Capital Vacations is dropping Interval International as the exchange company.

[jules54]

In my personal opinion, the best advice might be to avoid anything and everything involving Capital Vacations in any way, whenever humanly possible.

I might agree if we didn’t already own the contracts and love the high quality of exchanges with Interval. So we have to find the best solutions. I havnt looked into trading places yet. I have RCI with my Wyndham ownership

 

[gravityrules]

Grand Crowne sold their own points product (based on a floating deed or a converted fixed week deed) that had a specific (quite favorable to the Grande Crowne owner) exchange chart with II. It seems Grand Crowne also had II running the reservation/exchange system for them.

In reference to this point system, 'Grand Crowne' is not just one resort, there's also mention of 'Carriage Place' ... so think 'mini-system'.

This is not II CIG (Club Interval Gold) even though the point ranges are similar. I included some CIG info below for comparison.


Here is a related TUG thread from July 2008, I highlighted a couple of points relative to this discussion.

https://tugbbs.com/forums/threads/surrey-grand-crowne-resort-questions.76302/


I have a chance to pick up 100,000 points annually for $100.00 this includes closing costs. I understand that this is considered a 5 Star with II and the sale also includes II annual membership. MF's are $566.00 per year.
I know nothing about how points work as my other timeshares are floating weeks. Is this a good deal and how do points work with II? I would only buy this as trade stock, I would probably never go there. I need advice please. I have 24 hours to decide.
Suzanne

This deal sounds funny to me. I own at Grand crowne and I am looking at my point book and it does not have a 100,000 point week. The smallest A unit is 68500 for a red week and 47500 for yellow weeks 1-9. Next is C unit which is 78500 & 55000. Last is B unit the largest which is 97000 & 68500. Of course you can combine A-B or B-C or A-B-C but that would all cost over 100,000 points. Also maint. fees are charged per bedroom owned, 1 bed = $ 402.00, 2 bed = 604.00 and 3 bedrooms are 806.00 so you maint fee seems off.
Check it out and find out more detail and I will be glad to help. Right now it just does not seem right.
Steve

Suzanne,
According to my points book, it sounds like it is a mid-season (week 1-9) two bedroom B unit in building G, H or I at the Carriage Place. The maintenance fees are a little lower there than at the Grand Crowne Country Club. The sales price is right but I have seen better buys out there when you compare maintenance fees to the number of points you are getting. The maintenance fees of the 2 bedroom unit is the same whether it is a prime season week or a mid-season week but the number of points for a prime season week in that unit is 150,000 points compared to 100,000 for the mid season week. Recently a 3 br penthouse unit sold on E-Bay for $1136 + $549 for closing costs and transfer fee. The number of points was 375,00 points (It must be one of the new Royal Suites which we were shown at the owner update) and the MF is $812. The initial cost is higher but for only $246 more in maintenance fees you would get 375,000 points instead of 100,000 points. If you exchange through II in prime season it takes 47,500 points for a studio, 68,500 points for a 1 br, 148,000 points for a 2 br and 221,000 points for a 3 br. I think the points per maintenance fee cost is more important than the initial selling price.
Bernie



For reference info, here is what II published about CIG

Under Club Interval, once the Home Resort accommodations are deposited, all rights to the use of same for the week(s) deposited are immediately assigned to II. Once a deposit is made, the deposited week(s) may not be withdrawn. The number of Club Interval Points that will be allotted to a Club Interval Gold Member based on their deposit of a unit week, and election to convert it to Club Interval Points shall be determined based on the Club Interval Weekly Points Values chart, which is established by II from time to time, at its sole discretion, upon publication on II’s website, intervalworld.com.

From 2023 II Buyers Guide
The current Club Interval Weekly Points Values chart is as follows:
Club Interval Weekly Points Values*

TDI Range​	4-Bedroom​	3-Bedroom​	2-Bedroom​	1-Bedroom​	Studio​	Hotel Room​
135 – 150	123,750 –181,500	101,250 – 148,500	78,750 – 115,500	67,500 – 99,000	45,000 – 66,000	40,500 –59,375
115 – 130	103,125 –151,250	84,375 – 123,750	65,625 – 96,250	56,250 – 82,500	37,500 – 55,000	33,750 –49,500
90 – 110	82,500 –121,000	67,500 –99,000	52,500 – 77,000	45,000 – 66,000	30,000 – 44,000	27,000 –39,625
65 – 85	61,875 –90,750	50,625 – 74,250	39,375 – 57,750	33,750 – 49,500	22,500 – 33,000	20,250 –29,750
50 – 60	41,250 –60,500	33,750 – 49,500	26,250 – 38,500	22,500 – 33,000	15,000 – 22,000	13,500 –19,750

So does Capital Vacations (or II) have the right to terminate the II run internal points program and the formerly favorable II exchange rate?
We have seen that happen with Hyatt (devaluation of II exchange rate).

