Can you turn an eplus into a regular week so that you can put in a request?

[Ecaldon]

I have an eplus with one trade left. I’m trying to get into Hilton Head 8/2 so hard to find (at Surfwatch the previous week thanks to a filled request). I still have 1 eplus trade left, I don’t currently see an option to cancel. I’d there anyway I can pay II some money & turn this week back into a regular week so that I can put in a request? I read the old threads and they say you can cancel but I don’t see that as an option at this point.

 

[DeniseM]

[I stand corrected] - You can also go to the TUG Sightings & Request Forum and post a Sightings Request.

 

[dioxide45]

You can cancel the exchange and take a cancellation replacement deposit. You can then put an OGS against that. You will have to pay another exchange fee and Eplus again. Also the cancellation replacement deposit is only good for one year from the date you cancel. You need to call to cancel. If you are inside 60 days from checkin, the cancellation replacement deposit will also be Flexchange restricted.

 

[Ecaldon]

Thank you! I think I can get a date more than 60 days out!

 

[marmite]

You can cancel the exchange and take a cancellation replacement deposit. You can then put an OGS against that. You will have to pay another exchange fee and Eplus again. Also the cancellation replacement deposit is only good for one year from the date you cancel. You need to call to cancel. If you are inside 60 days from checkin, the cancellation replacement deposit will also be Flexchange restricted.

Do you happen to know if a cancellation replacement deposit gives you preference (if your original week was Marriott or Vistana) or do you lose that benefit?

 

[dioxide45]

Do you happen to know if a cancellation replacement deposit gives you preference (if your original week was Marriott or Vistana) or do you lose that benefit?

I am not 100% sure. I think it retains preference but may lose any in system exchange fee discounts (like Marriott to Marriott). @tschwa2 might be able to weigh in also.

 

[Ecaldon]

You guys are AWESOME. I was able to trade out for my final trade more than 60 days into a 1 br unit in Kauai in August for my final Eplus trade, then called & cancelled and put in an OGS for HHI for the dates I need. This is kind of a miracle because without that OGS there was little chance of getting HHI. Thank you so much. And I didn’t have to pay at all since it’s Marriott to Marriott. That eplus was the best $ I ever spent with II as the week was our Spring Break trip that we had to cancel 10 days out and I had despaired of using it at all. Thank you!!!

 

[dioxide45]

You guys are AWESOME. I was able to trade out for my final trade more than 60 days into a 1 br unit in Kauai in August for my final Eplus trade, then called & cancelled and put in a, then canceled it and put in an OGS for HHI for the dates I need. This is kind of a miracle because without that OGS there was little chance of getting HHI. Thank you so much. And I didn’t have to pay at all since it’s Marriott to Marriott. That eplus was the best $ I ever spent with II as the week was our Spring Break trip that we had to cancel 10 days out and I had despaired of using it at all. Thank you!!!

Good to know that the $0 exchange fee carries over to the cancellation replacement deposit. Others have reported that the discounted (for non enrolled Marriott weeks) doesn't carry over.

 

[jackio]

You can cancel the exchange and take a cancellation replacement deposit. You can then put an OGS against that. You will have to pay another exchange fee and Eplus again. Also the cancellation replacement deposit is only good for one year from the date you cancel. You need to call to cancel. If you are inside 60 days from checkin, the cancellation replacement deposit will also be Flexchange restricted.

If your OGS hits and you add eplus, do you get an extra year on the cancellation replacement date?

 

[Ecaldon]

If your OGS hits and you add eplus, do you get an extra year on the cancellation replacement date?

I’ll report back when (fingers crossed) it hits and I buy the eplus (which I will never not buy again). The weirdest thing about the eplus was that I’ve tried to get into DVC Orlando properties and MVC Kauai and never had luck until I was just trying to book to push out dates, and then there were great options, so I’ve learned about just searching dates instead of properties which is the opposite of what I normally do. But I am extremely thankful. I needed 2 weeks in HHI for a specific event, yesterday I had none and today my OGS hit Surfwatch for the first week (studio deposit), and now I have an OGS for the second week which should be better trading power because it’s the one bedroom deposit. This is a full time job but when it works, it’s amazing!

 

[dioxide45]

If your OGS hits and you add eplus, do you get an extra year on the cancellation replacement date?

Yes, it would put an Eplus expiration date of one year past your current checkin date.

 

[jackio]

This is a full time job but when it works, it’s amazing!

Agreed!

 

[tschwa2]

I’ll report back when (fingers crossed) it hits and I buy the eplus (which I will never not buy again). The weirdest thing about the eplus was that I’ve tried to get into DVC Orlando properties and MVC Kauai and never had luck until I was just trying to book to push out dates, and then there were great options, so I’ve learned about just searching dates instead of properties which is the opposite of what I normally do. But I am extremely thankful. I needed 2 weeks in HHI for a specific event, yesterday I had none and today my OGS hit Surfwatch for the first week (studio deposit), and now I have an OGS for the second week which should be better trading power because it’s the one bedroom deposit. This is a full time job but when it works, it’s amazing!

Keep in mind that eplus has changed and if you have another situation like your last emergency it would not have helped. With eplus that you purchase now, the exchage needs to happen 14 days before check in. If another emergency pops up within 14 days, the eplus retrade option is gone.

