Fourth Covid jab can give higher immunity than initial booster, study finds

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Fourth Covid jab can give higher immunity than
initial booster, study finds

Fourth Covid jab can give higher immunity than initial booster, study finds

UK-based team finds antibodies peaked higher after fourth jab given after gap of more than six months than after third

www.theguardian.com

Richard

 

[MULTIZ321]

New study released on 4th COVID vaccine dose

New study released on 4th COVID vaccine dose

New data shows that antibodies surge several weeks after receiving the fourth dose. ABC News' Dr. Jen Ashton explains how long they might last.

www.goodmorningamerica.com

Richard

 

[Brett]

I got a second booster - 4th covid "jab"

 

[nerodog]

Will have to visit USA for this booster as it's only for over 80 yrs here and compromised individuals.

 

[moonstone]

We got our 4th jab about a month ago. Our first shot (in Belize in March 2020) was AstraZeneca. When we got home (Ontario Canada) we got Pfizer for our next 2 shots (our first and 2nd as far as our local health unit is concerned since they wouldn't recognize our Belize shots), then this last booster was Moderna. So now we've had all the major ones. When I got my booster I had a Dr not a nurse giving me mine, and she said studies have shown that the Moderna is very effective against the new variant that has been running rampant at home. We are currently on vacation in Williamsburg VA and still masking up due to my recent chemo treatments, but I feel safer knowing we have all those boosters.


~Diane

 

[easyrider]

New study released on 4th COVID vaccine dose

New study released on 4th COVID vaccine dose

New data shows that antibodies surge several weeks after receiving the fourth dose. ABC News' Dr. Jen Ashton explains how long they might last.

www.goodmorningamerica.com

Richard

You guys realize this 4th booster may cause auto imune disease. That is what Dr Jen is talking about.

Bill

 

[bluehende]

You guys realize this 4th booster may cause auto imune disease. That is what Dr Jen is talking about.

Bill

More antivax nonsense

 

[dougp26364]

I heard it can cause a third testicle to descend on uncircumcised males who suffer from male pattern baldness.

 

[Brett]

More antivax nonsense

it never ends

 

[Talent312]

You guys realize this 4th booster may cause auto immune disease.

My auto has a natural immunity.
,

 

[MdRef]

In other words, pick your poison.

Seriously, Why Not Get a Fourth Shot?

The FDA and CDC have cleared the way for Americans older than 50 to get a second booster shot—but they don’t quite suggest that everyone in that age group should do so. Like masking and many other pandemic-control measures, a fourth dose (or third, for the J&Jers in the back) is now a matter of personal judgment, even as another wave of COVID cases seems poised to break. That leaves millions of Americans and their doctors to perform their own risk-benefit analysis.

Seriously, Why Not Get a Fourth Shot?

The risks from over-boosting are very small.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[easyrider]

More antivax nonsense

Dr Jen said that taking the booster without knowing what level of antibody a person has can cause a "tolerance" which means the booster would give more antibodies but could exhaust your t-cells. Exhausted t cells replicate into exhausted t cells. Basically, a person taking a booster with a high level of antibodies could experience more protection in the short term but no protection after the antibodies wane. Autoimmune disease is when your immune system isn't working properly and either attacks or fails to protect your physiology.

Bill

 

[Ralph Sir Edward]

Shrug. . . Or you can "fort up" again. I'm already on the early legs of "forting up" again. Wearing a respirator in "at risk" situations, not eating out, buying in bulk (with few store trips) and a few other things. Hawaii in September? Last minute decision. . .

Reported cases are up from just under 30,000/day a couple months ago to 98,000+ last Thursday. Steadily climbing curve.

To each their own. . .

 

[emeryjre]

Bill Gates is now begging me to install Windows 11. With each dose he gets more insistent. I guess the nano particles increase

 

[Roger830]

Bill Gates is now begging me to install Windows 11. With each dose he gets more insistent. I guess the nano particles increase

Perhaps it offers more protection from the covid virus.

 

[bluehende]

Dr Jen said that taking the booster without knowing what level of antibody a person has can cause a "tolerance" which means the booster would give more antibodies but could exhaust your t-cells. Exhausted t cells replicate into exhausted t cells. Basically, a person taking a booster with a high level of antibodies could experience more protection in the short term but no protection after the antibodies wane. Autoimmune disease is when your immune system isn't working properly and either attacks or fails to protect your physiology.

