Every other year points

[fernow]

If you carry forward unused every other year points, do they carry forward to the next year or the next even/odd year?

Wanting to plan a family trip to Oahu in 2026 so thinking of buying an even eoy Lagoon Tower and rolling the 2024 points to 2026 so I will have enough points for two units.

Any problem with that idea?

I already own every year units in Las Vegas and the BI but want “priority“ on Oahu.

 

[gggllm]

first contract better not to be EOY

 

[Gwendyc]

You can pull points from 2026 to use in 2025 at no cost. You can also pay the point-saving fee to save 2024 points to 2025. But I don't know if a way to save 2024 points all the way to 2026.

We have an EOY platinum that we end up using for 5 to 6 nights every year in gold season.

 

[GT75]

do they carry forward to the next year

They are saved to the following year which they most be used in that year.

 

[SmithOp]

If by "priority" you mean the 9-12 month Home booking window, then no you can't use saved or borrowed points for that. You will have to book at 9 months club window. No way to get 2 home season reservations at the same time from a single EOY contract.

 

[GT75]

Any problem with that idea?

You plan of using 2024 saved into 2026 won‘t work.

 

[fernow]

Thanks. That helps. But I could still get one unit reserved in the 12 mo window and use points from one of my every year contracts at the 9 mo window and hope for the best. Correct? My concern is the general difficulty getting Lagoon tower at a 9 mo window.

gggllm: you said “first contract better not be eoy”. Why? And, I am already an “elite” member from 2 every year contracts purchased long ago. We use them a lot so we are always in a deficit having borrowed next years points so I could use more points.

But if there is no advantage to my plan then will buy cheaper elsewhere to add more points and risk getting two units at the 9 mo window.

 

[dougp26364]

Thanks. That helps. But I could still get one unit reserved in the 12 mo window and use points from one of my every year contracts at the 9 mo window and hope for the best. Correct? My concern is the general difficulty getting Lagoon tower at a 9 mo window.

gggllm: you said “first contract better not be eoy”. Why? And, I am already an “elite” member from 2 every year contracts purchased long ago. We use them a lot so we are always in a deficit having borrowed next years points so I could use more points.

But if there is no advantage to my plan then will buy cheaper elsewhere to add more points and risk getting two units at the 9 mo window.

If you save 2024 to 2025, those points will need to be used by the end of 2025. On an EOY contract, your next usage year that you can reserve home week at 12 months will be 2026. So it’s not possible to use the saved points in the same year you have the home resort window of 12 months, if that’s what you’re asking.
Now if you’re reserving the last week of 2025 and the first week of 2026, then you can string 2 weeks together using saved points and home week, but that might be the only way. Depending on the location this may not be easy if NYE was sold as an event or premium week.

 

[4TimeAway]

Thanks. That helps. But I could still get one unit reserved in the 12 mo window and use points from one of my every year contracts at the 9 mo window and hope for the best. Correct? My concern is the general difficulty getting Lagoon tower at a 9 mo window.

Lagoon tower seems to have high MFs that other options in the same complex. There are a number of shares available from Japanese sellers and prices seem soft.

 

[ljmiii]

Wanting to plan a family trip to Oahu in 2026 so thinking of buying an even eoy Lagoon Tower and rolling the 2024 points to 2026 so I will have enough points for two units.

To clarify, you can't make a Home Week reservation with saved or borrowed points.

That said, you could save the 2024 Lagoon points into 2025 and use those instead of whatever you would use your existing 2025 LV or BI points on. Then save some of those 2025 points to make a 2026 Club Reservation at GI or GV (more expensive than Lagoon...but almost always with availability when the window opens).

Or if you think you will want two 2BRs every other year for the foreseeable future, buy two EOY Lagoon weeks. Which is what we did.

 

[fernow]

Great info. What’s the latest recommendation for where to shop for a resale contract. I see a lot of inventory listed on a website called Fidelity, but have no idea if they are any good or not.

 

[4TimeAway]

Great info. What’s the latest recommendation for where to shop for a resale contract. I see a lot of inventory listed on a website called Fidelity, but have no idea if they are any good or not.

