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Marriott G. Château
HVC Sedona Summit
VVR The Colonies
DW and I used DeX to exchange into The Grand Islander by HGVC. We decided to go to a presentation. Our intent was to hear HGVC’s perspective on HGV Max. Overall, it was a positive experience, but we didn’t purchase anything. According to the sales agent we were the first DRI owners to meet with HHV sales as an (HGV - HVC) owner. Our sales lady was very nice and had answers (in line with what I’ve read) to most of our questions. I’ll try to list the questions and answers, but feel free to ask a question, and I’ll let you know if it was discussed. Overall, my take away was we were better buying a resale HGVC unit if we want access to HGVC properties.
We didn’t receive any phone call prior to arrival (and didn’t expect one). The day after checking in we stopped by concierge to get our discount card and activities sheet. As expected, he asked if we wanted to attend a presentation. DW and I haven’t been to one in years (since DW doesn’t like them at all), but decided to do one to ask about HGV Max. After we told them we were DRI owners, he made several phone calls. They ended up booking us as HGV owners. This meant we sat with someone in sales who typically only meets with HGV owners.
Can we buy HGV Max ($7K) without an additional purchase?
Yes, but not in Hawaii. She stated they don’t sell that anywhere in Hawaii. She showed me a list of sales centers authorized (don’t remember the locations) to do it, so it’s possible just not in Hawaii.
Will HGV Max owners have to pay resort fees (like the $40/day incurred at HHV resorts with exchanges through DeX)?
No.
As a DRI owner, why should I buy from the HGVC instead of purchasing a resale HGVC unit to gain access to HGVC resorts?
Resales don’t qualify for elite, can only convert to HH points EOY, don’t get access to HGV Max, no access to open season, bonus points are only given with developer purchases, and maybe one or two other things. I told her I don’t care about elite status, and that converting to HH points is typically not a great value. I also told her that I'd have access to both DRI/HVC and HGVC inventory so Max didn't really matter. Lastly on this one, I told her open season seemed like a decent benefit, but not at the cost of buying from the developer.
Will any DRI properties be HGVC instead of HVC?
No. I told her I heard The Point at Poipu and Kaanapali Beach Club may become HGVC. She said no, then stated it was a good thing for HGVC owners since the points would be less to exchange into those properties. I’m not sure she knows the points required for a 2BR prime season at KBC.
Any information on future inventory in DeX?
No. She didn’t have any details on DeX. She said DeX has been mentioned, but they haven’t had any training on it.
Why should we purchase at HHV when we could purchase at other locations that have a better points-to-MF ratio?
Home resort priority if we want to come to Hawaii.
She asked me my intent for attending. I said to gain more information on HGV Max, so I can determine which route (retail or resale) to go if I wanted access to HGVC in the future. I told her I had no intent on buying and I figured most said the same. She said almost all say it, but 1 out of 2 purchases.
She asked me if I was interested in purchasing at HHV. I told her no and that I would purchase elsewhere if I wanted access to HGVC. I also said the price would be much higher than I’m willing to spend if I wanted access to HGVC. I shared with her some of our other (resale) purchases. I also said, I could get The Bay Club for much cheaper if I wanted HGVC in Hawaii. She said she’d bring someone in to inform me of some possible changes with this.
She then stated she had to show me some numbers, but based on our conversation, she would look for inventory elsewhere. She came back with several options for studios at the Elara in Las Vegas. I wasn’t surprised at the location based on what I’ve read in the HGVC forum about some of the locations with better ratios. In short, it was an EY Studio for $20K, and an EOY studio $9.7K. Unfortunately, I don’t remember the points associated with it, but they were low and somewhere around 5K (new points). Bonus points were ~17K if I recall correctly.
