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Is there a limit on number of days to stay in one location using Trust Points? Some sales people have tried to convince me that we should buy enough points that will allow us to "winter" in a warm climate place for January-March. The point calculator only goes 21 days.
 

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No limit. Just book multiple reservations. You can stay 365/366 nights if you have the points and availability is there.
 

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I think you can also call and the CSRs can do larger reservations.

Now, as far as the sales pitch goes, there are way cheaper ways than DC points to winter in a warmer climate, depending on how you define "warmer".
 

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I think you can also call and the CSRs can do larger reservations.

Now, as far as the sales pitch goes, there are way cheaper ways than DC points to winter in a warmer climate, depending on how you define "warmer".
Thanks a bunch, please provide your thoughts pertaining on other ways to winter in Florida, Arizona, California, etc... besides renting directly via vrbo.
 

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Purchase resale weeks for good trading resorts like Grand Chateau, Grande Vista, Desert Springs. Make sure they are lockoffs. Reserve your weeks that have the highest trading power in Interval, then lock them off and deposit into interval and find the best weeks you can via trading. You can also grab some getaways in December for Florida and other warm places.

You're probably not going to get Palm Beaches or Aruba in February, but using that strategy plus supplementing it with DC points I'm spending 19 days in November at Barony Beach Club in Hilton Head, then 19 days in Orlando in December (haven't decided which resort yet), Christmas and New Year's weeks in Orlando at Grande Vista, then about a month in Hilton Head again before we come home. For the time being we're going to come back home Feb/Mar (I like March in Maryland), but it wouldn't be expensive to stretch out Hilton Head into those time frames as long as you don't need Oceanfront or South Florida.

Using points only to do all that would be well over 10K points. I think I used about 3K plus two Accommodation Certificates from II and one week deposited, locked off, and traded back into two weeks.

The California desert resorts are a lot like Hilton Head as far as availability goes (plenty in Fall and into January, nada in March/April unless you have a REALLY good trader) - just too far for us to drive while I'm still employed (I work from home so can bring my work stuff wherever I go).

It's quite a game and I spent a few hours playing around on Interval and asking a ton of questions on TUG, and I'm still a total newbie at this so I would imagine there are even better ways to accomplish "wintering" without having to buy 15,000 DC points and paying the $8K/year in maintenance fees.
 

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Some sales people have tried to convince me that we should buy enough points that will allow us to "winter" in a warm climate place for January-March....please provide your thoughts pertaining on other ways to winter in Florida, Arizona, California, etc...
If you have one place in mind then the easiest/cheapest way would be to buy resale weeks at that location and reserve them consecutively at 13 months. The places you listed aren't Hawaii or the Caribbean so the prices should be quite reasonable and the demand not quite so fierce.

That said, I do know that there are people who own 4-8 weeks at Waiohai (Kauai) and/or Maui Ocean Club and 'winter' at MVC. But that will be more pricey.
 

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If you have one place in mind then the easiest/cheapest way would be to buy resale weeks at that location and reserve them consecutively at 13 months. The places you listed aren't Hawaii or the Caribbean so the prices should be quite reasonable and the demand not quite so fierce.

That said, I do know that there are people who own 4-8 weeks at Waiohai (Kauai) and/or Maui Ocean Club and 'winter' at MVC. But that will be more pricey.

We actually did some math on this (not looking to do it yet, but just seeing what it would cost) for wintering at Ocean Pointe. If you were to pick up 12 platinum weeks, you'd be in for about $150-200K in resale acquisition costs for 2 BR Oceanfront (assuming it all passes ROFR), and then $20K/year in maintenance fees. Sounds pricey, but let's say you buy an oceanfront condo at a complex with similar amenities - you're probably looking at upper six-figures or $1M plus maintenance/HOA fees that'll probably run almost $1K/month.

I'm not in that spending class yet so we're going to slum it in Hilton Head and Orlando for the winter. :)
 

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Thanks a bunch, please provide your thoughts pertaining on other ways to winter in Florida, Arizona, California, etc... besides renting directly via vrbo.



Buy eight lockoff weeks in the resale market and that will give you four months in one location (assuming you lock them off).



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We own 14 MOCs and 9 Marriott HHI units and our ultimate dream is to regularly spend 4-6 weeks in both locations every year. God willing we're no more than 5 years away from achieving this. At first I was thinking it would be great to spend 6 straight weeks some where but the more I think about it I think life, and hopefully grandkids will make multiple shorter vacations more feasible, maybe 3 weeks here and 3 weeks there. We'll have 12 even year and 10 odd year 2BDRM MOCs and if you manage them right we can rent some and use some to break even on MFs and spend 6-8 weeks and with the 9 HHIs spend a month in fabulous SC and rent some to offset costs. I'd be lying if I said I didn't think of it on a daily basis.
 

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We are in Hilton Head now for 2 months. To reserve more than 21 days, you either have to make multiple reservations or call and reserve them over the phone. In my opinion, owning 8 winter weeks in Hilton Head would be an expensive way to go about this. II getaways may be a bit less expensive, but what we’ve done is turned in one of our KoOlina weeks for points and can stay a couple months in December and January. If you don’t have to be on a beach, it’s not pricey at all—400 points a week at Sunset Pointe.

