Destination Club, Interval International, and Resale weeks.

[StevenTing]

I own developer weeks at Grand Chateau and Ko Olina, purchased before 2010. I bought 1000 DC points in 2010 when the program was rolled out. Those two weeks were combined with my points into an II Account.

In 2013 or 2014, I bought an Odd EOY Ko Olina week resale. This has it's own II number, which I don't remember. We'll call this Week 3.

Am I allowed/entitled as a DC owner, to have this Week 3 added/combined with my existing II account? This would allow me to deposit/trade Week 3, though I don't ever anticipate doing so.

If I am allowed to do this, how would I go about doing this without knowing my II number for Week 3? I would like to try and consolidate things.

 

[tschwa2]

The only way you would be able to combine the accounts would be to enroll your post 2010 week in the DC. I believe the latest promotion which I am not sure is still valid would require an additional purchase of 2000-2500 Trust points directly from Marriott.

 

[GregT]

I own developer weeks at Grand Chateau and Ko Olina, purchased before 2010. I bought 1000 DC points in 2010 when the program was rolled out. Those two weeks were combined with my points into an II Account.

In 2013 or 2014, I bought an Odd EOY Ko Olina week resale. This has it's own II number, which I don't remember. We'll call this Week 3.

Am I allowed/entitled as a DC owner, to have this Week 3 added/combined with my existing II account? This would allow me to deposit/trade Week 3, though I don't ever anticipate doing so.

If I am allowed to do this, how would I go about doing this without knowing my II number for Week 3? I would like to try and consolidate things.

Steven, you will have to keep your separate II account for your post-2010 week -- only if you enrolled it (and bought a bunch of points) could you consolidate it into your Corporate II account. I have the same issue...

Best,

Greg

 

[dioxide45]

I own developer weeks at Grand Chateau and Ko Olina, purchased before 2010. I bought 1000 DC points in 2010 when the program was rolled out. Those two weeks were combined with my points into an II Account.

In 2013 or 2014, I bought an Odd EOY Ko Olina week resale. This has it's own II number, which I don't remember. We'll call this Week 3.

Am I allowed/entitled as a DC owner, to have this Week 3 added/combined with my existing II account? This would allow me to deposit/trade Week 3, though I don't ever anticipate doing so.

If I am allowed to do this, how would I go about doing this without knowing my II number for Week 3? I would like to try and consolidate things.

Here is what you have.

Corporate II Account
Week 1 - Grand Chateau
Week 2 - KoOlina
DC Trust Points

Individual II Account
Week 3 - KoOlina (post 6/20/2010 resale)

Here is what I would do. Don't renew the Individual II Account. If you ever desire to deposit Week 3 in to II and are either using Week 2 at your home resort or converting it to points in the same year, you likely won't have any issues. II should be able to confirm the deposit without issue. It seems that it might be possible that flags would be raised if you ever attempt to deposit both Week 2 and Week 3 in to your Corporate II Account in the same year.

 

[Emi]

To deposit a week in II don't you need to reserve a unit and give them the reservation confirmation # ? If so, then the reservation # will be for week 3 and Marriott will not confirm the deposit. Any thoughts on this?

A different question, I often wonder if Marriott actually deposit to II the week you reserved or do they deposit a less desirable week. They claim they keep Destination points weeks separate from enrolled traditional weeks but if they can manipulate the inventory, wouldn't they keep the prime weeks for the Destination program?

 

[Quadmaniac]

This would allow me to deposit/trade Week 3, though I don't ever anticipate doing so.

If you don't anticipate ever doing so, why even have it in your II account or pay to have a separate II account ? As many have said, Hawaii units are usually too expensive to use as a trader anyways and usually much better to rent it out directly to maximize your return.

 

[StevenTing]

If you don't anticipate ever doing so, why even have it in your II account or pay to have a separate II account ? As many have said, Hawaii units are usually too expensive to use as a trader anyways and usually much better to rent it out directly to maximize your return.

I'm not paying for it. When I bought the week, they assigned my week an II Account Number. The corporate account is included with my Trust points.


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[davidvel]

Here is what you have.

Corporate II Account
Week 1 - Grand Chateau
Week 2 - KoOlina
DC Trust Points

Individual II Account
Week 3 - KoOlina (post 6/20/2010 resale)

Here is what I would do. Don't renew the Individual II Account. If you ever desire to deposit Week 3 in to II and are either using Week 2 at your home resort or converting it to points in the same year, you likely won't have any issues. II should be able to confirm the deposit without issue. It seems that it might be possible that flags would be raised if you ever attempt to deposit both Week 2 and Week 3 in to your Corporate II Account in the same year.

Have you done this? Though it wouldn't surprise me given what we know about these systems, you would think they would track the specific week you own in some way(vs. just the correct unit type in your reservation you deposit.)

