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when I deposit my points in II when do the deposit expire. I alway deposit a two bedroom green or should I deposit a smaller one bedroom? any recommendations? Thanks Daniel Northover
 

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when I deposit my points in II when do the deposit expire. I alway deposit a two bedroom green or should I deposit a smaller one bedroom? any recommendations? Thanks Daniel Northover
It is nice to know that there are still other Wyndham/II traders. When we started trading with II and wanted one bedroom units I made a couple of one bedroom green deposits that worked well. Then I started reading advice on Tug and the Wyndham Owners Forum about Wyndham/II trading. I learned about the power in II of 28K (now 35K) studio deposits. Since then we have done numerous exchanges, many into two-bedroom units, with those studio deposits alone. One caveat - we mostly trade into off- and shoulder-season units. However, we have gotten some good exchanges for Thanksgiving and New Years weeks. If you really want a high demand location/time then you might want something larger than a studio deposit. However, my experience is that II does not give any weight to a larger points deposit based on "color" of the deposit.

Deposits are good for two years.
 
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I bought a Wyndham contract with II affiliation in 2008 because I wanted to trade into DVC. I made one trade, and then DVC moved to RCI. Luckily, I discovered that II had great resorts. I made numerous trades with II until last year, when Wyndham moved my affiliation to RCI. I debating requesting to be put back into II, but decided to stay with RCI to get access to DVC.

Even though II values unit size more than season, I always had good luck with studios, especially during Flexchange. If you aren't using Flexchange, then you'd probably want to continue depositing two-bedrooms to get the best chance of matching a search request.
 

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If you aren't using Flexchange, then you'd probably want to continue depositing two-bedrooms to get the best chance of matching a search request.

This does not fit my experience with II. Maybe for best chance of matching submit the largest unit you can but in many cases you might be wasting points. Here is our current II history for one year:

Villa Roma, Callicoon, NY, check-in 6/21/15 two 2brs
one unit was a Getaway, the other a studio exchange

Villa Roma again, check-in 9/20/15, 2br
accomodation certificate

SVC Legacy Club, Phoenix, AZ, 10/10/15, 2br
AC

Marriotts Manor Club, Williamsburg, VA New Yeasr Week, 2br
studio exchange

Marriotts Surfwatch, Hilton Head, SC, 3/5/2016, 2br
studio exchange

Welk Resort San Diego, 4/16/16, 2br
AC

None of these were obtained during 60 days of check-in although the one for Surfwatch just came through this morning is only a bit over 60 days out.

I recommend that northovr check any threads or stickies that are available here or on Wyndham Owners Forum. Then start gaining some experience by making a studio deposit, submitting an ongoing request and doing some instant searches. With a studio deposit you can submit ongoing searches for two-bedroom unit by searching at resorts that have only two-bedroom and larger units. With instant searches you will find all size units currently available to studio deposits.

By the way, the ACs we have used have resulted from IIs attempt to keep Wyndham/II traders in II when Wyndham was trying to switch us to RCI. I believe that were promised for three years, one AC, with every exchange. If you are not getting those you might inquire II about them.

We have only 105K odd year and 128K even year Wyndham points but stretch them a lot with the studio deposits and now with the ACs.
 

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I have some fixed weeks and a separate RCI account so I wanted a II account tied to my Wyndham points. I like the TPI system better than RCI Wyndham points system. So green studios are good traders too?


Thanks
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I have some fixed weeks and a separate RCI account so I wanted a II account tied to my Wyndham points. I like the TPI system better than RCI Wyndham points system. So green studios are good traders too?


Thanks
Daniel Northover

Can we start over? Do you have an II account through Wyndham?
 

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yes I have an II account thru wyndham I orginally brought some resale Gov green points just for that purpose about 6 years ago.