We are having a great time. No crowds and great restaurant specials in winter.
 

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A Canadian friend of mine owns a condo in Fort Myers, Florida . For years he has rented it December through March to the same couple. Seems to work for both of them. The couple renting from him has a place with no hassle every Winter. The rent my friend receives covers 100% of the condo's annual expenses plus a good amount extra. The extra he deposits in a US Bank Account. This has built into a nice sum over the years. A side benefit of this is that he doesn't have to worry about converting Canadian to US Dollars when he visits the US...

George
 

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How much is a lockoff fee typically if you have a 2BR or 3BR lock off? I've assumed $100 in my "annual fees" example below. Do you have to tell Marriott you want to lock off or do you tell interval? It's still a mystery to me

3BR Grand Chateau MF are $2000 (approx)
Undiscounted Interval Membership (+Platinum) $240
Lockoff Fee (I'll assume $100)
Exchange #1 for a 2BR - $160
EPLUS on Exchange #1 for $60
Exchange #2 for a 1BR $160
Upgrade Fee on Exchange #2 to a 2BR $60
EPLUS on Exchange #2 for $60

= $2840 to get 2 weeklong 2BR stays (with the option to add guest certs and re-trade up to 3x if necessary)

Seems like a great deal assuming you can get the trades you want. Would be really cool to get back to back weeks. One other question I had was on trading, if I only have a 1BR to trade will interval still show me 2BR's (plus the added fee) if that's all they have available at a specific resort?

One other question I had
 

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How much is a lockoff fee typically if you have a 2BR or 3BR lock off? I've assumed $100 in my "annual fees" example below. Do you have to tell Marriott you want to lock off or do you tell interval? It's still a mystery to me

3BR Grand Chateau MF are $2000 (approx)
Undiscounted Interval Membership (+Platinum) $240
Lockoff Fee (I'll assume $100)
Exchange #1 for a 2BR - $160
EPLUS on Exchange #1 for $60
Exchange #2 for a 1BR $160
Upgrade Fee on Exchange #2 to a 2BR $60
EPLUS on Exchange #2 for $60

= $2840 to get 2 weeklong 2BR stays (with the option to add guest certs and re-trade up to 3x if necessary)

Seems like a great deal assuming you can get the trades you want. Would be really cool to get back to back weeks. One other question I had was on trading, if I only have a 1BR to trade will interval still show me 2BR's (plus the added fee) if that's all they have available at a specific resort?

One other question I had

Your analysis is about how I approach it. The key then is to maximize the value of that $2840 you spent, like I wouldn't trade into Orlando at all or Hilton Head outside May - August as I can pull those with studios at MGV gold season. If you can snag two weeks in Hawaii or Hilton Head summer or Ocean Pointe around President's Day that's a great trade ROI.
 

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Is there a limit on number of days to stay in one location using Trust Points? Some sales people have tried to convince me that we should buy enough points that will allow us to "winter" in a warm climate place for January-March. The point calculator only goes 21 days.
Tell the sales person there area kites of points your can rent for less than the MF with no upfront costs.
 

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I don't know if it applies here, but I've read that max hotel stays in some places is 28 days. After that, your status changes to more of a tenant requiring eviction etc and the properties don't want that. Many make you leave for a night. On another note, you can look at cheap II getaways for extended trips. We've done that before.
 

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I don't know if it applies here, but I've read that max hotel stays in some places is 28 days. After that, your status changes to more of a tenant requiring eviction etc and the properties don't want that. Many make you leave for a night. On another note, you can look at cheap II getaways for extended trips. We've done that before.
This definitely does not apply to MVC resorts, as we stay for more than 28 days in the same resort every year, actually closer to 60 days and friends stay much longer than that!
 

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This definitely does not apply to MVC resorts, as we stay for more than 28 days in the same resort every year, actually closer to 60 days and friends stay much longer than that!
I am speaking more of US locations-but certainly wouldn't be surprised if they were an exception in the US too.
 

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I am speaking more of US locations-but certainly wouldn't be surprised if they were an exception in the US too.

Your original quote on this was false. Most hotels survive on business travelers not spotty tourism. Some hotels like Residence Inn re specifically geared for long term stays. You are correct that you get tenant status after a certain amount of days. It’s 30 days. At that point they take off the tax. I know this because for 10 years I worked as a night auditor for Marriott in my 20’s.
 

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Your original quote on this was false. Most hotels survive on business travelers not spotty tourism. Some hotels like Residence Inn re specifically geared for long term stays. You are correct that you get tenant status after a certain amount of days. It’s 30 days. At that point they take off the tax. I know this because for 10 years I worked as a night auditor for Marriott in my 20’s.
Not false-though the tax is correct. Hotels do ask people to leave at 30 days so they don't gain tenant status. Maybe not all, but some do. Flyertalk mentions this a lot.
 
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