The closer came in and asked if I had any other questions. I said not really. He said HGVC was considering other changes to resale purchases (as previously mentioned), and that he recommended purchasing retail. I pointed out he stated considering so it was still possible to purchase resale and use elsewhere. He acknowledged the point and said, in essence, that they have a great product and I needed to determine if it met our needs. I told him HGVC is a great product, but I’m not willing to pay retail.
We were then offered an exit package for a return stay at certain resorts. We turned it down, received our gift, and left.
If you have any questions, let me know.
We didn’t receive any phone call prior to arrival (and didn’t expect one). The day after checking in we stopped by concierge to get our discount card and activities sheet. As expected, he asked if we wanted to attend a presentation. DW and I haven’t been to one in years (since DW doesn’t like them at all), but decided to do one to ask about HGV Max. After we told them we were DRI owners, he made several phone calls. They ended up booking us as HGV owners. This meant we sat with someone in sales who typically only meets with HGV owners.
Can we buy HGV Max ($7K) without an additional purchase?
Yes, but not in Hawaii. She stated they don’t sell that anywhere in Hawaii. She showed me a list of sales centers authorized (don’t remember the locations) to do it, so it’s possible just not in Hawaii.
Will HGV Max owners have to pay resort fees (like the $40/day incurred at HHV resorts with exchanges through DeX)?
No.
As a DRI owner, why should I buy from the HGVC instead of purchasing a resale HGVC unit to gain access to HGVC resorts?
Resales don’t qualify for elite, can only convert to HH points EOY, don’t get access to HGV Max, no access to open season, bonus points are only given with developer purchases, and maybe one or two other things. I told her I don’t care about elite status, and that converting to HH points is typically not a great value. I also told her that I'd have access to both DRI/HVC and HGVC inventory so Max didn't really matter. Lastly on this one, I told her open season seemed like a decent benefit, but not at the cost of buying from the developer.
Will any DRI properties be HGVC instead of HVC?
No. I told her I heard The Point at Poipu and Kaanapali Beach Club may become HGVC. She said no, then stated it was a good thing for HGVC owners since the points would be less to exchange into those properties. I’m not sure she knows the points required for a 2BR prime season at KBC.
Any information on future inventory in DeX?
No. She didn’t have any details on DeX. She said DeX has been mentioned, but they haven’t had any training on it.
Why should we purchase at HHV when we could purchase at other locations that have a better points-to-MF ratio?
Home resort priority if we want to come to Hawaii.
She asked me my intent for attending. I said to gain more information on HGV Max, so I can determine which route (retail or resale) to go if I wanted access to HGVC in the future. I told her I had no intent on buying and I figured most said the same. She said almost all say it, but 1 out of 2 purchases.
She asked me if I was interested in purchasing at HHV. I told her no and that I would purchase elsewhere if I wanted access to HGVC. I also said the price would be much higher than I’m willing to spend if I wanted access to HGVC. I shared with her some of our other (resale) purchases. I also said, I could get The Bay Club for much cheaper if I wanted HGVC in Hawaii. She said she’d bring someone in to inform me of some possible changes with this.
She then stated she had to show me some numbers, but based on our conversation, she would look for inventory elsewhere. She came back with several options for studios at the Elara in Las Vegas. I wasn’t surprised at the location based on what I’ve read in the HGVC forum about some of the locations with better ratios. In short, it was an EY Studio for $20K, and an EOY studio $9.7K. Unfortunately, I don’t remember the points associated with it, but they were low and somewhere around 5K (new points). Bonus points were ~17K if I recall correctly.
The closer came in and asked if I had any other questions. I said not really. He said HGVC was considering other changes to resale purchases (as previously mentioned), and that he recommended purchasing retail. I pointed out he stated considering so it was still possible to purchase resale and use elsewhere. He acknowledged the point and said, in essence, that they have a great product and I needed to determine if it met our needs. I told him HGVC is a great product, but I’m not willing to pay retail.
We were then offered an exit package for a return stay at certain resorts. We turned it down, received our gift, and left.
If you have any questions, let me know.
