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If resorts charge daily fees when people trade into resort to our deposited use weeks that are entitled to the activities these fees are for are decreasing the value of our deposits. I will not trade into a resort that charges these fees. Since this practice decrease the value of our deposit such fees should be credited to owner of entitlement account.
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I think you have a great point. I won't choose Hilton or Diamond resorts anywhere on the mainland because of the resort fees. Paying $175 per day to get nothing special is ridiculous.
Four Seasons has a daily fee but has daily housekeeping. Disney's fee covers parking at the theme parks, which is great for those who don't have annual passes. We already have parking included with our AP's, but Disney provides a bus to/from the parks as well. What does Hilton SeaWorld do for $175 per week in fees? Nothing.
The Diamond resorts that are now Hilton branded, same thing. Unless I find a Hilton for 10 TPU's or less, I am not staying there over Disney over Marriott (with II).
I don't know about Four Seasons, but I think DVC gets by with the fees because they give us transportation to/from the parks & Disney Springs which is above and beyond the amenities a typical resort might offer. At least that is why I don't mind paying for it.
I don't know about Four Seasons, but I think DVC gets by with the fees because they give us transportation to/from the parks & Disney Springs which is above and beyond the amenities a typical resort might offer. At least that is why I don't mind paying for it.
I have also heard that the DVC is used to part fund the II exchange fees for DVC owners, so it does go back to owners in that form, which is an excellent idea .
DVC, Hyatt and Four seasons are resorts that I'd happily pay the resort fee as I et good value relative to my deposit. Hilton, probably not unless it was in a location that I didn't have an alternative I wanted to use.
If resorts charge daily fees when people trade into resort to our deposited use weeks that are entitled to the activities these fees are for are decreasing the value of our deposits. I will not trade into a resort that charges these fees. Since this practice decrease the value of our deposit such fees should be credited to owner of entitlement account.
That does seem like a good point. You should bring that up with the HOA or POA. Perhaps that will make a difference, but if people are willing to pay it, then I assume they will vote/decide to keep charging it. Good point though.
I generally don't agree with these added fees and avoid exchanges where the fees apply. Many people look at the total cost of their exchange vs. what they would reasonably expect to pay for the same resort and week with cash. Or perhaps they compare the total of what they pay to the total maintenance fees of the exchange they get. I think most people would prefer not to pay them but they are what they are and they really can't do anything about it. So, they need to determine if their all-in costs are justified.
We've done DVC exchanges. The fee provides us no benefit as we don't use transportation and we have APs and get parking included already. Even with the fee we come out way ahead of paying cash for the same room or renting an equivalent DVC reservation from an owner. That said, if it weren't for exchanges, we wouldn't otherwise stay in DVC as we wouldn't pay cash rental rates. Not from Disney directly and not from an owner.
It would take a lot to get us to exchange into a HGVC or HVC/DRI resort where there are resort fees. Even in Hawaii. The fee provides us no value and people who exchange into the Marriott resorts we own don't pay resort fees. Even if they did, I would avoid resorts with resort fees.
I have also heard that the DVC is used to part fund the II exchange fees for DVC owners, so it does go back to owners in that form, which is an excellent idea
Nice to know owners get some benefit from the fees. In addition to the transportation, they also provide lifeguards at the swimming pools. Not many other resorts do this. As a mom of 3 not-so-strong-swimmers, it is nice knowing I'm not the only one watching them! On the flip side, I'm trying to find a place in Vegas and I won't even consider Hilton because of the resort fee. There are too many other nice resorts to choose from that don't charge fees!
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