Try to figure out what you think you want first, then go look for it.

Lowest mf/pt, how many points, where you want to own, what you want studio, 1bed, 2 bed. Season we recommend Platinum, but its just impossible to predict what you want. Also, it will come down to a math decision. I mean, a <$2,000 deeded week with $0.13/pf MF or a $10,000 deeded week with a $0.08/pt MF, but the more expesive one has more points or you oculd buy 2 of the less expensive weeks and take more vacations.

Its a game with complicated rules, tradeoffs and no real right answer except buy resale, but even that one in very limimted scenarios might not be the best option (mainly thinking non-HGVC, as some have mentioned weeks that make sense, but I have no personal knowledge of which ones).

The price you pay is almost secondary, but ROFR.net will give you an idea of lowest possible price. Expect to pay a bit more. Also, $400 more a year in MFs probably won't change your life and it it does, timeshares are not for you.

For your first purchase it might make you feel better will an named agnet/broker, later ebay or other sites might be better.

 

[ljmiii]

What’s the latest recommendation for where to shop for a resale contract....

I'm uncertain if you are asking at which place to look at or which resort to buy. If the former, I would suggest one of...

tochoa25 on eBay & hamlet@timeshare-group.com - John Hamlet
https://www.timesharebrokersales.com - Diane Nadeau
https://www.timeshareprofessionals.com - Judi Kozlowski
https://sellingtimeshares.net - Seth Nock
https://www.fidelityrealestate.com...
though I've only personally bought or sold through John and Diane.


If the latter, it depends on why you want to buy HGVC. In particular, HGVC truly excels if you want to do one of the three following things...

1) Stay at one of HGVC's major destinations - O'ahu, the Big Island, Carlsbad (CA), Las Vegas, Myrtle Beach (SC), Orlando, and maybe NYC. There is almost always plenty of availability at 276 days (~9 months) and you can just buy the least expensive deed anywhere in the system (taking into account both initial price and MFs).

2) Stay at any HGVC resort for a week at a time (usually Saturday to Saturday) in a particular unit size and season at least every other year. Because most people don't book Home Week reservations there is almost always availability at 12 months (except perhaps for the very highest of demand weeks - e.g. President's Week at a Ski Resort). For this you buy a deed for the unit, season, and resort at which you want to stay.

3) Stay in NYC or DC. Because the "by Hilton Club" (aka bHC) resorts in these locations have "Home Resort Priority" windows in addition to the "Home Week Priority" window there is a long period of time (typically 90 to 276 days in advance) during which resort owners and no one else can book short stays. In addition, only owners can make "Open Season" reservations (cash stays) and there is usually an owners lounge. You would need to buy at the resort though not necessarily the unit and season at which you want to stay.

 

[brp]

Because most people don't book Home Week reservations...

Is this true? I know that most folks here don't book Home Week, but I was under the impression that most people who own HGVC did book their home weeks rather than using points as many here do. Is this really not the case?

Cheers.

 

[dayooper]

Is this true? I know that most folks here don't book Home Week, but I was under the impression that most people who own HGVC did book their home weeks rather than using points as many here do. Is this really not the case?

Cheers.

Eh, I was under the impression that most used club bookings unless it the deed was bought for a particular reason. Every HGVC owner I know outside of TUG use club bookings except for those that own at Ocean Oak. Its a tiny sample size, but my impression is that most did club bookings.

 

[ljmiii]

Is this true? I know that most folks here don't book Home Week, but I was under the impression that most people who own HGVC did book their home weeks rather than using points as many here do. Is this really not the case?

It's true on the FB Groups I follow as well.

The exceptions are those resorts that people buy into to use as weeks. So the Florida Gulf affiliates, the Ski Resorts, and Scotland in the Summer. There also seem to be a lot of HHV owners who use their weeks as weeks - Lagoon is obvious because of the low point value but a surprising number of high cost/value weeks at GI and GW are Home Week owner occupied. Admittedly, GI and GW have a lot of Japanese owners who have absolutely no interest whatsoever in staying anywhere else (in HGVC land).