To the OP, what exactly does your original purchase contract say you bought? Yes you have said it is deeded ownership (fixed or floating?) that was assigned 'points' (Grand Crowne points).
But what does the contract say about the points? I expect there is contract language that allows modification of the points program ...

 

[jules54]

Grand Crowne sold their own points product (based on a floating deed or a converted fixed week deed) that had a specific (quite favorable to the Grande Crowne owner) exchange chart with II. It seems Grand Crowne also had II running the reservation/exchange system for them.

In reference to this point system, 'Grand Crowne' is not just one resort, there's also mention of 'Carriage Place' ... so think 'mini-system'.

This is not II CIG (Club Interval Gold) even though the point ranges are similar. I included some CIG info below for comparison.


Here is a related TUG thread from July 2008, I highlighted a couple of points relative to this discussion.

https://tugbbs.com/forums/threads/surrey-grand-crowne-resort-questions.76302/


I have a chance to pick up 100,000 points annually for $100.00 this includes closing costs. I understand that this is considered a 5 Star with II and the sale also includes II annual membership. MF's are $566.00 per year.
I know nothing about how points work as my other timeshares are floating weeks. Is this a good deal and how do points work with II? I would only buy this as trade stock, I would probably never go there. I need advice please. I have 24 hours to decide.
Suzanne

This deal sounds funny to me. I own at Grand crowne and I am looking at my point book and it does not have a 100,000 point week. The smallest A unit is 68500 for a red week and 47500 for yellow weeks 1-9. Next is C unit which is 78500 & 55000. Last is B unit the largest which is 97000 & 68500. Of course you can combine A-B or B-C or A-B-C but that would all cost over 100,000 points. Also maint. fees are charged per bedroom owned, 1 bed = $ 402.00, 2 bed = 604.00 and 3 bedrooms are 806.00 so you maint fee seems off.
Check it out and find out more detail and I will be glad to help. Right now it just does not seem right.
Steve

Suzanne,
According to my points book, it sounds like it is a mid-season (week 1-9) two bedroom B unit in building G, H or I at the Carriage Place. The maintenance fees are a little lower there than at the Grand Crowne Country Club. The sales price is right but I have seen better buys out there when you compare maintenance fees to the number of points you are getting. The maintenance fees of the 2 bedroom unit is the same whether it is a prime season week or a mid-season week but the number of points for a prime season week in that unit is 150,000 points compared to 100,000 for the mid season week. Recently a 3 br penthouse unit sold on E-Bay for $1136 + $549 for closing costs and transfer fee. The number of points was 375,00 points (It must be one of the new Royal Suites which we were shown at the owner update) and the MF is $812. The initial cost is higher but for only $246 more in maintenance fees you would get 375,000 points instead of 100,000 points. If you exchange through II in prime season it takes 47,500 points for a studio, 68,500 points for a 1 br, 148,000 points for a 2 br and 221,000 points for a 3 br. I think the points per maintenance fee cost is more important than the initial selling price.
Bernie



For reference info, here is what II published about CIG

Under Club Interval, once the Home Resort accommodations are deposited, all rights to the use of same for the week(s) deposited are immediately assigned to II. Once a deposit is made, the deposited week(s) may not be withdrawn. The number of Club Interval Points that will be allotted to a Club Interval Gold Member based on their deposit of a unit week, and election to convert it to Club Interval Points shall be determined based on the Club Interval Weekly Points Values chart, which is established by II from time to time, at its sole discretion, upon publication on II’s website, intervalworld.com.

From 2023 II Buyers Guide
The current Club Interval Weekly Points Values chart is as follows:
Club Interval Weekly Points Values*

TDI Range​	4-Bedroom​	3-Bedroom​	2-Bedroom​	1-Bedroom​	Studio​	Hotel Room​
135 – 150	123,750 –181,500	101,250 – 148,500	78,750 – 115,500	67,500 – 99,000	45,000 – 66,000	40,500 –59,375
115 – 130	103,125 –151,250	84,375 – 123,750	65,625 – 96,250	56,250 – 82,500	37,500 – 55,000	33,750 –49,500
90 – 110	82,500 –121,000	67,500 –99,000	52,500 – 77,000	45,000 – 66,000	30,000 – 44,000	27,000 –39,625
65 – 85	61,875 –90,750	50,625 – 74,250	39,375 – 57,750	33,750 – 49,500	22,500 – 33,000	20,250 –29,750
50 – 60	41,250 –60,500	33,750 – 49,500	26,250 – 38,500	22,500 – 33,000	15,000 – 22,000	13,500 –19,750

So does Capital Vacations (or II) have the right to terminate the II run internal points program and the formerly favorable II exchange rate?
We have seen that happen with Hyatt (devaluation of II exchange rate).

