.

 

[Pit]

Hudson1126,

I received an update on this today. Due to the low volume of Points activity with this resort, and because conversion is no longer being offered, we are allowing Points-for-Deposit. You will also not see the RCI Points logo appearing with this resort in our online directory.

Hopefully, this will resolve some confusion and provide more options for Points members who also own weeks at Grand Summit.

Madge

Can you explain what's going on? The Grand Summit-Canyons is still listed as RCI Points, despite what you said in April.

 

[Madge]

Pit,

I'll see what's happening and if anything has changed since April.

 

[Pit]

Madge,

I spoke with Owner Services, and they said nothing has changed with regard to Points membership. Nothing was stated about any change at the recent owners meeting either.

What did you find out?

 

[Madge]

Pit,

The final change for Grand Summit from Points to Weeks will take place as early as this month. However, Points-for-Deposit is an option now.

 

[Pit]

Pit,

The final change for Grand Summit from Points to Weeks will take place as early as this month. However, Points-for-Deposit is an option now.

Madge

Good to know I can use PFD as soon as my seller sends me the MTA. Is Instant Exchange also an option now? If not, when?