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Georgia: Some Businesses Allowed to ReOpen

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Most large companies also require this of their suppliers. My company is required to run background checks for 7 years and drug testing for personnel that may work or hold meetings on-site. We have a third party provider that takes care of this for us.
 

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As I understand, the re-opening of the states will be done in phases, not all at once nor will it be a “forced” re-opening. I will not re-open my office even if the state allows me to do so. Businesses can choose when and how to re-open based on their individual issues and employee concerns. Many large companies are re-opening in phases and taking individual needs into considerations.

A lot of the issues you mentioned are already issues for essential businesses. Millions of essential businesses have operated with these risks since the shut downs started. How have they dealt with your questions?

I honestly don’t know and wasn’t expecting anybody here to have the answers. My point is this isn’t as simple as just reopening, even in phases. There are so many details that need to be worked out and protections to be put into place to do this half heartedly. I’m my opinion, it shouldn’t be rushed and the safety of those are compromised need to be taken in account. These are the discussions that need to take place as we are planning to reopen our society.
 

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most here would not be aware of this, during the 1990's my Navy reserve squadron made anthrax vaccines MANDATORY and we lost many great highly trained Pilots because they didn't Want to risk their highly paid airline ✈ jobs with a bad reaction to the anthrax vaccine. The risks are real and especially high with new vaccines. So use at your own risk if a CV-19 vaccine becomes available. :-\
 

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Yep, forgot about that. When I was an executive in Corporate America I was required to have one every year.
I was never an executive but I worked at a Fortune 100 company and had to have one for probably my first 30 years. The company had it’s own doctors on staff and scheduled the appointment for you. A few years before I retired they stopped it and eliminated the medical department as a cost cutting measure.
 

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This connected some dots I hadn't seen before. The notion that comorbidities or obesity instead of age drive Covid-19 complications and death is intriguing. Older people tend to have these conditions. It also may explain why some younger people also have complications.


(P.S. I know this is an opinion piece but the authors appear legit and different from the usual suspects. It's early data, I am going to stick a pin in it and see how the data evolves. )
 
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This connected some dots I hadn't seen before. The notion that comorbidities or obesity instead of age drive Covid-19 complications and death is intriguing. Older people tend to have these conditions. It also may explain why some younger people also have complications.


(P.S. I know this is an opinion piece but the authors appear legit and different from the usual suspects. It's early data, I am going to stick a pin in it and see how the data evolves. )

I actually like opinion pieces. I know they are frowned upon on TUG but I learn a lot from reading different opinion pieces. Also many opinion pieces include facts within them and then I can look up the studies or google to verify the facts.

In terms of comorbidities or obesity being the driver of covid-19 complications rather than than age, this has been suggested for a while.
 

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It is imperative that at the very least, we should start this conversation now.I

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For those who fall into the known 'at risk' categories, it seems like a continued and possibly enhanced SIP could be in order. (Not referring to a few of our TUG members who couldn't add any additional enhancements to their current SIP).
 

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I actually like opinion pieces. I know they are frowned upon on TUG but I learn a lot from reading different opinion pieces. Also many opinion pieces include facts within them and then I can look up the studies or google to verify the facts.

In terms of comorbidities or obesity being the driver of covid-19 complications rather than than age, this has been suggested for a while.

yes, but opinion pieces are often "click bait" !
sure, they include some facts but be skeptical, (I usually avoid clicking opinion / editorial articles)
 

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Heck, even to volunteer at my childrens' elementary school I had to present negative results of a tuberculosis test.
I forgot about that - I had to have TB test before the hospital job although I did not work in the hospital, merely a building near main campus.
 

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yes, but opinion pieces are often "click bait" !
sure, they include some facts but be skeptical, (I usually avoid clicking opinion / editorial articles)

But it is no different than reading TUG. We are all just sharing our opinions. I like reading different points of view by different authors. As long as you know the difference between opinions and news, then opinion pieces and editorials broaden one’s thinking.
 

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I actually like opinion pieces. I know they are frowned upon on TUG but I learn a lot from reading different opinion pieces.
I think it is a minority that are frowners.

Post whatever you want, people can sort through it themselves. I like hearing new ideas, new theories. I can't know who might read it and have it spark the idea that saves us all. One can hope!
 

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I actually like opinion pieces. I know they are frowned upon on TUG but I learn a lot from reading different opinion pieces. Also many opinion pieces include facts within them and then I can look up the studies or google to verify the facts.
Agree, opinion pieces can be helpful when they are written by experts that connect research dots that a regular reporter might not see in the day- to-day grind of publishing the news.

As we all know, the problem is that many (not all) opinion pieces have become cherry-picking tools to promote a partisan or lobbying interest. Many people don't recognize the difference and interpret it as factual news. This is a problem with evening cable TV "news" and talking head panels. When I hear a politicians name and "they did right" or they did wrong" that's an easy tell that it is opinion.

I agree that there are some hidden gems on the opinion pages from reputable news outlets if you take time to cull the wheat from the chaff. I also appreciate opinions by Tuggers.
 
