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Just FYI, based on my experiences when I've reserved Maui weeks with points, the points inventory has loaded by midnight (12:01AM) on the 12 month release day, not at 9:00AM. I got a 1BR OF for next February in Lahaina/Napili villas at midnight this past February. By 9am the next morning, there was much less available, and no OF. I have not looked at midnight on the 13 month release day to see if the same thing happens, but I do know that at 9AM on the 13 month release day this past February, there was no inventory available for our February 2022 dates. That's why I tried at midnight on the 12 month date and as has always been the case in the past for me, the inventory was available as the clock rolled over. As I recall, it may have even already been loaded a few minutes before midnight, but don't recall precisely on that, but I do seem to have a recollection that I was able to book before midnight.
Do you find that midnight holds true for all resorts or has it just been Maui?
 

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I do not know what you mean. I am not aware of there being a point premium for reserving at 13 months.
From the TUG Points FAQ section on Reservation Windows:
>>13 months
  • Executive, Presidential and Chairman's Club Members booking one or more nights, including Luxury properties
  • Select Members booking seven nights or more, excluding Luxury properties
  • Owners booking seven nights or more with an additional 20% Points premium, excluding Luxury properties<<
Also see this "Benefits At A Glance" chart from MVW.
 

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Just FYI, based on my experiences when I've reserved Maui weeks with points, the points inventory has loaded by midnight (12:01AM) on the 12 month release day, not at 9:00AM. I got a 1BR OF for next February in Lahaina/Napili villas at midnight this past February. By 9am the next morning, there was much less available, and no OF. I have not looked at midnight on the 13 month release day to see if the same thing happens, but I do know that at 9AM on the 13 month release day this past February, there was no inventory available for our February 2022 dates. That's why I tried at midnight on the 12 month date and as has always been the case in the past for me, the inventory was available as the clock rolled over. As I recall, it may have even already been loaded a few minutes before midnight, but don't recall precisely on that, but I do seem to have a recollection that I was able to book before midnight.
Is the 12 - 13 month inventory loads done on a daily basis?
 

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From the TUG Points FAQ section on Reservation Windows:
>>13 months
  • Executive, Presidential and Chairman's Club Members booking one or more nights, including Luxury properties
  • Select Members booking seven nights or more, excluding Luxury properties
  • Owners booking seven nights or more with an additional 20% Points premium, excluding Luxury properties<<
Also see this "Benefits At A Glance" chart from MVW.
I am Presidential so I was not aware that the Owner level has to pay a 20% premium.
 

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Do you find that midnight holds true for all resorts or has it just been Maui?
Maui has been the only resort I'm sure I have tried to book right at the 12 month mark at midnight, so it is the only one I can speak with certainty about. I may have also booked Marriott's Waiohai on Kauai at that time a couple years ago, but don't recall for sure. Our other points bookings have been able to be made weeks or months after the 12 month window opened. So, it may be true for other resorts as well, but I only have experienced it with our Maui - and perhaps Kauai - points bookings.

Is the 12 - 13 month inventory loads done on a daily basis?
Once a week for 7 days worth of inventory. The 13-month release date is generally a Tuesday and the 12-month release date is generally a Friday.
 

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Aruba looks like another weird one. I'm trying to book a week in early June next year and the 13-month window opened yesterday, but almost nothing. Plenty of inventory at the 12-month early May mark, though. I can't imagine much change in demand from early May to early June, as kids in theory will still be in school.
 

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Which day?
I think the DOW could change.

Have only been monitoring the 13-Month release and ntoiced that the +13-Month, next week inventory shows up on TUE-9:00AM EST.
E.g. Tue, MAY-04-2021 opened up inventory for CHECK-IN of Wed, JUN-01-2022 --> Tue, JUN-07-2022.
I could book up to a MAX 21-DAYS out [e.g. JUN-07-2022 --> JUN-27-2022].

Here's an example for Tahoe.
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I have been trying to book Costa Rica at the 13 month mark with no success.
 

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Yesterday there was so much inventory for Ritz Carlton St Thomas. I was able to book 15 nights in June. Even after I booked, there was a lot of inventory left. Now it’s gone, even booking at the 13 month mark. In my experience, the only way to book at the Ritz Carlton St Thomas is to check daily because getting this resort, even at the 13 month mark, seems to be based on luck.
 