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This does not fit my experience with II. Maybe for best chance of matching submit the largest unit you can but in many cases you might be wasting points. Here is our current II history for one year:

Villa Roma, Callicoon, NY, check-in 6/21/15 two 2brs
one unit was a Getaway, the other a studio exchange

Villa Roma again, check-in 9/20/15, 2br
accomodation certificate

SVC Legacy Club, Phoenix, AZ, 10/10/15, 2br
AC

Marriotts Manor Club, Williamsburg, VA New Yeasr Week, 2br
studio exchange

Marriotts Surfwatch, Hilton Head, SC, 3/5/2016, 2br
studio exchange

Welk Resort San Diego, 4/16/16, 2br
AC

None of these were obtained during 60 days of check-in although the one for Surfwatch just came through this morning is only a bit over 60 days out.

I recommend that northovr check any threads or stickies that are available here or on Wyndham Owners Forum. Then start gaining some experience by making a studio deposit, submitting an ongoing request and doing some instant searches. With a studio deposit you can submit ongoing searches for two-bedroom unit by searching at resorts that have only two-bedroom and larger units. With instant searches you will find all size units currently available to studio deposits.

By the way, the ACs we have used have resulted from IIs attempt to keep Wyndham/II traders in II when Wyndham was trying to switch us to RCI. I believe that were promised for three years, one AC, with every exchange. If you are not getting those you might inquire II about them.

We have only 105K odd year and 128K even year Wyndham points but stretch them a lot with the studio deposits and now with the ACs.

We started with 105,000 points as well. I've done some head-to-head comparisons of studios, one and two bedrooms, and the two bedrooms definitely see the most. For example, I could only see Atlantis with the two bedroom. But it all depends on what you want to trade for. The studio may well be sufficient. We have made great trades with our studios as well, even outside of flexchange.

I think your idea of starting with a studio is a good plan and thanks for including the reminder about resorts with larger units only. The Hyatts in Key West are a great example of that.
 

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yes I have an II account thru wyndham I orginally brought some resale Gov green points just for that purpose about 6 years ago.

Daniel

And you must have survived the Wyndham effort last year to switch us all to RCi. To answer your question about Green deposits: I never consider the "color" of deposits. I have never seen any indication the it matters in II. I always make the smallest points deposit possible. I don't even know if Green is high demand or low demand. My recommendation is to decide on the unit size you need to deposit and then make the smallest deposit you can for the unit size.
 

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I could only see Atlantis with the two bedroom.

Interesting. I try to keep one studio ongoing request active all the time. When I am not using it to search for something I both want and believe I might be able to get, I keep it active by letting it search for Atlantis and a couple of Caribbean Marriotts during the winter. After several years of this, the search has never resulted in a Caribbean exchange. Are you saying that I would need to search with a two bedroom deposit even for a studio at Atlantis?
 

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Interesting. I try to keep one studio ongoing request active all the time. When I am not using it to search for something I both want and believe I might be able to get, I keep it active by letting it search for Atlantis and a couple of Caribbean Marriotts during the winter. After several years of this, the search has never resulted in a Caribbean exchange. Are you saying that I would need to search with a two bedroom deposit even for a studio at Atlantis?

I don't know for sure. I know I've seen one-bedrooms at Atlantis with a two bedroom deposit. Unfortunately, they happened to be weeks I couldn't use. I've seen two bedrooms but only in flexchange.

When I first got into II and wanted to exchange into DVC, I was told that the best bet to get anything (even a smaller unit) at DVC was to use a two bedroom. I deposited the lowest points possible for a two bedroom (which was 77,000 at the time) and got a match into a one bedroom at OKW. I'm not sure if I ever would have matched to a two bedroom. I think it might have been tough given the comparative trade power of the units. I didn't follow DVC sightings closely then so I can't say for sure. The one bedroom was fine for our needs, so I wasn't going to press my luck and try for something larger.
 