To the OP, what exactly does your original purchase contract say you bought? Yes you have said it is deeded ownership (fixed or floating?) that was assigned 'points' (Grand Crowne points).
But what does the contract say about the points? I expect there is contract language that allows modification of the points program ...

I don’t know what the original contract says as someone gave these to me. All I can see are the deed, which say nothing about points. I stated my original post wrong. Grand Crowne has not dropped II as an exchange company. It dropped them as their reservation system. There are definitely 100,000 pt contracts cause on of mine is just that amount.

 

[gravityrules]

I don’t know what the original contract says as someone gave these to me. All I can see are the deed, which say nothing about points. I stated my original post wrong. Grand Crowne has not dropped II as an exchange company. It dropped them as their reservation system. There are definitely 100,000 pt contracts cause on of mine is just that amount.

Are you currently exchanging points or weeks in II? I assume your 100K points is based on a deeded week. Is II still doing exchanges based on the points exchange rates mentioned in the 2008 TUG thread? Or is II giving you a week exchange based on the underlying deeded week?

 

[jules54]

I own 2 other contracts in that system. I did post everything was ok. I’ve done 2 exchanges so far this year and they worked exactly as they have previously.
The point cost in trading powers varies no rhyme of reason. You would think it would depend on resort quality but that is not the case.
I’ve resolved this issue for now. This post can be closed.

 

[dioxide45]

I own 2 other contracts in that system. I did post everything was ok. I’ve done 2 exchanges so far this year and they worked exactly as they have previously.
The point cost in trading powers varies no rhyme of reason. You would think it would depend on resort quality but that is not the case.
I’ve resolved this issue for now. This post can be closed.

When you deposit or exchange though, are you exchanging a set number of points or an actual weeks based reservation?

 

[gravityrules]

So II is still honoring the Grand Crowne points exchange rates from that 2008 TUG post? But Capital Vacations has taken over the reservation system interface and owners have to pay for the II membership?

Is that an appropriate summary?

 

[jules54]

Exchanging with points. When you make an exchange in points Interval checks with GC or CP to see if you have the points available. If you have paid your maintenance fee you’ll have the points available. Once again I don’t know about points chart. The highest rated resorts take 100,000 for a one bedroom prime season. Other seasons cost a lesser amount of points. 59 days prior to check in all resorts are discounted 50%. Example that 100,000 pt prime week 59 days prior to check in is 50,000 pts.

 

[gravityrules]

I'm no CV apologist, but some thoughts and comments ...

As an aggregator of stressed and/or otherwise failing independent resorts, you would think CV would know how to make transitions to 'their system'. But to be fair if they are trying to maintain the rules and regulations of a multitude of systems as well as sell their own umbrella CV points product ... plenty of opportunities for confusion.

I don't own Grand Crowne but do own in a CV controlled 'mini system' with it's own unique rules. It has taken them well over a year to get to the point where the customer reps seem to know what they are doing (actually referring to system specific training material).

 

[wmgjr]

Hi everyone especially Grand Crowne and Capital Vacation owners.
Got some emails yesterday telling us that Interval International will no longer be our exchange company our Grand Crowne Resort as of 12/31/2025. Our membership was paid by Grand Crowne in the past and it was a points based trading program with a 50% discount 59 days before check in. Interval handled all reservations for GC even at the home resort. Starting in 2026 Capital will have its own customer service and reservation line. Capital has made a deal with Trading Places for the exchange company. I have never been impressed with Trading Places selection of resorts. The Interval membership will stop 12/31/25 and the Capital customer service line won’t be up and running till Jan.9.
Someone gave us these Grand Crowne contracts and our only reason for taking them was the points account with Interval. We have not paid our 2026 maintenance fees as of yet. In 2025 Capital didn’t give me 62,000 points I paid for and have been trying to get resolved since March. We own 2 bi yearly contracts and 1 yearly contract which that is the points that did not get deposited. I’ve made phone calls and sent emails multiple times no one ever answers the emails and each phone call someone passes the buck and gives me another person and phone number to call. They all can see the account and the contracts and agree 1 is a yearly contract that I paid 2025 fees on.

My question is what will happen to the Interval account that I have confirmed exchanges in for 2026 and is upgraded to a Platinum level? Interval told me last week that my membership was current till August 2026 then I will have to pay for my Platinum upgrade. No mention of my regular membership only to tell me Grand Crowne will no longer be paying it.

I know I’ll have to call and send emails to employees that either will not know what is going on or give me bluntly wrong information like it’s the Gods honest truth.

WARNING NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH CAPITAL NEVER.

Try sfx or thirdhome