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Yesterday there was so much inventory for Ritz Carlton St Thomas. I was able to book 15 nights in June. Even after I booked, there was a lot of inventory left. Now it’s gone, even booking at the 13 month mark. In my experience, the only way to book at the Ritz Carlton St Thomas is to check daily because getting this resort, even at the 13 month mark, seems to be based on luck.
RITZ: St. Thomas & Tahoe has been fairly okay to book at exactly 13-Months.
SFO & Vail show the most availability and the easiest to book.
Aspen is the most difficult.
Over the last few months, I have been pretty lucky.

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I have been trying to book Costa Rica at the 13 month mark with no success.
There is a good deal for Costa Rica is you are open to last-minute.
E.g. MAY: 5-DAYS [STUDIO: 525-DCP] [2BR: 1225-DCP]
There's also availability 2BR for AUG-2021.

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There is a good deal for Costa Rica is you are open to last-minute.
E.g. MAY: 5-DAYS [STUDIO: 525-DCP] [2BR: 1225-DCP]
There's also availability 2BR for AUG-2021.

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But none of this is for 7+ days. I can always find a few days here and there in CR but rarely have I been able to get 7+ days at a time I want to go.
 

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RITZ: St. Thomas & Tahoe has been fairly okay to book at exactly 13-Months.
SFO & Vail show the most availability and the easiest to book.
Aspen is the most difficult.
Over the last few months, I have been pretty lucky.

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May is shoulder season in Tahoe and it’s easier to get.

Right now San Francisco is a lot easier to get because people are not visiting cities as much.

In terms of St Thomas for 2021, it is easier due to Covid but it’s getting harder for next year.
 

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But none of this is for 7+ days. I can always find a few days here and there in CR but rarely have I been able to get 7+ days at a time I want to go.
Please ignore. Unable to delete duplicate post.
 
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May is shoulder season in Tahoe and it’s easier to get.

Right now San Francisco is a lot easier to get because people are not visiting cities as much.

In terms of St Thomas for 2021, it is easier due to Covid but it’s getting harder for next year.
I have stayed at the Ritz St. Thomas 5 times in the last 8 years [Jul/Aug] and have never had problems finding availability.
Even Pre-Covid I have seen SFO availability for all 12-Months anytime I search.

Whenever I have searched [including St. Thomas] I have always seen 21-Days availability at the 13-Month window.

The way the system works is, if there is availability for 3 or 5-Days there is usually much more as what I am seeing is 13+ months out almost touching on 14-Months.
I usually book 5-Days [SUN -> FRI] as that is the best value.
 
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But none of this is for 7+ days. I can always find a few days here and there in CR but rarely have I been able to get 7+ days at a time I want to go.
Right now, looks like the most they have for MAY is 10-Days.
SInce I posted the AUG-Availability disappeard. :(

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I have stayed at the Ritz St. Thomas 5 times in the last 8 years [Jul/Aug] and have never had problems finding availability.
Even Pre-Covid I have seen SFO availability for all 12-Months anytime I search.

Whenever I have searched [including St. Thomas] I have always seen 21-Days availability at the 13-Month window.

The way the system works is, if there is availability for 3 or 5-Days there is usually much more as what I am seeing is 13+ months out almost touching on 14-Months.
I usually book 5-Days [SUN -> FRI] as that is the best value.
That’s interesting that it has been so easy for you to find dates in St Thomas. That has not been my experience. Right now, there is nothing for 7+ nights for St Thomas or Costa Rica. A few days ago, I could have booked 21 days for St Thomas and it wasn’t even exactly at 13 months.
 

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That’s interesting that it has been so easy for you to find dates in St Thomas. That has not been my experience. Right now, there is nothing for 7+ nights for St Thomas or Costa Rica. A few days ago, I could have booked 21 days for St Thomas and it wasn’t even exactly at 13 months.
Haven't been monitoring Costa Rica.

However, for St. Thomas; like clockwork you will see another 21-Days show up next Tuesday MAY-11-2021.
This will be for Check-In between JUN-08 -> JUN-14 2022.
  • If you choose CHECK-IN as JUN-14-2022 you can book [21-Days out] up to CHECK-OUT of JUL-05-2022.
It will be gone in a matter of minutes [sometimes hours] but it will show up.
 

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Haven't been monitoring Costa Rica.

However, for St. Thomas; like clockwork you will see another 21-Days show up next Tuesday MAY-11-2021.
This will be for Check-In between JUN-08 -> JUN-14 2022.
  • If you choose CHECK-IN as JUN-14-2022 you can book [21-Days out] up to CHECK-OUT of JUL-05-2022.
It will be gone in a matter of minutes [sometimes hours] but it will show up.
Interesting. I will check on May 11. How do you know the new inventory for June will show up on May 11 as opposed to a different day?
 
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