Exchanging Sedona Summit Resort

[travelplus]

Lets say we have a 2 bedroom( 1 bedroom lockoff Privacy 6,Maximum Occupancy 8). in the First Phase the lockoff room has a 2 burner stove, Full Refrigerator, Dishwasher,Microwave which trading company is better(RCI or II). If we split the week how does the Summit Trade being that its a Red year round resort vs lets say the Scottsdale Villa Mirage and Marriott Desert Springs Villas 2 all 2 bedroom lockoff units.

The Villa Mirage assigns a TPU of 27 for the Studio and 30 for the lockoff portion. Marriott gave us a Thanksgiving week for Interval.

If we were to put both the Vila Mirage and Sedona Summit into Interval and not RCI where would we get most benefit as our Ridge Tahoe 2 bedroom Lock Off is also with Interval? I know that on Interval you get like for like but on RCI you can get a studio for a 2 bedroom depending on the TPUS and season.

Being that the Sedona Summit is an II Premiere Resort with II and Silver Crown with RCI how does that effect the trade. The Marriott Desert Springs is considered Elite. Is it true from what the Hyatt timeshare sales person told me that if you own in a Platinum Resort you can't trade to an Elite resort or is this pure lies? I thought it was a lie as his lips were moving

So lets say we wanted to put our Sedona Summit into II could we trade into the Four Seasons Avira/Troon North, Westin Kierland Villas, Westin Kaanapali villas, Hyatt Highlands Inn, Hyatt Aspen/Sedona? Which of the resorts does better with RCI and II.

On II the Sedona Summit is assigned a TDI of 32(how does this rate in terms of getting a nicer resort)?

While I know that its best to use your home resort I also want the option of trading into better resorts like the Westin or Four Seasons.

Is the Sedona Summit a good trader? How does Sedona compare with locations such as Palm Desert, Lake Tahoe etc in terms of supply and demand. For instance Diamond owns 7 resorts . The Sedona Summit has 417 units and lets say we are allowed to use Phase 1 what are our best chances of going to Sedona? How is Summer(July, August)? Christmas/New Years? Spring Break?

Is Sedona as highly rated as Hawaii or Europe so if we did want to exchange into high demand areas such as Biarritz/ San Sebbastian would we do well with our Sedona week?

Now granted we love Sedona and want to come here as often as possible I just want to have the best options for getting the best resorts possible and to make our MFs worth it.

Here is my theory we own at a resort with a MF of $960 and want to trade into a resort with a MF of $1,000+ like Four Seasons is this possible? What resorts do trade well with a 2 bedroom or 2 bedroom lockoff(if they are not available)?

We want to get rid of our Marriott Palm Desert Week which is costing $1,700 in MFs so if we do are we going to get worse resorts better or the same quality if we did keep our Marriott week? I just need to hear the options and yes rental may be an option. How much could we get for our 2 bedroom lockoff for Thanksgiving week? We have what they claim to be a white season but when my Grandfather purchased it they did not tell him so.

If Sedona Summit has Red year round in RCI and the same for II it seems like this would be a better trader than a resort with floating week that has seasons.

Thanks for your help.

 

[HudsHut]

The highest demand for Sedona (Arizona mountain area), per the Travel Demand Index (TDI) that II publishes in its Directory, are weeks 26 - 29, with 30 - 31 just below. As early as you are can, reserve one of those weeks, if you have the ability to do so. Then deposit that week to II for best trade power.

There is 1 timeshare in Biarritz.
Résidence Mer & Golf Eugenie (#5202)
However, there are no weeks currently available as Exchange nor as Getaways (cash rental). You will have to search that one every so often to see if any weeks are ever available and if you can determine whether there is a pattern of weeks available.
If an owner does not deposit a week into RCI, there is no way for an exchange to happen, no matter what you own.

I could not find any timeshares in San Sebastian in II or RCI. If you know of one, please let me know.

Your best approach is an ongoing search, along with manual searches on your part. Sometimes you find a gem just because you were searching online. Also, by searching manually, you get to know what is out there all the time, (easily available), as well as what is rarely available online.

 

[travelplus]

Thanks for your helpful tips. I do the manual search and confirm it when I see a resort that I like. I'm a bit weary of the Ongoing search unless I can specify the resort where I want to stay at along with the room size.

Furthermore why did RCI up their exchange fee for non OGS?

