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My husband received a call today from a salesperson asking about our Fairfield property. Happens all the time... we don't own one. Then she asked if we have a property we might want to sell. He said yes, Virginia Beach. She put someone else on from Global Timeshare Solution. He was very impressed with her sales pitch. Of course they want money up front. She is supposed to call back on Thursday to speak to me. I have learned from TUG and the hard way not to pay money up front. Has anyone had dealings with Global Timeshare Solution based in Florida? Thanks for any help.
 

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I received a phone call from them today. They do sound impressive. Anyone have any dealing with them?
 

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If you read Rockaway's post carefully, you'll note that TUG has taught her not to pay upfront fees in an effort to rent or sell a timeshare. This company charges such fees.

For practical advice on how to sell your timeshare without getting scammed, go back to the listing of topics for this Buying, Selling, Renting forum and click on the "sticky" thread for how to sell a timeshare (at the top of the list of topics).

Meanwhile, you'll be way ahead if you avoid responding to this company's pitch.
 

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Global Timeshare Stinks

:mad: This is a lenghty story, so please bear with me.... Last spring, my parents paid Global Timeshares $850 upfront to sell their timeshare in Orlando, FL. Basically, the place posted it on their website, & did nothing else. My mother, who took care of ALL the household matters, passed away over the summer, & my father's short-term memory is affected due to health issues.

On Friday, my elderly father, received a call from Global Timeshares. The salesperson, Anthony, gave my dad the salespitch & convinced him to relist with them. (He did not disclose that they had already tried to sell with them.) My father agreed (though in talking with him afterwards, he is not even sure what he agreed to). He said one reason he agreed, was the salesperson told him that they already had his credit card number, so he just thought he had agreed to something some time ago, but couldn't remember what it was.) When the authorization department called, he gave them authorization to charge his card, & asked for a phone number, etc. of who he was talking to. ( He got a company name, 800 number, & the amount the charge would be for, but not an individual's name.) I happened to be at his home helping him take care of some business at the time, & discussed what had just happened when he got off of the phone.

I IMMEDIATELY called the 800 number he had given me. I know he had spoken to a woman, & was given the run around for 20 minutes +. I had no success, & so I called back twice, only to find out that the sales person was Anthony, & the woman was from the authorization department. I told Anthony we did not want to sell. He put me on hold, & another man picked up.

I asked for the authorization department's phone number several times, explaining that my mother had passed away, & the estate had not yet been closed, & therefore, selling the property at this time was not even an option. I even offered to put my father on the phone so that he could cancel the authorization, and was told "NO!" The man got very nasty with me. He told me he "didn't give a SH** what you want," and "you don't have power of attorney, so you can't do anything about it." He then said that the authorization department was closed, AND that they couldn't accept any incoming calls, therefore, he could not contact them, either. When I told him that I didnt' believe him, he said that it closed at 12 PM. I found that hard to believe, since my father was called around 11:45 AM. I asked his name, and he told me it was Troy Martin. I then asked to speak to his supervisor, and he said, "I am the G**d*** supervisor." I asked for the name of the president, which he replied, "I am the president." After I was treated so unbelievably rudely, I raised my voice, and he told me he would disconnect the call if I continued to speak to him that way. I told him to never call my father's number again, and to be placed on the DO NOT CALL LIST. He refused to do so. When I asked again, he told me that he did not have the authority to put me on any phone list. Then in his nasty tone of voice, he said, "Have you ever heard of the Federal Do Not Call List? If you have a problem, then call it." (Frankly, I do not know if my parents were on it or not, but I had them added to it.) To make an even longer story short, I left my phone number, & got GLOBAL TIMESHARE's adddress.

Needless to say, it has been three days, and the authroization department has not called.

We have called my father's credit card company. They confirmed that the authorization was posted by the company at 11:50 AM....minutes of when he spoke with them. My father and I are filing FRAUD papers with the credit card company refuting the charges by Global Timeshare. I would be VERY WARY of their underhanded practices.
 

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I never heard of GTS, has anyone heard of Vacationsbuyowner ?
They called my wife and wanted money up front also to list our timeshares .
I am sceptical. I emailed them and they never responded. Any help ?
 

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He was very impressed with her sales pitch.


Of course he was impressed with the slaes pitch....that is how they make their money...not by selling your timeshare.

Don't do it.
 

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Being on the "Do not call" registry has no effect if you have a relationship with the company. Since they listed a still unsold week with them they would have every right to call. The rest is outrageous and every remedy to stop the charges should be used.
 

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raymodnp -

Please read carefully my post above. Then follow the directions in my second paragraph to an article that will tell you everything you need to know in order to answer your own question (and to avoid getting scammed!).
 

