Cruise Industry extends "No-Sail" order until Oct. 31st, in US waters

[Luanne]

I applaud you for minimizing risk, but this is exactly what the experts are telling us not to do...have gatherings that include people outside our immediate household / pod. I suggest restricting the gathering to just an hour or two... and you haven’t decided on masks?!

I really don’t mean to be judgmental, but this is exactly the situation we will be reading about next month when the numbers get even higher...of people who couldn’t believe they got Covid during a small holiday party held mostly outside with masks (most of the time...), etc.


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New Mexico is shutting down again, starting today, and that is exactly what is being recommended for Thanksgiving. Keep it to those already living in your home. So this year, it will just be the three of us. I read something somewhere that went something like this "We won't get together for the holidays this year so that we can ALL be together in the future".

 

[elaine]

Simple formula:
Holiday gatherings=more chances to spread covid. So, Outside as much as possible. Any Inside=masks.
For us, Too cold to eat outside for mil-she’ll eat inside alone and we’ll eat in carport in coats. No way will we take off our masks for any reason inside.

 

[pedro47]

We are not cruising in 2021.

 

[Cornell]

Illinois health director ... thanksgiving guests may not be alive at Christmas. https://www.chicagotribune.com/subu...0201027-j7wjzdb2ufgy3htb5mdsqyanaa-story.html

 

[klpca]

I applaud you for minimizing risk, but this is exactly what the experts are telling us not to do...have gatherings that include people outside our immediate household / pod. I suggest restricting the gathering to just an hour or two... and you haven’t decided on masks?!

I really don’t mean to be judgmental, but this is exactly the situation we will be reading about next month when the numbers get even higher...of people who couldn’t believe they got Covid during a small holiday party held mostly outside with masks (most of the time...), etc.


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I went back and read the guidance from the state and they are still saying that outdoors is ok. Which is where I thought we were. They also mentioned that you need to keep things to three households. I appreciate and agree with your concern and if things get worse then our plans may change.

Btw with respect to masks I meant that I'm still wrapping my head around it. Most of us are wearing them all day anyway but it would feel odd to wear them inside of my house. BTW, my nephew who is on the Roosevelt has been living with us since returning in July and I'm pretty thankful that they are deploying again. That's been quite a nail biter for us as he has been on the ship with thousands of others almost every day since July and coming to our home every night. And none of us wore a mask inside of our home because technically he's in our pod and I just can't wear a mask 24/7. Now that he's gone our potential circle is infinitely smaller. Some people can move through this much easier than others. Our situation has been a lot different that that of some of our friends who live with no one else and don't work outside the home. It probably affects our perception of relative risk.

 

[am1]

I went back and read the guidance from the state and they are still saying that outdoors is ok. Which is where I thought we were. They also mentioned that you need to keep things to three households. I appreciate and agree with your concern and if things get worse then our plans may change.

Btw with respect to masks I meant that I'm still wrapping my head around it. Most of us are wearing them all day anyway but it would feel odd to wear them inside of my house. BTW, my nephew who is on the Roosevelt has been living with us since returning in July and I'm pretty thankful that they are deploying again. That's been quite a nail biter for us as he has been on the ship with thousands of others almost every day since July and coming to our home every night. And none of us wore a mask inside of our home because technically he's in our pod and I just can't wear a mask 24/7. Now that he's gone our potential circle is infinitely smaller. Some people can move through this much easier than others. Our situation has been a lot different that that of some of our friends who live with no one else and don't work outside the home. It probably affects our perception of relative risk.

Technically means nothing when one is exposed to thousands a day.

 

[Ken555]

I went back and read the guidance from the state and they are still saying that outdoors is ok. Which is where I thought we were. They also mentioned that you need to keep things to three households. I appreciate and agree with your concern and if things get worse then our plans may change.

Guidance for the Prevention of COVID-19 Transmission for Gatherings November 2020

www.cdph.ca.gov

Yes, it suggests three households...but that may be too generous. Also, note it also states to keep gatherings less than two hours.

 

[klpca]

Technically means nothing when one is exposed to thousands a day.

Yet here we are with no transmission. He wears a mask all day as do his coworkers. Seems to be working as expected.

Guidance for the Prevention of COVID-19 Transmission for Gatherings November 2020

www.cdph.ca.gov

Yes, it suggests three households...but that may be too generous. Also, note it also states to keep gatherings less than two hours.

Noted.

Bye guys!

 

[pedro47]

Just received an email from Celebrity Cruise Lines all Apex cruises over seven (7) days for 2022 have been canceled. No reason given.

 

[TravelTime]

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[am1]

Yet here we are with no transmission. He wears a mask all day as do his coworkers. Seems to be working as expected.

Noted.

Bye guys!

Until it does not work. Or you were all asymptomatic.

 

[dioxide45]

Just received an email from Celebrity Cruise Lines all Apex cruises over seven (7) days for 2022 have been canceled. No reason given.

CDC guidelines are indicating no cruises longer than seven days for the return to cruising.

 

[dioxide45]

My wife saw today, not sure where, that Carnival cancelled all cruises through January 31st 2021.

 

[CPNY]

Illinois health director ... thanksgiving guests may not be alive at Christmas. https://www.chicagotribune.com/subu...0201027-j7wjzdb2ufgy3htb5mdsqyanaa-story.html

Sooo the health director of Illinois advises against cruises? Lol.

 

[Ken555]

My wife saw today, not sure where, that Carnival cancelled all cruises through January 31st 2021.

And some into March.

Cruise giant Carnival cancels all sailings into February, some into March - The Points Guy

Carnival Cruise Line hasn't operated a single departure since March due to the COVID-19 outbreak.

thepointsguy.com

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[Ken555]

Princess Cruises Extends Pause of Global Ship Operations into 2021

/PRNewswire/ -- In response to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) "Framework for Conditional Sailing Order" pertaining to resumption of...

www.prnewswire.com

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[pedro47]

Today’s USA newspaper is reporting that the cruise industry so far for 2020, have loss over 32 billion dollars in the economy and over 240,000 American have loss jobs because of COVID-19.

 

[pedro47]

I feel Americans cruisers will be only allow to cruise to the Caribbean in 2021 because all the new U.S. Centers for Disease Control requirements.

 

[TravelTime]

Our Disney cruise for January 2021 was canceled and we rebooked for same dates in 2022 (my daughter’s birthday week). I expected it to get canceled. We paid in full knowing it would get canceled so we could rebook with the 125% cruise credit. Now we have an extra $3500 for activities and excursions. I am happy because I doubt we would have sailed in January 2021 even if Disney was sailing.