Bill

I like data that does not come from youtube antivax maybe can happen. You do realize that these types of reactions would have shown up with hundreds of millions of 4th doses given worldwide. Again looked at by every national agency in the world, but man that youtube untrained Dr. First Name discovered it while thousands of people trained did not. Or maybe she understands she gets views and cash from the gullible.

 

[easyrider]

I like data that does not come from youtube antivax maybe can happen. You do realize that these types of reactions would have shown up with hundreds of millions of 4th doses given worldwide. Again looked at by every national agency in the world, but man that youtube untrained Dr. First Name discovered it while thousands of people trained did not. Or maybe she understands she gets views and cash from the gullible.

You are speaking of pro-vaxx Dr Jen from ABC's Good Morning America reporting information from the Lancett. So how she is anti-vaxx ?

Bill

 

[bluehende]

You are speaking of pro-vaxx Dr Jen from ABC's Good Morning America reporting information from the Lancett. So how she is anti-vaxx ?

Bill

Simple....blaming a vaccine for something it does not do is anti vax. No matter how much you protest. If there is real data from a real source then present it.

 

[MdRef]

Let me take a shot Bill. "bluehende" is always fun to "toy" with. I can assure you that, if he feels as though he may be wrong, he will deflect, deflect and oh yea, deflect.


As for DR. Jennifer Ashton. She received her medical degree from Columbia College of Physicians and Surgeons in 2000. In 2016, she received her master's degree in nutrition from Columbia University.


As for, new-onset autoimmune phenomena.

Recently, new-onset autoimmune phenomena after COVID-19 vaccination have been reported increasingly (e.g. immune thrombotic thrombocytopenia, autoimmune liver diseases, Guillain-Barré syndrome, IgA nephropathy, rheumatoid arthritis and systemic lupus erythematosus). Molecular mimicry, the production of particular autoantibodies and the role of certain vaccine adjuvants seem to be substantial contributors to autoimmune phenomena. However, whether the association between COVID-19 vaccine and autoimmune manifestations is coincidental or causal remains to be elucidated.

New-onset autoimmune phenomena post-COVID-19 vaccination - PubMed

Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) has led to an unprecedented setback for global economy and health. Vaccination is one of the most effective interventions to substantially reduce severe disease and death due to...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Frequent Boosters Spur Warning on Immune Response

Frequent Boosters Spur Warning on Immune Response

European Union regulators warned that frequent Covid-19 booster shots could adversely affect the immune response and may not be feasible.

www.bloomberg.com

Everyone needs as much information as we can gather on this while it's being studied but, the final decision rests with each person. You want the shot and disavow this risk, by all means, do so. I happen to believe that with, booster after booster after booster, you're tempting a fate that unlike Covid, none of us has any idea whatsoever of the damage, if any, being caused to our body, only to show up months or years from now.

Place your trust where you want and good luck.

 

[bluehende]

Let me take a shot Bill. "bluehende" is always fun to "toy" with. I can assure you that, if he feels as though he may be wrong, he will deflect, deflect and oh yea, deflect.


As for DR. Jennifer Ashton. She received her medical degree from Columbia College of Physicians and Surgeons in 2000. In 2016, she received her master's degree in nutrition from Columbia University.


As for, new-onset autoimmune phenomena.

Recently, new-onset autoimmune phenomena after COVID-19 vaccination have been reported increasingly (e.g. immune thrombotic thrombocytopenia, autoimmune liver diseases, Guillain-Barré syndrome, IgA nephropathy, rheumatoid arthritis and systemic lupus erythematosus). Molecular mimicry, the production of particular autoantibodies and the role of certain vaccine adjuvants seem to be substantial contributors to autoimmune phenomena. However, whether the association between COVID-19 vaccine and autoimmune manifestations is coincidental or causal remains to be elucidated.

New-onset autoimmune phenomena post-COVID-19 vaccination - PubMed

Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) has led to an unprecedented setback for global economy and health. Vaccination is one of the most effective interventions to substantially reduce severe disease and death due to...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Frequent Boosters Spur Warning on Immune Response

Frequent Boosters Spur Warning on Immune Response

European Union regulators warned that frequent Covid-19 booster shots could adversely affect the immune response and may not be feasible.

www.bloomberg.com

Everyone needs as much information as we can gather on this while it's being studied but, the final decision rests with each person. You want the shot and disavow this risk, by all means, do so. I happen to believe that with, booster after booster after booster, you're tempting a fate that unlike Covid, none of us has any idea whatsoever of the damage, if any, being caused to our body, only to show up months or years from now.