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Global Timeshare Stinks

Just to update you on the information. It is now December 28th, and I just received the confirmation information from Global Timeshares in the mail. Of course, my father's account was charged $850 on December 16th. I just received the confirmation letter in the mail which states (in VERY small print) that you can cancel your authorization within SEVEN days of their initial phone call to you if you provide written notification. The postmark on their envelope was DECEMBER 23rd. HMMMM, I believe they did not even send the information to us until the seventh day had passed. Pretty convenient, huh? javascript:emoticon('Twisted Evil')
Twisted Evil

Also, as I stated in the previous note, they had already contacted my parents last April, and posted an add for them. They have been paid twice now to sell the same timeshare. The add for the same timeshare is now posted on their website for two different prices. The add from last April has only been viewed 14 times, & I can guarentee that 6-8 of those times, it was viewed by me.

My parents were under the impression that they would sell the timeshare for them, but in the fine print, it states that Global Timeshares does not directly sell the timeshare, but will simply forward the information of any interested buyers to the seller. Any questions regarding the sale should be addressed with an attorney. Seems to me that they are making a killing by deceiving their customers.
 

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cosnva said:
Seems to me that they are making a killing by deceiving their customers.

That's exactly what most timeshare sales upfront-fee scammers do. Their only interest is in getting that upfront fee. There is no incentive for them to make any sales efforts. They then move on to their next victim. And, as you have seen, if they have a chance to charge a fee a second time, that's a bonus for them. If given a chance, they will likely charge your parents a third time.

None of what you have reported is news here. It has all been reported previously - numerous times.

A very few scammers have been arrested, convicted and sent to prison. But most of them operate for a while and when things get hot, they close up shop, move to a different city and open the same scamming operation under a new name.
 

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Hi Cosvna,
I realize that this is several months in the past now, but perhaps this will help another member.

If the company refuses to reverse the charge, immediately write letters to several places:
1. Your credit card and explain the situation. Remember to indicate that you asked to have the charge removed and that the company refused.
2. The company itself. Ask to have the charge reversed. Send this registered mail. It might take a bit of digging to find the address, but the credit card company generally has it. Also, include with the letter to the company copies of your letters to the #3 and #4 below.
3. The attorney general's office of your state. Explain the situation in detail. Explain that you tried to have the charges reversed during the rescind period, but were denied.
4. The attorney general's office of the state that the company is licensed to do business in. This might take a bit of digging to find.

You'd be surprised how fast things resolve when threatened with an action by the Attorney General's office.

Don't put up with this sort of bad behavior from these folks.
--TimeshareTraveller
 
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Be careful with these people, I have been snowed and hurt badly. i will not write a book but will if necessary. I think everyone needs to get together and file a lawsuit with this company. If we get enough peope together with their complaints, something can happen. No Judge will allow this. This is improper. If anyone wants to help me or can figure out a way that I can reach the president of Global Time Shares, PLEASE let me know.
 

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Here's something interesting to note (and it's been brought up before in conversations.) There are a number of companies out there with very similar names. Not saying one is good and one is bad but we should be careful about who we're talking about. I went online and noticed a web site for "Global Timeshare Solutions" and on their "about us" page, they state that they are members of the BBB. There is also a web site for "Global Timeshares" which appears to be a totally different company.

Cosvna, which company did your parents have dealings with? It could be different from the company that Rockaway45 is inquiring about.
 

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dbones said:
Cosvna, which company did your parents have dealings with? It could be different from the company that Rockaway45 is inquiring about.

Does it really matter? It's still a scam.
 

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Stefa said:
Does it really matter? It's still a scam.

My point was, the one company apparently has the stamp of the Better Business Bureau. That could mean the one company is not a scam. I have no idea or not, but there are companies out there that sell timeshares that are not scams.
 

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there are companies out there that sell timeshares that are not scams.

But these companies don't cold call people to ask if they have a timeshare they would like to sell and then offer to sell it for an upfront fee.
 

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Stefa said:
But these companies don't cold call people to ask if they have a timeshare they would like to sell and then offer to sell it for an upfront fee.

You do have a good point. I'm just surprised that if this particular copmpany runs a scam operation...how did they get the BBB's stamp of approval? I guess they could be lying about that as well.
 

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You have to actually be able to find the company on the local BBB website. All BBB's have their own websites that are www.denverbbb.org or the like. I have found some companies that claim they belong to the BBB really do not. There are some fake websites that claim to be associated with the BBB as well. Do not be fooled by such claims! It is a scam on top of a scam!
 

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rickandcindy23 said:
I have found some companies that claim they belong to the BBB really do not.
I agree.

There have also been reports here of timeshare scams that claim they are (1) recommended by TUG, (2) affiliated with RCI, (3) affiliated with Century 21 and/or (4) recommended by various famous personalities. Although some of those claims (not including #1 & #2) are true, that doesn't change the fact that they are scams.

If someone contacts you and asks for an upfront fee to sell or rent your week for you, possibly claiming they have a customer ready to buy/rent your week, it's a scam. Period.
 

