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Here is the information from the email they sent today after I called:

Maintenance Fee: Must be and stay current until process is complete. Any paid fees are not refundable.

Documentation to return inventory: You understand that you will receive by email documentation to return your inventory. These documents must be signed, notarized, and returned within the number of days indicated on the documentation. Please keep in mind the sooner the documentation is returned the earlier the process may be completed.

Processing Timeframe: Processing timeframes are 6 to 8 weeks to complete the entire process and to receive a cancellation letter.

Title Issues: Discrepancies with owner recorded transfer deeds, issues with chain of title, missing documentation needed to record with deed to return inventory, proof of name changes, estate matters etc. and other changes that were not received by Wyndham Title department, may delay the processuntil proper documentation is received.

Ownership: You must own contract for at least 12 months

Third Party Financial Institution: Any portion of loan paid using a credit card or any other financial institution (PayPal, bank loan, mortgage equity or other) is of sole responsibility of owner accepting an Ovation option.

Reservations: All reservations will be canceled and points forfeited. You will be able to keep any secured reservation paid with Resort Condominium International (RCI).

New Travel reservations during Ovation process: In the event that you book a reservation during this process your request to return your inventory may be cancelled. In case you use your points/credits with Wyndham Destinations or one of its business partners (Travel, RCI, and others) during the process, your cancelation may be interrupted and you will have to wait until the next use year to participate in the Ovation program, once all points are available.

Points usage: Future year’s points must be unused or reservation must be canceled or point rental option is also available.

Multiple contracts: One acknowledgement per contract is required and must be returned.

Ovation by Wyndham offer: Program and inventory acceptance may change without notice. Any changes in the program, will not impact a case that is in process.
This is essentially what i was told.
I was not offered the three year free use.

What was key for me was the ability to keep confirmed exchanges with Interval International.

I will deposit my 2019 points this week to II and confirm exchanges. These points would expire 9/30/19. I currently have two confirmed exchanges in my II account for 2020 so will also confirm and EPlus the new deposits this week into 2021.

I was told it takes 8-10 weeks to get the paperwork and 4-6 weeks after I send them back to be completed. Until that time I pay my monthly maint fee. I was given a case number to reference if I need assistance.
 

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Was told my RCI points would be theirs. Are they talking about Wyndham RCI Account only? They won't touch my RCI Points account??? If anyone knows the answer, please let me know. I will Phone Monday if no one is sure. Thanks
 
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I called today, They answered in about 5 seconds. All my points qualify and I can use them for three years.
I big elephant in the room is, No Guest Confirmations. So no money and I can't rent the points out.
So, I am going to go to Pathways.
 

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Mailed my signed and notarized Ovation paperwork on 2 small contracts two weeks ago and the points are now gone from my Wyndham account (we kept two larger contracts). So it took two weeks (including mail time) for the contracts to exit my account - very fast turnaround.
 

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Was told my RCI points would be theirs. Are they talking about Wyndham RCI Account only? They won't touch my RCI Points account??? If anyone knows the answer, please let me know. I will Phone Monday if no one is sure. Thanks
I was told confirmed exchanges would be honored. So the trick would be to use all your deposits/points (confirmed exchanges) before you apply for the program.
 

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Reservations: All reservations will be canceled and points forfeited. You will be able to keep any secured reservation paid with Resort Condominium International (RCI).

New Travel reservations during Ovation process: In the event that you book a reservation during this process your request to return your inventory may be cancelled. In case you use your points/credits with Wyndham Destinations or one of its business partners (Travel, RCI, and others) during the process, your cancelation may be interrupted and you will have to wait until the next use year to participate in the Ovation program, once all points are available.

Points usage: Future year’s points must be unused or reservation must be canceled or point rental option is also available.
I want to start the Ovation process. I paid my 2020 maintenance fee for my unit. I own an old Wyndham (Fairfield) fixed week unit that I never converted to points. My unit is a lockout so I always deposit each side separately to various timeshare exchange companies. I deposited my 2020 unit with one side of the lockout going to RCI and deposited the other side of the lockout unit into Trading Places. I also have a number of TPUs with RCI from previous years deposits.

But I'm confused by the wording of the Ovation paperwork (attached above). Will I lose all (or any) of my RCI TPU's when I give back my timeshare to Wyndham? Do I need to book something with them before I start the Ovation process? I paid my RCI membership five years in advance and that doesn't expire until 2021.

Thanks!
 

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I want to start the Ovation process. I paid my 2020 maintenance fee for my unit. I own an old Wyndham (Fairfield) fixed week unit that I never converted to points. My unit is a lockout so I always deposit each side separately to various timeshare exchange companies. I deposited my 2020 unit with one side of the lockout going to RCI and deposited the other side of the lockout unit into Trading Places. I also have a number of TPUs with RCI from previous years deposits.