Place your trust where you want and good luck.

From your bombshell

In addition, most of the included literature were case reports or cross-sectional studies, showing only a temporal association.

Look up what that means.

also

The current issues are as follows: first, clinicians should apply four basic principles to evaluate causal associations between the administration of COVID-19 vaccines and autoimmune phenomena, including the consistency, strength, specificity of the link and the temporal relation [19]; second, we should compare the degree of vaccine-related risk with the corresponding natural infection-associated risk for the whole population or a specific subgroup; and third, appropriate epidemiological studies and animal models are warranted to identify the exact causality and elucidate the underlying biological mechanisms.

You again showed a paper describing a few cases. No normalization of data (seems common among the antivaxxers). And zero.....repeat zero evidence that it is caused by a vaccine. Your own study admits they have no clue if the incidence of auto immune disease is higher in the vaccinated group than the unvaccinated group and that APPROPRIATE stuies are warranted.

 

[MdRef]

"Bombshell"? Au contraire Monsieur.

Just as said. Deflection is your primary language.

Anyway, just a few articles from leading sources describing this unwanted possibility. I do understand by doing so, I dared to challenge the self appointed Minister of Covid Vaccine facts. You must understand, if anyone decides that he or she wants this booster or any booster, that's their choice. I'm no physician or scientist and have never played one on T.V. They should have any and all information, either good or bad. Not have it dismissed right off as, "youtube antivax".

As I have stated over and over, I'll pass. What unwanted health conditions this constant over boostering may present in the future, not one single person knows for sure. If you'll pardon me, I'll let you get back to the "facts" as you see them in this case.

 

[emeryjre]

"Bombshell"? Au contraire Monsieur.

Just as said. Deflection is your primary language.

Anyway, just a few articles from leading sources describing this unwanted possibility. I do understand by doing so, I dared to challenge the self appointed Minister of Covid Vaccine facts. You must understand, if anyone decides that he or she wants this booster or any booster, that's their choice. I'm no physician or scientist and have never played one on T.V. They should have any and all information, either good or bad. Not have it dismissed right off as, "youtube antivax".

As I have stated over and over, I'll pass. What unwanted health conditions this constant over boostering may present in the future, not one single person knows for sure. If you'll pardon me, I'll let you get back to the "facts" as you see them in this case.

Will you answer one question for me. Where do you stand on vaccination. Maybe I missed a statement from you in other threads, Have you been vaccinated and boosted?

 

[bluehende]

"Bombshell"? Au contraire Monsieur.

Just as said. Deflection is your primary language.

Anyway, just a few articles from leading sources describing this unwanted possibility. I do understand by doing so, I dared to challenge the self appointed Minister of Covid Vaccine facts. You must understand, if anyone decides that he or she wants this booster or any booster, that's their choice. I'm no physician or scientist and have never played one on T.V. They should have any and all information, either good or bad. Not have it dismissed right off as, "youtube antivax".

As I have stated over and over, I'll pass. What unwanted health conditions this constant over boostering may present in the future, not one single person knows for sure. If you'll pardon me, I'll let you get back to the "facts" as you see them in this case.

Deflection by quoting your post....lmfao. Your normal response to say goodbye when your BS is pointed out to you. Why not discuss how your own posted study says there is no link to vaccines. Deflection....not hardly.

Information...... yes........antivax rhetoric....not so much. The type posted here is youtube nonsense whether antivax or any other misinformation. Again for the hundredth time. Show a problem that has been normalized with what would be expected in a normal population with a statistically valid increase. That is what means there is a problem.

Again nothing you posted is information of a vaccine response. It is a notice to look deeper. That is something that is done over and over again and nothing is found. True scientists that play one every day for 8 hrs look at this stuff daily. Billions of shots given with some as long as 2 yrs ago and not one of the multitude of worldwide health agencies that have those non tv playing scientists have found it. Explain that.

 

[Zac495]

I had my 4th jab (2nd booster after 2 Moderna). Recommended for those with blood cancer and those 50 and older.
What minor side effects might happen - I do not want to get severe covid. I actually got it in January (had one booster at the time). It was like a mild flu. Who knows what it would have been like without the shots? Shudder.

 

[davidvel]

You guys realize this 4th booster may cause auto imune disease. That is what Dr Jen is talking about.

Bill

You do realize that a doctor told me that the 4th booster causes men over 50 to become extremely potent in bed, makes them "bigger" and allows multiple performances a day, and every guy I know says it happened to him, right?