 

[dioxide45]

Have you done this? Though it wouldn't surprise me given what we know about these systems, you would think they would track the specific week you own in some way(vs. just the correct unit type in your reservation you deposit.)

I have not. But in the past there were other loopholes that I had a hunch on that turned out to work. We won't ever know if it works unless someone comes here and confirms. Though if someone knows it works, they probably shouldn't confirm it. We know how these things get closed when lips get loose.

To deposit a week in II don't you need to reserve a unit and give them the reservation confirmation # ? If so, then the reservation # will be for week 3 and Marriott will not confirm the deposit. Any thoughts on this?

You do need a reservation number for Week 3. There is no reason the OP couldn't reserve their Week 3 and then attempt to deposit that in to their corporate II account. Since they have an actual reservation that would match upon II unit confirmation, then it should work. I highly suspect that the confirmation process is automated, no human is actually checking the reservations.

They key is that you would have to own the same resort and unit size as the Unit already in your My Unit placeholder in your II account.

A different question, I often wonder if Marriott actually deposit to II the week you reserved or do they deposit a less desirable week. They claim they keep Destination points weeks separate from enrolled traditional weeks but if they can manipulate the inventory, wouldn't they keep the prime weeks for the Destination program?

They might, but I don't think they do that. There are two options online when booking a week for deposit. II Exchange - Owner Deposit and II Exchange Marriott Deposit. Why give an owner the option if they are just going to switch it to Marriott Deposit?

 

[davidvel]

I have not. But in the past there were other loopholes that I had a hunch on that turned out to work. We won't ever know if it works unless someone comes here and confirms. Though if someone knows it works, they probably shouldn't confirm it. We know how these things get closed when lips get loose.

Very interesting. If they only confirm the correct unit type, res# and Name, this might work. But, there must be more. For example, do you think you could deposit a week you paid for on Marriott that matched up?

 

[Quadmaniac]

I'm not paying for it. When I bought the week, they assigned my week an II Account Number. The corporate account is included with my Trust points.


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How are you not paying for the II Acct for week 3 ???? If it is free, why even worry about ? Sure it's a bit of a pain but the price is right

 

[taterhed]

I'll second dioxide45: don't ask questions you don't want to have answered and don't look a gift horse in the eye.

Remember the question about 2 WM accounts on 1 RCI account? Oh yeah, it can be done. But, when I called to have the owner name adjusted on RCI (just the name in 'greetings' not sure about anywhere else...was worried that confirmation wouldn't show my name) they certainly fixed that little mistake. RCI account for that WM is now gone.

 

[dioxide45]

Very interesting. If they only confirm the correct unit type, res# and Name, this might work. But, there must be more. For example, do you think you could deposit a week you paid for on Marriott that matched up?

There are probably other data points, like the source of a reservation. But a weeks based reservation is a weeks based reservation.

 

[StevenTing]

How are you not paying for the II Acct for week 3 ???? If it is free, why even worry about ? Sure it's a bit of a pain but the price is right

It's not free. They just assigned an account number to it but I haven't tried logging into it. I haven't tried to access the account as I don't remember the number. I just remember getting a letter that they assigned a number.

Maybe I should try and find the number and see if I can do anything with it.


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[Quadmaniac]

It's not free. They just assigned an account number to it but I haven't tried logging into it. I haven't tried to access the account as I don't remember the number. I just remember getting a letter that they assigned a number.

Maybe I should try and find the number and see if I can do anything with it.


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Maybe it was the number or the previous owner ??? If you can access it, I would try, nothing to lose.

 

[Bill4728]

I have a pre 2010 week at NCV enrolled in the DC and a post 2010 week at NCV not enrolled in the DC I can use both weeks in my DC - II account since as far as II is concerned they are the same.

I have another II account for all my non Marriott TS weeks so II could have put my NCV in that account, they did not.

 

[kds4]

Here is what you have.

Corporate II Account
Week 1 - Grand Chateau
Week 2 - KoOlina
DC Trust Points

Individual II Account
Week 3 - KoOlina (post 6/20/2010 resale)

Here is what I would do. Don't renew the Individual II Account. If you ever desire to deposit Week 3 in to II and are either using Week 2 at your home resort or converting it to points in the same year, you likely won't have any issues. II should be able to confirm the deposit without issue. It seems that it might be possible that flags would be raised if you ever attempt to deposit both Week 2 and Week 3 in to your Corporate II Account in the same year.

What if the enrolled and unenrolled units are at the same resort, as in the example above, but are in a different season - say Platinum versus Gold?

 

[dioxide45]

What if the enrolled and unenrolled units are at the same resort, as in the example above, but are in a different season - say Platinum versus Gold?

My hunch is that it doesn't matter. II doesn't recognize the season you own. You just enter your confirmation number and reservation date.