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Coronavirus Cases Are Accelerating Across U.S.

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true, but who has never had lingering flu effects for weeks if not even months? Have we forgotten so fast?

This is from the first link below:
"Patients who survive influenza A (H7N9) virus infection are at risk of physical and psychological complications of lung injury and multi-organ dysfunction. However, there were no prospectively individualized assessments of physiological, functional and quality-of-life measures after hospital discharge. The current study aims to assess the main determinants of functional disability of these patients during the follow-up. Fifty-six influenza A (H7N9) survivors were investigated during the 2-year after discharge from the hospital. Results show interstitial change and fibrosis on pulmonary imaging remained 6 months after hospital discharge. Both ventilation and diffusion dysfunction improved, but restrictive and obstructive patterns on ventilation function test persisted throughout the follow-up period. For patients with acute respiratory distress syndrome lung functions improved faster during the first six months. Role-physical and Role-emotional domains in the 36-Item Short-Form Health Survey were worse than those of a sex- and age-matched general population group. The quality of life of survivors with ARDS was lower than those with no ARDS. Our findings suggest that pulmonary function and imaging findings improved during the first 6 months especially for those with ARDS, however long-term lung disability and psychological impairment in H7N9 survivors persisted at 2 years after discharge from the hospital"



 

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The median age of those infected has dropped a lot. I believe in FL it is now 35 (don't quote me on that exact figure).
Everyone is getting tested here in Florida. Not to mention, people being admitted to the hospital that would have been sent home a Month ago
 

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Everyone is getting tested here in Florida. Not to mention, people being admitted to the hospital that would have been sent home a Month ago
Is this new? I've been talking to my bff, who lives there, every week and she hasn't mentioned it. I haven't talked to her yet this week though.
 

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Everyone is getting tested here in Florida. Not to mention, people being admitted to the hospital that would have been sent home a Month ago
Is this really happening. Do you have a source.
 

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The median age of those infected has dropped a lot. I believe in FL it is now 35 (don't quote me on that exact figure).
I saw this on the Florida C19 dashboard. The real shocker was the fact that the majority of the new cases are in the 25-34 year age group.

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I saw this on the Florida C19 dashboard. The real shocker was the fact that the majority of the new cases are in the 25-34 year age group.

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I posted about this a few days ago. The case rate is very high . But hospitals have no strain on the system. Median age has plummeted which is a GOOD THING. Docs are reporting less acute cases that are in hospital and shorter stays. The majority of people getting sick now are going to recover quickly .
 

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I posted about this a few days ago. The case rate is very high . But hospitals have no strain on the system. Median age has plummeted which is a GOOD THING. Docs are reporting less acute cases that are in hospital and shorter stays. The majority of people getting sick now are going to recover quickly .
If you changed that to "the majority of people getting sick now may recover quickly I would be happier. There was various articles stating that younger people may not recover as quickly as originally thought.
 
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There was various articles stating that younger people may not recover as quickly as originally thought.
were those scientific studies?
 

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were those scientific studies?
Was there a scientific study saying The majority of people getting sick now are going to recover quickly ? Provide one for that and I'll see what I can dig up on my statement. I know one was from Johns Hopkins.
 

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Was there a scientific study saying The majority of people getting sick now are going to recover quickly ? Provide one for that and I'll see what I can dig up on my statement. I know one was from Johns Hopkins.
I did not say that but what she meant is that the average age of those sick is much lower now so they should recover quickly, it is pretty obvious if you compare with older people. If you can now please provide the study.
 
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interesting article about people who may still test positive but they are fully recovered and most likely do not spread the virus

Positive Covid-19 tests kept a mom and baby apart for 55 days. Experts see it as a bigger testing problem
 

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Everyone is getting tested here in Florida. ...
Could you explain?

From the Miami Herald...Testing in Florida has seen steady growth. Experts suggest it's still not enough. A recent study in Miami-Dade County found that current limited testing capacity indicates the actual infection rate is likely ten times higher.

While I haven't counted, Florida ranks about toward the middle of the pack with regard to the number of people tested per million among the fifty states.

So, I am not sure what you are saying.
 

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I posted about this a few days ago. The case rate is very high . But hospitals have no strain on the system. Median age has plummeted which is a GOOD THING. Docs are reporting less acute cases that are in hospital and shorter stays. The majority of people getting sick now are going to recover quickly .
Less acute with shorter stays, which means patients presenting with symptoms they would have been sent home with a month or two ago. If I showed up to the hospital today with the same symptoms I had in March, I’d be admitted and put on oxygen. Now, those same cases are going in, getting a bed and going home. The health system collect a fat check.
 

