Coronavirus Cases Are Accelerating Across U.S.

[Passepartout]

I enjoy hearing different points of view. It has been a big surprise to me how differently people think. It is good to hear a different viewpoint.

BTW, I heard from CASA today and I will be participating in the August training. Hopefully, this will be a meaningful experience and something I will enjoy in my old age. LOL

My wish for you: an old age. At this stage of Covid-19, I'm thinking that the odds of much more 'old age' is at best, a crapshoot. It might happen, but already aged, and with higher risk factors, I'm not real optimistic. If this isolation continues for, say, another year, our physical and mental health as well as the economy in general is iffy.

Jim

 

["Roger"]

Congrats on CASA. As someone suggested, this should become a separate thread.

At times it has been painful, but it has been good for me to see how some people think.

 

[Ken555]

I'm speechless. Actually there are so many things I could say, but won't.

I’m not surprised. Unlike the false story about Washington earlier this year, this one in Alabama appears real. Sadly, it’s not likely to be the last.


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[TravelTime]

My wish for you: an old age. At this stage of Covid-19, I'm thinking that the odds of much more 'old age' is at best, a crapshoot. It might happen, but already aged, and with higher risk factors, I'm not real optimistic. If this isolation continues for, say, another year, our physical and mental health as well as the economy in general is iffy.

Jim

It is depressing to think we might not have an old age. I am still optimistic that we will get through Covid and it will not kill most people. However, I am more worried about continued isolation and what it will do to mental health, relationships, jobs, the economy, and all the other non-health factors. If this goes on and on, we will all need to adjust to a new reality. I hope it goes will for everyone, I really do.

 

[TravelTime]

Congrats on CASA. As someone suggested, this should become a separate thread.

At times it has been painful, but it has been good for me to see how some people think.

Yes I will start a CASA thread. I will share my experience and how others can relate. There are a lot of Tuggers who do good volunteer work and help their families and communities. It would nice to talk about how we are making the world a better place. We get too caught up in this Covid stuff when there are still ways we can make life meaningful.

 

[bbodb1]

COVID parties? Great. Do they play a few rounds of Russian Roulette, too?

.that is likely referred to as the lightning round...

 

[bbodb1]

Yes I will start a CASA thread.

Excellent!

 

[DannyTS]

The number of daily new cases of COVID-19 in Texas is now larger than it was in Italy at the worst point of the crisis. Texas has less than half the population of Italy. Death rates in Texas also increased dramatically on June 30th.

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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/texas/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

Is there any point in comparing? The fatality rate in Italy was 8% at that time so clearly they were not testing much.

 

[cman]

Is there any point in comparing? The fatality rate in Italy was 8% at that time so clearly they were not testing much.

Your correlation of fatality rate and testing literally makes no sense. We botched the testing, at the time of their peak their testing capability was well ahead of ours. Looking for logic in your statement, just not finding it.

 

[Cornell]

I enjoy hearing different points of view. It has been a big surprise to me how differently people think. It is good to hear a different viewpoint.

BTW, I heard from CASA today and I will be participating in the August training. Hopefully, this will be a meaningful experience and something I will enjoy in my old age. LOL

YAAAAAAY. I'm very happy about this CASA development. They are lucky to have you. And as others have said, please keep us informed.

I , too, like to hear differing points of view. And to express mine - hahahahahaha - much to the dismay of others on TUG. In all seriousness, I have come to realize that we are all approaching this with different states of mind.

BTW, I had dinner tonight w/a friend of mine who I haven't talked with much in 6 months. I was surprised to learn during our conversation that her husband got sick with C19 back in late March. She , nor their 3 kids, got sick. All sharing the same house and they weren't doing anything "Chris Cuomo" style like having dad shoved in the basement. They continued living together per usual other than washing hands more often and being a bit more mindful of cleaning.

 

[am1]

YAAAAAAY. I'm very happy about this CASA development. They are lucky to have you. And as others have said, please keep us informed.

I , too, like to hear differing points of view. And to express mine - hahahahahaha - much to the dismay of others on TUG. In all seriousness, I have come to realize that we are all approaching this with different states of mind.

BTW, I had dinner tonight w/a friend of mine who I haven't talked with much in 6 months. I was surprised to learn during our conversation that her husband got sick with C19 back in late March. She , nor their 3 kids, got sick. All sharing the same house and they weren't doing anything "Chris Cuomo" style like having dad shoved in the basement. They continued living together per usual other than washing hands more often and being a bit more mindful of cleaning.

Did not get sick or did not test positive. Very different with the first one par for the course for a lot/ almost most people.

 

[TravelTime]

YAAAAAAY. I'm very happy about this CASA development. They are lucky to have you. And as others have said, please keep us informed.

I , too, like to hear differing points of view. And to express mine - hahahahahaha - much to the dismay of others on TUG. In all seriousness, I have come to realize that we are all approaching this with different states of mind.

BTW, I had dinner tonight w/a friend of mine who I haven't talked with much in 6 months. I was surprised to learn during our conversation that her husband got sick with C19 back in late March. She , nor their 3 kids, got sick. All sharing the same house and they weren't doing anything "Chris Cuomo" style like having dad shoved in the basement. They continued living together per usual other than washing hands more often and being a bit more mindful of cleaning.

Yes, not everyone gets the virus in the same household. In our community, the first person to get covid recovered and her husband never got it. This is the same with all viruses. When I was a kid, my brother got chickpox and I did not. In February, my husband had a virus and I did not get it. This virus can be selective.