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Agree, opinion pieces can be helpful when they are written by experts that connect research dots that a regular reporter might not see in the day to day grind of publishing the news.

As we all know, the problem is that many (not all) opinion pieces have become cherry-picking tools to promote a partisan or lobbying interest. Many people don't recognize the difference and interpret it as factual news. This is a problem with evening cable TV "news" and talking head panels. When I hear a politicians name and "they did right" or they did wrong" that's an easy tell that it is opinion.

I agree that there are some hidden gems on the opinion pages from reputable news outlets if you take time to cull the wheat from the chaff. I also appreciate opinions by Tuggers.

OK
I'll still caution people to click on "opinion" articles -- yes, the 24/7 cable news channels are mostly opinion (or a lot of it)
 

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I'll still caution people to click on "opinion" articles -- yes, the 24/7 cable news channels are mostly opinion (or a lot of it)

Yay, we actually swayed your opinion on opinion pieces just a little bit. I agree that you need to read opinion pieces with caution. Many people do not know the difference between opinions and news. Also, like @CalGalTraveler said, many opinion pieces are political in nature but, if you are even slightly informed, you can tell if it is one of those pretty easily. It doesn't mean it is not interesting, it just means proceed with a lot of caution.
 

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....Many people don't recognize the difference and interpret it as factual news. ...

Yes. But this problem existed long ago and none of us can fix that. When I was a kid, I didn't understand that there was a difference between the morning paper and the evening paper. I thought we all got the same news and that except for the opinion page, it should be considered to be reliable. Reliability and credibility can be much harder to suss out these days, but, as usual, consult multiple sources, maintain skepticism. Questioning is not a bad thing.

In grade school, I recall a full two weeks talking about propaganda, mostly as concerned advertising. Advertising on tv was accessible to all of us. And the topic was right there in our text books, too. I don't think reading for comprehension is necessarily a thing anymore, nor do I think most have the attention to read an entire anything. Social media has exacerbated the "tell me what to think" problem for those vulnerable to it, imo.
 

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Yay, we actually swayed your opinion on opinion pieces just a little bit. I agree that you need to read opinion pieces with caution. Many people do not know the difference between opinions and news. Also, like @CalGalTraveler said, many opinion pieces are political in nature but, if you are even slightly informed, you can tell if it is one of those pretty easily. It doesn't mean it is not interesting, it just means proceed with a lot of caution.
Opinion pieces can be thoughtful interpretation of facts from perspectives I had not considered. Or can be spin, playing fast and loose with facts, like, not the entire fact, just the part of it that fits my narrative. Like our current "case" fact. Well, sure, cases are indeed positive instances of coronavirus. But we should not take that to be All instances of coronavirus. A Case itself is a fact, but the fact set is incomplete. It is not clear to me that we all agree with that but it seems obvious to me.

An article that assumes that only all confirmed positive cases are instances, that none exist today outside of today's confirmed positives, is going to lose me fast.
 

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....Many people don't recognize the difference and interpret it as factual news. ...

Yes. But this problem existed long ago and none of us can fix that. When I was a kid, I didn't understand that there was a difference between the morning paper and the evening paper. I thought we all got the same news and that except for the opinion page, it should be considered to be reliable. Reliability and credibility can be much harder to suss out these days, but, as usual, consult multiple sources, maintain skepticism. Questioning is not a bad thing.

In grade school, I recall a full two weeks talking about propaganda, mostly as concerned advertising. Advertising on tv was accessible to all of us. And the topic was right there in our text books, too. I don't think reading for comprehension is necessarily a thing anymore, nor do I think most have the attention to read an entire anything. Social media has exacerbated the "tell me what to think" problem for those vulnerable to it, imo.

I agree, social media is replacing journalism :(
and consult multiple sources and be skeptical reading editorials / opinion and watching 24/7 cable news shows
 

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I work for a fortune 500 software company. They mentioned there may be testing before we return to the office. Not sure if that would be mandatory or voluntary.

Either way I will do it if offered
 

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Today I decided to take a ride to see which stores opened near me in SC and to see how many of the cars were from NC, 15 minutes away, as NC still is closed.

The stores that I saw opened in our large shopping center were Hobby Lobby, Dollar Store and Petco. Closed were Burlington, Kirkland, TJ Maxx, Homegoods, Ross, Ultra, Five Below, and Rack Room Shoes.

The parking area in front of open stores was filled. No lines outside the store so they were in the stores. With 5 people per 1000 feet allowed or 20% of occupancy, whichever is less, it seemed the guidelines were not being followed.

Of the cars in the parking lot approximately 1/2 had North Carolina License plates.

My area in SC had stabilized while the bordering area in NC is still increasing. My concern is happening, the stores being opened will bring people into our area that can and most probably will give us a spread and higher number of virus cases then we had.
 

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I walked Charleston's King Street shopping district today. Came across some art galleries open along with a few privately owned boutiques. National chains were closed. Other boutiques have sent emails and have signs on their doors that they are not going to open yet even though they can. I saw no shoppers in any shop I could see into. Most people on the sidewalks were just taking a walk, walking their dogs, or bicycling by. Only about half were wearing masks.
 
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