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My husband is elderly and senile. In the past he has given nearly $1000.00 to two resale timeshare companies without my knowledge. He never heard from them and does not recall who they were.
A few months ago, I managed to intercept his making a deal with Global Timeshare Solutions. He was prepared to give them his credit card number for a fee of $695.00 as they told him they would sell our Hawaii timeshare for $18000.00 when we cannot even give it away. The man on the phone faxed him a copy of the alleged BBB certificate which I still have.
I took the phone from my husband and told the caller (nicely) that my husband was not capable of making these decisions and we were not interested. He became verbally abusive stating his business was not with me and to get off the phone. I again politely replied, "Thank you for calling but we are not interested."
He replied in a high pitched howling scream "YOU C--T" and slammed down the phone.
I do not believe these companies will do anything except post an ad on the Internet at a price so inflated that it will never attract interest.
Please be careful with your credit information. I spend a good part of each day trying to undo the charges my husband has made and I am not always successful.
 

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I think they post the ad in their magazine that has practically no circulation that is paid for.

I never saw such high priced time share weeks as those listed in their publication. I think thats how they can stay in 'business'. It proves attempts have been made to sell a $500 T/S for $12,000...and that the fees are justified.
 

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Even if they post the ad on the internet, a buyer can never get an offer through to a seller. I tried.

The first time I called about a particular unit, I asked if which season the floating unit was in. The reply was, "Oh, all seasons! You can reserve any time you want." No, you can't. That resort has seasons. So, I asked her to check on the season. The next question was "Do you want to give us a credit card number now as a deposit on the unit?"

Well, no, not until I understand what it is that I'm looking at. She said that she'd call the owner, and asked me for a contact phone number. I was very reluctant to give them one since I think they'll just use it for marketing. (They are, by the way. Our phone calls for timeshare sales scams have increased to almost a daily frenzy. Either a "sell it" or a recorded "you are notified that you've been given a vacation notification" whatever that means.)

So, 4 days pass. I call back. Any legitimate company would then have leaped on me as a Hot Lead. Not them. Took me a while to get it through the receptionist's head that I was not 1) Trying to get my money back from a sell-my-timeshare contract or 2) Wanting to sell my timeshare. They finally pass me to a fellow with a very heavy foreign accent (Indian or Middle Eastern). He heard me mention that I wanted information about a timeshare and instantly asked me which credit card do you want to use to put the downpayment on. Uh, no. Not so fast.

I asked about the season in that particular floating unit. He asked me my name, then started to ask me all of the same information that I'd been asked before. I asked him why he didn't look it up from the inquiry database (not that I know whether they have one or not. Looks like they don't.). He said that, "Oh, the computer system is down right now." I asked the season on the unit, told him who I'd been talking to, and asked to speak to them. "She's not here right now. We don't have that information about the unit." When I mentioned that she was going to call the owner, he said, "Don't you want that unit?" No, not without finding out what it is. He said, "but it's floating time. That means anytime." No, that unit has seasons in it's float. Then he wanted my phone number again. I refused to give it and told him I'd call the other sales person back.

Well, I called a third time. Any normal broker would have been working with me as an earnest lead by this point. Not these. The first sales lady told me that "I couldn't reach the owner." I asked if she thought that they'd respond in time or whether they had just vanished. "We're really not sure. These owners put things in and then just don't ever respond." Then she asked me for my name, phone number, and address again. And another request if I wanted to put a downpayment (for a timeshare that we can't even get an owner response on) on a credit card.

This is obviously a scam. A major one. I pity these folks. Even good leads can't get through to them through this rat's nest. And Global Timeshare Solutions doesn't really provide closing services, so why are they asking for money from the buyer? (yes, because they can) I'd bet money that they never even called the owner of that timeshare unit. They really have no interest in doing anything but running the boiler room in the back. I heard a half dozen simultaneous scripted phone calls buzzing in the background while I was talking to my "sales" person who probably is just another boiler room voice that is annoyed at me for pulling her away from the cold calling of potential clients.

So, that's my story of Global Timeshare Solutions. This set of interactions was only a short while ago. I held back posting until I was through dealing with them. They aren't real. Don't send them a dime.

--TimeshareTraveller
 

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For some time now< I've been pretty mad at the NJ Real Estate Commission rules.

One of the rules is that (this is only NJ) you can't sell third part RE without a RE Broker or their agent. In NJ, timeshare is considered Real Property....so a RE Agent/Broker must complete that type of sale.

I don't think that rule goes into Fl. I don't think those people are brokers. They just run an advertising outfit.

I guess I would now rather NJ keeps those RE Rules.
 

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Has anyone heard of or done business with this company? I received a call from them asking if I wanted to buy another week. When I told her I would prefer to sell my unit, she was interested and took down my info, gave me her's, and said she would get back to me after she checked out my timeshare.
 

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They will call you back and "guarantee" they can sell your timeshare for you at the price you want. All they will ask is for your credit card info so they can charge you an upfront fee of $695 (or something within about $200 of that).

A-A-A-R-R-R-G-G-G-H-H-H!

That's short ( :) ) for suggesting you read this linked thread, which will tell you all you need to know about Timeshare Global Solutions. Bottom line: Don't pay what they ask. Your payment will be a complete waste of money.

One suggestion you will see in the linked thread is to read the "how to sell" article located at the top of the list of topics for this Buying, Selling, Renting forum. The info in that article will give you what you need for a successful sale and will forever answer your questions about whether offers to help are legitimate or not!

Best of luck in your sales efforts!
 
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