Jestjoan
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arlene22 said:It took a while to read, but it was fascinating. Thanks for posting.
Not unlike timeshare sales. The savvy people get on the internet at the resort and do research right before or soon after the sales presentation. The others generally overpay.NormanC said:Very entertaining and informative article. Thanks for posting it.
The sad thing is that the uninformed and naive customers that the dealers fleece are the ones that keep the dealership doors open now that more and more folks are going the internet route. Which means of course that the poor and uneducated are getting poorer...
T_R_Oglodyte said:Not unlike timeshare sales. The savvy people get on the internet at the resort and do research right before or soon after the sales presentation. The others generally overpay.
I think that one of stongest motivations for getting educated is the realization that your ignorance is allowing other people to take advantage of you.
Almost exactly our situation as well. We were at the Marriott Kauai Beach Club. The salesman absoultely and totally sold us on the value of timeshares. That night, I connected to the internet on dial-up from the room phone, and started learning.BocaBum99 said:This explains my situation exactly. I really fell in love with the timeshare concept after spending 6 hours asking questions to my sales guy. He was very honest and knowledgeable. I bought from him and at first I was really excited.
But, I kept waking up in the middle of the night while on my vacation in Hawaii thinking that for some reason I was getting ripped off.
I spent the next 5 or 6 days of my Hawaii vacation researching the internet to prove it one way or another. That's when I found TUG and Redweek. After making a couple of offers, I knew I was getting ripped off by buying from the developer. I rescinded my deals while on the islands. Whew! Thanks TUG.
No dicker won't work as long as auto dealers are prevented from selling directly to the public. An auto maker should be able to institute no dicker selling, post a price on the internet, and make that the price for the car, tax, title, shipping, regiistration not included. Buyers get that price whether they order on line or go to a dealer. But dealers have effectively prevented auto makers from doing direct sales.Mosca said:No dicker dealerships don't work. Almost every customer takes the "one price" offer to the dealer across town to see if they can beat it. I've been making a living in retail automotive sales and management for 20+ years. Very often what people say they want and what they really want are two very different things. You have to pay attention to what people do, not what people say.
Tom
T_R_Oglodyte said:Almost exactly our situation as well. We were at the Marriott Kauai Beach Club. The salesman absoultely and totally sold us on the value of timeshares. That night, I connected to the internet on dial-up from the room phone, and started learning.
Later during that trip, we stumbled across a Timeshare Resales Hawaii office, and found out more about the resale market. Before we left the islands, we had decided that Embassy was where we wanted to buy, and we sent the rescinding papers for Maririott the day after we got back.
T_R_Oglodyte said:No dicker won't work as long as auto dealers are prevented from selling directly to the public. An auto maker should be able to institute no dicker selling, post a price on the internet, and make that the price for the car, tax, title, shipping, regiistration not included. Buyers get that price whether they order on line or go to a dealer. But dealers have effectively prevented auto makers from doing direct sales.
mtngal said:Which brings up another point - I got a pretty reasonable deal on a vehicle (money-wise, bought after a quick 3 minute test drive) but a month later, discovered the seats were very uncomfortable for longer drives. To me, that vehicle was certainly NOT worth the money I paid for it, and I resented it for all of the 4 years I owned it (couldn't afford to sell it before that - if I could have, I would have and happily eaten the thousands I would have lost on it. As it was, I got my money's worth out of it, though not happily).
ricoba said:Amen! This is the case with our 2002 Chevy Trailblazer. Anymore I prefer driving our old worn out, but soft as a cloud 1990 Oldsmobile 98 over the Chevy, because of the seats...I guess I know what part of the vehicle Chevy meant with their "Like a Rock" campaign
If the car that you are interested in is in rental fleets, another option is to rent the car that you are interested in for a weekend. That way you can get some extended time with the vehicle, and get a sense for what it is like after it has seen a bit of use.Mosca said:LOL, I love the Trailblazer seats. My neighbor hated them. My dad loves them, he has over 120,000 miles on his.
ALWAYS take a test drive before buying, as long a drive as the dealer will let you.
Tom