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Interesting thread

Here is my recent experience

Using a studio deposit


Exchange
Transaction Date:
Mon, September 14, 2015

View History
Club Wyndham Plus
FFP

Unit: 0BED (Studio)
Week: 54

Marriott's Ocean Pointe
MPB

Unit: THMV (2 bedrooms)
Week: 21

Fri, May 20, 2016
Fri, May 27, 2016 Confirmed



View History
Club Wyndham Plus
FFP

Unit: 0BED (Studio)
Week: 54

The Suites at Polo Towers
PLT

Unit: 0BED (Studio)
Week: 13

Thu, April 03, 2014
Thu, April 10, 2014

Using a one bedroom...
La Cabana Beach Resort and Casino
LCB

Unit: 341B (Studio)
Week: 52

Fri, December 27, 2013
Fri, January 03, 2014

Using a 2 bedroom.....
Harborside at Atlantis
HRA

Unit: 1758 (1 bedroom)
Week: 37

Sat, September 14, 2013
Sat, September 21, 2013



Unit: 0BED (Studio)
Week: 54

Marriott's Aruba Surf Club
MSU

Unit: GVOG (Studio)
Week: 8

Fri, February 22, 2013
Fri, March 01, 2013

Using a studio.....
El San Juan Towers
ESJ

Unit: 380 (Studio)
Week: 1

Sat, January 05, 2013
Sat, January 12, 2013

Flex change
Unit: 0BED (Studio)
Week: 54

The Reef Resort
RYG

Unit: 307 (2 bedrooms)
Week: 12

Sat, March 24, 2012
Sat, March 31, 2012

Using a studio.
Sands of Kahana Vacation Club
SOK

Unit: 1BED (1 bedroom)
Week: 52

Sat, December 24, 2011
Sat, December 31, 2011

Please note that only one of these was flex change, the Reef Resort Grand Cayman

And all were the lowest "color". Such as 28/35K studio.
 

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yes I sent a letter saying that I didn't want to change and I sent it certified mail and they still tried to change me so I called the number on the letter and I forget her name but she straighten it out after I emailed her my certified mail card and the tracking info and the letter I sent to sea world drive. But I think she was one of the people who was laid off. I wish she was still at wyndham.

:) I did see playing around with searching between one and two bedrooms that two bedrooms do pull larger units more often so I am going to continue to bank two bedroom green units.

Thanks,

Daniel Northover:):cool::wave:
 

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We can deposit Wyndham points into II? This is news to me, and I'd be quite interested.
 

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FLDVCFamily,
It isn't an option for you.

You can only deposit wyndham points in II if you had specific II eligible units as your first Wyndham points. You would have had to have had a II account established with your Wyndham account (they pay for the II account not an RCI account) and I think anyone who bought after around 2011 only had the option of RCI even with the specific 5 or 6 wyndham resorts. You also had to request in writing that your included exchange account stay II or they would automatically switch you to RCI and in many cases even if you provided written request to remain with II they still tried to switch you.

So unless you already have such an account set up, you can't exchange through II with Wyndham points.

If you have an II account and have ever seen some Wyndham units, that;s how they get there.
 

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FLDVCFamily,
It isn't an option for you.

You can only deposit wyndham points in II if you had specific II eligible units as your first Wyndham points. You would have had to have had a II account established with your Wyndham account (they pay for the II account not an RCI account) and I think anyone who bought after around 2011 only had the option of RCI even with the specific 5 or 6 wyndham resorts. You also had to request in writing that your included exchange account stay II or they would automatically switch you to RCI and in many cases even if you provided written request to remain with II they still tried to switch you.

So unless you already have such an account set up, you can't exchange through II with Wyndham points.

If you have an II account and have ever seen some Wyndham units, that;s how they get there.

Ah, interesting...I did not know that. When I log into Club Wyndham, it gives me the option for "Interval International Exchange". I never realized that until I just looked. I assume that this isn't really an option for me, since I never requested in writing to deposit into II. I always used those points for RCI.

ETA - I just clicked on the Interval deposit option through Club Wyndham to see what would happen, and this is what came up <Our records indicate that you are affiliated with RCI®. Only Members affiliated with Interval International (II) can deposit points with this exchange company. To deposit your points, go to RCI - External Exchanges.>
 

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:) I did see playing around with searching between one and two bedrooms that two bedrooms do pull larger units more often so I am going to continue to bank two bedroom green units.

If you have the points to do so, depositing large units will certainly maximize your trading power. However, I have never seen any indication that "color" of the deposit is considered by II.
 

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A question that comes to my mind frequently:

"What would it be like to be the last Wyndham/II trader?"
 
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