Just be aware that the 3rd bedroom is really for kids only; and small kids. There's a king upstairs, and a Q down which are both fine. The 3rd bedroom is small; imagine a closet that you put a couple of bunk beds in. If you don't need the extra beds, the 2 BR is a better option. However, for value, the studios up on the hill are the best bets.
Thank you for the information on the third bedroom. Just happen to get offered today the two bedroom as well for basically the same days. I think we’re just going to need to take both but happy just to try those.
PM me. Maybe you or anyone who wants to trade and save the exchange costs of Club Pass or II or RCI can work something out. And obviously if someone wants to exchange more that 9 months in advance through Club Pass.OK - I'm officially going to start using the Club Pass availability search for Wyndham Granby based upon your feedback here. Sounds like a great place!
I found it odd that this turned this into a trading vacations and/or renting Worldmarks discussion. Probably belonged in one of the Mega Renter Threads.
Great idea thanks for doing that. I am not a mega renter and still interested in the thread.
So sorry to hear that. I appreciate you taking the time to answer questions.
Just a question to hopefully bring this thread back on track. For someone who wants to buy retail so they can go VIP, what negotiating tactics would you recommend? I see so many people MSRP or close to it, because they don't want to haggle. I don't like it either, so any tips to speed up the negotiation process might help those who want to buy, but don't want to pay full price.
Also what is the lowest $/point you’ve ever seen sold from a developer purchase
The cheapest way to buy retail is possible at 2 Locations. Wyndham Fairfield Glade (Crossville, TN) or any Myrtle Beach sales center. The reason why is because they have a "Piggyback" List, which is where they sell owners deeded properties (Deeded at Fairfield Glade or Myrtle Beach) to you, but you have to buy Developer points as well. So basically you would buy 126,000 at MSRP, but then you could buy you one off the list for very cheap. They usually only let you buy up to same amount of retail points you purchased, but sometimes they'll let you buy more. They treat it as a BOGO deal pretty much and since they do the transfer it all counts as VIP, not resale. A couple things though. 1. The MF on those old deeded properties are usually stupid high. 2. They only reason they have those listed is because they screwed someone over and told them if they bought, they would sell those Deeded properties and that would offset the purchase cost to get a lower MF. In summary, technically you could buy this way and almost spend a 1/3 of MSRP, but someone, somewhere got screwed either way.
See my reply to Richelle about the "Piggyback" List I just posted. If I had to put it into dollar amounts I'd say for example, if someone bought 126,000 at $239 p/1,000 that's about $30,000. Then I've seen people buy a 126,000 off the list for $5,000. So they technically got 252,000 points for $35k so about $140 p/1,000. The other thing about it is though, say the rep did tell the owner who is selling the property that they would list it for $5,000. They don't find out until day that someone goes to buy it that there is a minimum $1,500 fee that goes to the broker for doing the transaction, so that owner that was told he would get $5,000 only gets $3,500 back. That goes back to the "Piggyback" reply.
Maybe. I was hoping he would leave and not come back.
In 2015, I purchased a "Piggyback" deed from a list at Ocean Ridge worth 413,000 points for $16,500. I had to buy Developer points worth 64,000 for $13,500. They said I could make another Piggyback purchase within 30 days of this purchase with no additional Developer purchase. So, I made another small Piggyback purchase of 77,000 for $3,500. Both Piggybacks had very reasonable MF. (I double-checked the contracts before posting this to make sure the amounts were correct.)
Fairfield Glade is still doing the Piggyback List. They use it to build urgency so if you keep saying no, they will let you buy more Piggyback than developer. They had a 308,000 on the list for around $15k as of a few months ago still too.
I just talked to an acquaintance at Edisto and he confirmed they quit selling those. Thanks for letting me know. He said there were too many complaints and issues about the buying and selling process that were escalated so they lost their privilege.
I know Sedona sells Flagstaff Piggybacks. The maintenance fees are not great but they are right in line with CWA. I would assume Flaggstaff sells those piggybacks as well. You do have to buy regular points of course. I heard 200k, but I am sure they might make an exception here and there depending on the situation and time of year/month.
Depends on the season. My Flagstaff converted week (prime at 182k) was great before 2 years of double digit increases, and even now is $1.30/k lower than CWA.
They do track how many you attend but that's mainly to track Sales Closing percentages. They'll never stop offering either because it's always an opportunity to sell. "I've got the exact amount of points I need" is a common objection I've overcame and sold to many times. Also, sold people who hadn't bought in 20+ years. That's why they'll never stop gifting you.