I really think.OGS can take the control away from the exchanger who has to constantly monitor and decline the resort if they are not satisfied. I'm so used to the Expedia way with seeing a resort for the dates listed. As i like back to back weeks an OGS may or may not be the best approach.

If my theory is wrong regarding placing an OGS please correct me. I'm a person who is open to change my way of searching and booking.

Back in the day when my Brother and I were younger before the internet took off we had timeshares and they were hard to use and there web interface of II and RCI in 1994 if it existed at all was a pain. We had a timeshare with ORE that went bankrupt after we sold it and one at the Palm.Canyon Resort in Palm Springs who told us that we did not have a reservation on the last time we used it.

We got back in to timesharing in 2012 and never looked back.

 

[BJRSanDiego]

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... Is it true from what the Hyatt timeshare sales person told me that if you own in a Platinum Resort you can't trade to an Elite resort or is this pure lies? I thought it was a lie as his lips were moving I think that the Hyatt sales guy was exaggerating. There are other factors such as supply, demand.

So lets say we wanted to put our Sedona Summit into II could we trade into the Four Seasons Avira/Troon North, Westin Kierland Villas, Westin Kaanapali villas, Hyatt Highlands Inn, Hyatt Aspen/Sedona? Which of the resorts does better with RCI and II. I think that all of the places you list are really difficult trades. Also, some of the resorts have a preference period. My perception is that Sedona Summit is not a supreme trader. It is probably okay, but not supreme. Generally you should remember that ii trades "like for like". RCI either trades points or TPU's, but you'll use a bunch more TPUs for Troon than you'd get from, say the Summit. I traded a 2 BR Marriott Canyon Villas for a 1 BR Hyatt Highlands Inn in 2014, but I consider myself really lucky. I would not expect that to be a normal exchange.

On II the Sedona Summit is assigned a TDI of 32(how does this rate in terms of getting a nicer resort)? I think that is quite a bit less than the resorts that you listed above. Hopefully an RCI owner will provide details.

While I know that its best to use your home resort I also want the option of trading into better resorts like the Westin or Four Seasons. Trading the Summit for resorts that are better than the Summit is a long-short. Also, Westin has a preference. I don't know about Four Seasons.

Is the Sedona Summit a good trader? It is probably a "fair" trader. How does Sedona Fairly easy [/COLOR} compare with locations such as Palm Desert fairly easy , Lake Tahoe Easy etc in terms of supply and demand. For instance Diamond owns 7 resorts . I think the nicest Sedona resort is probably the Hyatt Pinon Point. As a point of reference, I exchanged my 1 BR DSV2 and got a 2 BR Pinon Point. Also, I see a lot of lower to moderately priced Getaways into the Diamond Sedona resorts The Sedona Summit has 417 units and lets say we are allowed to use Phase 1 what are our best chances of going to Sedona? How is Summer(July, August)? Christmas/New Years? Spring Break?

Is Sedona as highly rated as Hawaii No or Europe so if we did want to exchange into high demand areas such as Biarritz/ San Sebbastian would we do well with our Sedona week? Probably only if you reserved a really high demand Sedona week and were requesting a shoulder season

Now granted we love Sedona and want to come here as often as possible I just want to have the best options for getting the best resorts possible and to make our MFs worth it.

Here is my theory we own at a resort with a MF of $960 and want to trade into a resort with a MF of $1,000+ like Four Seasons is this possible? Unlikely. Possible but don't depend on it. I'm guessing that Troon has a MF of around $2K What resorts do trade well with a 2 bedroom or 2 bedroom lockoff(if they are not available)?

We want to get rid of our Marriott Palm Desert Week which is costing $1,700 You're exaggerating a bit. I think DSV1 is around $1400 and DSV1 is around $1300 in MFs so if we do are we going to get worse resorts better or the same quality if we did keep our Marriott week? My hunch is that the DSV will trade a bit better than the Summit. I just need to hear the options and yes rental may be an option. How much could we get for our 2 bedroom lockoff for Thanksgiving week? The TDI during thanksgiving is around 125, so it trades okay. We have what they claim to be a white season but when my Grandfather purchased it they did not tell him so.

If Sedona Summit has Red year round in RCI and the same for II it seems like this would be a better trader than a resort with floating week that has seasons.

Thanks for your help.

I responded to some of the questions in-line in Red