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Less acute with shorter stays, which means patients presenting with symptoms they would have been sent home with a month or two ago. If I showed up to the hospital today with the same symptoms I had in March, I’d be admitted and put on oxygen. Now, those same cases are going in, getting a bed and going home. The health system collect a fat check.
YUP -- and many hospitalizations that are now listed as "a Covid hospitalization" are due to the fact that someone is in hospital who HAS Covid, they are not in the hospital BECAUSE of Covid.
 

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Less acute with shorter stays, which means patients presenting with symptoms they would have been sent home with a month or two ago. If I showed up to the hospital today with the same symptoms I had in March, I’d be admitted and put on oxygen. Now, those same cases are going in, getting a bed and going home. The health system collect a fat check.
The hospitals have a financial incentive to admit patients with milder symptoms since the feds are subsidizing all the Covid related treatments.
 

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I heard this afternoon that Los Angeles is anticipating hospital utilization at 100% next week. I’m still searching for details on this, but with the increase in cases it makes sense to me.


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I did not say that but what she meant is that the average age of those sick is much lower now so they should recover quickly, it is pretty obvious if you compare with older people. If you can now please provide the study.
So I can make a statement and have to provide proof of a scientific study. But others, in this case Cornell can put a statement out there.

Would you have been happier if I'd just asked her to change the words?

And where is your scientific study proving the average age of those sick is much lower now so they should recover quickly.
 

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States reported 575 US COV2 deaths today. That's the lowest Tuesday figure since Mar 24 and down from last week's 703. The 7-day avg falls to 525.
 

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YUP -- and many hospitalizations that are now listed as "a Covid hospitalization" are due to the fact that someone is in hospital who HAS Covid, they are not in the hospital BECAUSE of Covid.
Can you give a source for this, I cannot find any reference to good hospital numbers in FL. Also I would think a hospital would want to know if a patient has covid. I wonder why you would see something nefarious in a DR doing a test and making a diagnosis. What is more important is whether a patient needs to be treated different due to a diagnosed illness. Here is the best I can find on FL. It chronicles the increase of close to 3 fold of Emergency Department visits due to flu or covid like illness in the 2 weeks leading up to the week of 6/15.




then navigate to the health metrics tab.
 

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One may wonder if those younger and not as severely ill had to be hospitalized at all:

"The patients are younger and not as severely ill as they were during the first wave in April, and doctors and nurses have gained valuable experience in the months-long pandemic — leading to shorter hospital stays and better outcomes "

 

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One may wonder if those younger and not as severely ill had to be hospitalized at all:

"The patients are younger and not as severely ill as they were during the first wave in April, and doctors and nurses have gained valuable experience in the months-long pandemic — leading to shorter hospital stays and better outcomes "

Is this a scientific study.
 

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Yes, I'm not sure that "govtech.com" is any kind of credible source.

ICUs are filling up, based on *both* COVID-19 cases and delayed care. This fact, combined with increased cases, is not a good thing in any way, shape, or form.

And we need waaaaay more testing. And waaaay more contact tracing. Because it is in the testing, and the contact tracing, and the isolation of those that interacted with a positive person, can we ever hope to reduce the PREVENTABLE deaths from COVID-19. And the quicker we do this, the quicker we can get back to "normal." (Although, I would posit, the pandemic is showing how not-great the before "normal" was in the US, and I hope we come through this into something *better* than we were before.)
 

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Can you give a source for this, I cannot find any reference to good hospital numbers in FL. Also I would think a hospital would want to know if a patient has covid. I wonder why you would see something nefarious in a DR doing a test and making a diagnosis. What is more important is whether a patient needs to be treated different due to a diagnosed illness. Here is the best I can find on FL. It chronicles the increase of close to 3 fold of Emergency Department visits due to flu or covid like illness in the 2 weeks leading up to the week of 6/15.




then navigate to the health metrics tab.
"About a quarter of all patients admitted to the city’s main public hospital over the past two weeks tested positive for the coronavirus, including those who came in from car crashes, heart attacks and other problems."



I don't think it's nefarious at all to think that a dr, should be testing for C19. Not sure why you inferred that from my comments. Of course, all patients in a hospital should be tested for C19, no matter why they are there. It's a contagious disease.

I'm just trying to make the point that an increase in hospitalizations isn't necessarily b/c someone walked in saying "I'm sick with C19". Now that the hospitals are open for elective surgeries, people going to the ER, etc, it stands to reason that patients will be admitted for other reasons and then discovered that they have C19. They will then be classified as a hospitalization w/C19.
 
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