But I'm confused by the wording of the Ovation paperwork (attached above). Will I lose all (or any) of my RCI TPU's when I give back my timeshare to Wyndham? Do I need to book something with them before I start the Ovation process? I paid my RCI membership five years in advance and that doesn't expire until 2021.

Thanks!
You do not have a corporate RCI account. Wyndham can't reach into your account. The information was for Wyndham points owners that have rci memberships paid for through their program fees paid to Wyndham. Those accounts basically go poof when ovation is begun.

Did they accept your unit and send you the paperwork?
 

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You do not have a corporate RCI account. Wyndham can't reach into your account. The information was for Wyndham points owners that have rci memberships paid for through their program fees paid to Wyndham. Those accounts basically go poof when ovation is begun.

Did they accept your unit and send you the paperwork?
Thanks for the clarification. I plan to call Ovations soon, just didn’t want to start the process if I thought I needed to book my exchanges first. I’m assuming (hopefully) that they will accept my unit. My brother and I each inherited our Wyndham Fairfield Timeshares and they accepted his week.
 

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You do not have a corporate RCI account. Wyndham can't reach into your account. The information was for Wyndham points owners that have rci memberships paid for through their program fees paid to Wyndham. Those accounts basically go poof when ovation is begun.
actually they don’t go puff until the RCI/II reservations that are in place are completed.
see /abbekit post above.

“Reservations: All reservations will be canceled and points forfeited. You will be able to keep any secured reservation paid with Resort Condominium International (RCI)”
 

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actually they don’t go puff until the RCI/II reservations that are in place are completed.
see /abbekit post above.

“Reservations: All reservations will be canceled and points forfeited. You will be able to keep any secured reservation paid with Resort Condominium International (RCI)”
While the reservations can still be used, the rci account and all access to make any changes cease.
 

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While the reservations can still be used, the rci account and all access to make any changes cease.
Yes, you are correct. I started ovations last fall and then cancelled because I hadn’t made My current II resies With last years points.
I just completed them this weekend so I will call again this coming week. Will post how I make out.
 

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While the reservations can still be used, the rci account and all access to make any changes cease.
You will lose your RCI login through Wyndham but can still phone in. The RCI account stays active for a few months after the Wyndham account is gone. Not sure how long but mine was active for over four months. All reservations were honored after the transfer out of Wyndham. Points deposited into RCI were transferred to another Wyndham owner before RCI account was closed out.
 

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You will lose your RCI login through Wyndham but can still phone in. The RCI account stays active for a few months after the Wyndham account is gone. Not sure how long but mine was active for over four months. All reservations were honored after the transfer out of Wyndham. Points deposited into RCI were transferred to another Wyndham owner before RCI account was closed out.
That is because you access RCI thru the Wyndham website I imagine? My Wyndham II account is access not thru a portal but as a stand alone account so I should not lose access. I emailed myself all my confirmations and screen shot the pages just in case.

Called Wyndham today and started the process again.
will post when I receive the paperwork
 

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That is because you access RCI thru the Wyndham website I imagine? My Wyndham II account is access not thru a portal but as a stand alone account so I should not lose access. I emailed myself all my confirmations and screen shot the pages just in case.

Called Wyndham today and started the process again.
will post when I receive the paperwork
Yes I was refering to a RCI account accessed through Wyndham website.
 

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You do not have a corporate RCI account. Wyndham can't reach into your account. The information was for Wyndham points owners that have rci memberships paid for through their program fees paid to Wyndham. Those accounts basically go poof when ovation is begun.

Did they accept your unit and send you the paperwork?
Thanks for the clarification. I plan to call Ovations soon, just didn’t want to start the process if I thought I needed to book my exchanges first. I’m assuming (hopefully) that they will accept my unit. My brother and I each inherited our Wyndham Fairfield Timeshares and they accepted his week.

Called Ovations today and they will take my Wyndham Pagosa week. It is still a Weeks contract, I never converted to points. I clarified the clause in the letter (they sent me while still on the phone with the rep) that my weeks deposited with RCI (and TPI) are not affected by the Ovations give-back since I have a personally paid for RCI account, not a Wyndham account paid via my ownership with them.

It was a quick, easy and actually pleasant conversation with the Wyndham rep. So hoping the process goes smoothly. Rather sad to be giving up my ownership in a way because we've enjoyed 20 years of exchanges (and my parents enjoyed a number of years using and exchanging prior to me inheriting it from them). But the difficulty in getting exchanges in recent years, high increases in MF and our changing travel habits (taking our dogs with us now) has makes it necessary to be done with ownership. Still plan to keep my timeshare exchange company accounts and hopefully take advantage of rentals.
 
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