 

[Ken555]

Yes, not everyone gets the virus in the same household. In our community, the first person to get covid recovered and her husband never got it. This is the same with all viruses. When I was a kid, my brother got chickpox and I did not. In February, my husband had a virus and I did not get it. This virus can be selective.

Or... they are asymptomatic.


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[DannyTS]

Your correlation of fatality rate and testing literally makes no sense. We botched the testing, at the time of their peak their testing capability was well ahead of ours. Looking for logic in your statement, just not finding it.

He was comparing new cases in Italy in March with new cases in Texas in late June (!). Do you think the Italians were testing at that time as much as they are testing in the US right now? No they weren't and that is why the new cases were not that many but they had a lot of people who died. In need for a brighter light?

 

[DannyTS]

Or... they are asymptomatic.


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I know a doctor from NYC, she was positive, living with her husband and the two kids in a tiny apartment. She was sick, the husband and the kids never got it and they were tested several times. Given the circumstances they thought the whole family should have been sick.

 

[klpca]

I know a doctor from NYC, she was positive, living with her husband and the two kids in a tiny apartment. She was sick, the husband and the kids never got it and they were tested several times. Given the circumstances they thought the whole family should have been sick.

And our commercial property manager's family all got it - kids through seniors. A 56 year old family member died.

 

[DannyTS]

And our commercial property manager's family all got it - kids through seniors. A 56 year old family member died.

Are we underestimating how many people are resistant to Covid-19?

Are we underestimating how many people are resistant to Covid-19?

Scientists are racing to work out why some populations are more protected against Covid-19 than others

www.theguardian.com

 

[Cornell]

Are we underestimating how many people are resistant to Covid-19?

Are we underestimating how many people are resistant to Covid-19?

Scientists are racing to work out why some populations are more protected against Covid-19 than others

www.theguardian.com

This is really interesting. Thanks for sharing

 

[cman]

He was comparing new cases in Italy in March with new cases in Texas in late June (!). Do you think the Italians were testing at that time as much as they are testing in the US right now? No they weren't and that is why the new cases were not that many but they had a lot of people who died. In need for a brighter light?

I still don't get your correlation between fatality rate and testing. Are you saying that more testing decreases the fatality rate or what? How are you correlating the two?

 

[Ken555]

Internal Messages Reveal Crisis at Houston Hospitals as Coronavirus Cases Surge

Texas was one of the first states in the nation to ease social distancing mandates. In Houston, the number of patients hospitalized with COVID-19 has quadrupled since Memorial Day. “It’s time to be alarmed,” one expert said.

Internal messages reveal crisis at Houston hospitals as cases surge — ProPublica

Texas was one of the first states in the nation to ease social distancing mandates. In Houston, the number of patients hospitalized with COVID-19 has quadrupled since Memorial Day. “It’s time to be alarmed,” one expert said.

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[DannyTS]

But how come that in Europe and in Canada where the measures were relaxed the number of new cases has continued to go down? Maybe the protests have played a much bigger role than thought.

 

[DannyTS]

Most People With Coronavirus Won’t Spread It. Why Do a Few Infect Many?

Most People With Coronavirus Won’t Spread It. Why Do a Few Infect Many?

Growing evidence shows most infected people aren’t spreading the virus. But whether you become a superspreader probably depends more on circumstance than biology.

www.nytimes.com

 

[amycurl]

Yes, but the issue is that there is no way to determine who is a superspreader and who is not. And you can't self-determine that either. And when even otherwise-healthy, young people end up hospitalized or dead, saying "if you're at risk, take extra precautions" is not enough, either....because it's not *just* those at higher-risk that are dying.

Right now, I am taking my break between my end-of-the-week emergency management calls. In our county, the vast majority of those infected and hospitalized are now under 45. This is the time of the week that I am at my most pessimistic, because it is when I hear the hard data from the infectious disease managers and emergency managers that are providing the guidance for everyone else in the community.

 

[klpca]

Most People With Coronavirus Won’t Spread It. Why Do a Few Infect Many?

Most People With Coronavirus Won’t Spread It. Why Do a Few Infect Many?

Growing evidence shows most infected people aren’t spreading the virus. But whether you become a superspreader probably depends more on circumstance than biology.

www.nytimes.com

I found this part interesting: "Since most transmission happens only in a small number of similar situations, it may be possible to come up with smart strategies to stop them from happening. It may be possible to avoid crippling, across-the-board lockdowns by targeting the superspreading events."
It would be nice if we could stop the spread of the virus without stopping our entire economy. We are going backwards right now.

 

[SmithOp]

But how come that in Europe and in Canada where the measures were relaxed the number of new cases has continued to go down? Maybe the protests have played a much bigger role than thought.

I doubt you can pin it on a single factor like protests. Here in southern CA fingers are pointing at folks on the beach and in bars, people exploded out of their homes recently when the restrictions were lifted, many without masks.

I monitor a few local FB chat pages and young people seem to think this whole pandemic is a conspiracy, and masks are for old folks. The demographics here on TUG are the opposite, more in my age group that are proceeding with caution and more likely to follow rules and social norms. Its an interesting dichotomy to observe.

I went to the beach last weekend, it was packed, all the parking lots full, large gatherings of people with no masks anywhere. We ended up just sitting in our car in the parking lot, had a little picnic and enjoyed the sun and cool sea breeze.

I don’t know how they socialize in EU or Canada but maybe more people are following suggestions for social distance, masks, and cleaning.


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