 

[TheHappyWanderer]

Keep in mind that eplus has changed and if you have another situation like your last emergency it would not have helped. With eplus that you purchase now, the exchage needs to happen 14 days before check in. If another emergency pops up within 14 days, the eplus retrade option is gone.

Under the new E-Plus rules, if you get to be within 14 days of your travel date, do you have any options in case of an emergency where you can't travel? Can you pay for a full-price retrade at that point? And if so, what are the restrictions as far as how far out that full price retrade can be, and can you add E-Plus to that full price retrade (if there is a full price retrade option).

I don't own Marriott, if that matters, and I need to pay for all exchanges. Thanks

 

[dioxide45]

Under the new E-Plus rules, if you get to be within 14 days of your travel date, do you have any options in case of an emergency where you can't travel? Can you pay for a full-price retrade at that point? And if so, what are the restrictions as far as how far out that full price retrade can be, and can you add E-Plus to that full price retrade (if there is a full price retrade option).

I don't own Marriott, if that matters, and I need to pay for all exchanges. Thanks

These are all good questions. I know with Marriot to Marriott you can add Eplus when you do a $0 retrade. The Eplus option shows up each time. It would be good to see how this works in practice with the new rules in place for Eplus after 2/1/24.

 

[tschwa2]

When you are within the 14 days, eplus goes away but regular retrades are still available with regular retrade rules and fees.

 

[TheHappyWanderer]

When you are within the 14 days, eplus goes away but regular retrades are still available with regular retrade rules and fees.

Wow thanks that was fast. And sorry, I guess I am having a hard time conceptualizing it because I have always done retrades under the E-Plus framework, but does "regular retrade rules" mean you are limited to exchanging just out to your original E-Plus expiration date?

Or if you pay full price for a retrade, is it like a new exchange where you can you go out another 24 months? If so, would you have the ability to add E-Plus to it? (That doesn't sound like the case but just making sure I understand it)

And either way, do you (supposedly) maintain the value of your initial deposit? Thanks.

 

[abdibile]

I’ll report back when (fingers crossed) it hits and I buy the eplus (which I will never not buy again). The weirdest thing about the eplus was that I’ve tried to get into DVC Orlando properties and MVC Kauai and never had luck until I was just trying to book to push out dates, and then there were great options, so I’ve learned about just searching dates instead of properties which is the opposite of what I normally do. But I am extremely thankful. I needed 2 weeks in HHI for a specific event, yesterday I had none and today my OGS hit Surfwatch for the first week (studio deposit), and now I have an OGS for the second week which should be better trading power because it’s the one bedroom deposit. This is a full time job but when it works, it’s amazing!

You trade Marriott to Marriott with enrolled weeks, so no exchange fee, correct?

Then why purchase Eplus when the OGS hits?

If your plans change you can just do a (full fee of $0) retrade as often as you like. You just have to take the restrictions into account if you retrade close to checkin (I think 14 and 30 days out the retrades are restricted to short term exchanges).

If you need to „escape“ from such a restricted retrace ability you can buy eplus on a later retrade and save the money for eplus in case you don’t need to retrade at all.

This is obviously different when you have to pay full exchange fee for the retrades

 

[abdibile]

Wow thanks that was fast. And sorry, I guess I am having a hard time conceptualizing it because I have always done retrades under the E-Plus framework, but does "regular retrade rules" mean you are limited to exchanging just out to your original E-Plus expiration date?

Or if you pay full price for a retrade, is it like a new exchange where you can you go out another 24 months? If so, would you have the ability to add E-Plus to it? (That doesn't sound like the case but just making sure I understand it)

And either way, do you (supposedly) maintain the value of your initial deposit? Thanks.

Regular retrades can be done out to the expiration date of the original deposit and you usually pay a full exchange fee for the retrade (which is $0 for enrolled Marriott weeks)

It does not give you more time before the deposit expires.

Trading power of the deposit should not be impacted by the retrade.

You only have to be careful if retreading close to checkin, then you can only retrace to new weeks 30 or 60 days out (not sure about the exact rules).

 

[TheHappyWanderer]

Thanks, I am often past the expiration date of the original deposit because E-Plus gives you another 12 months past your first exchange date.

So if I am past the original deposit's expiration date and get to within 14 days of the travel date under the new E-Plus rules, does that mean my full price retrade would only be available out to the date the E-Plus had been set to expire under that 12 month extension?

 

[dioxide45]

Wow thanks that was fast. And sorry, I guess I am having a hard time conceptualizing it because I have always done retrades under the E-Plus framework, but does "regular retrade rules" mean you are limited to exchanging just out to your original E-Plus expiration date?

Or if you pay full price for a retrade, is it like a new exchange where you can you go out another 24 months? If so, would you have the ability to add E-Plus to it? (That doesn't sound like the case but just making sure I understand it)

And either way, do you (supposedly) maintain the value of your initial deposit? Thanks.

While you can retrade through the original expiration date of the deposit, realize that a late retrade inside 14 days, or even inside 59, you are limited to Flexchange restrictions. So if within 14 days of checkin you can only retrade through 30 days from the current date and if between 59 and 14 then you can only retrade for 59 days beyond the current date (not checkin date like Eplus works).

 

[TheHappyWanderer]

OK, I see. Even if you were to pay the full price for a retrade, if you are within 14 days of the travel date you still have significant limitations. I didn't realize that for some reason. Thanks for the info.

 

[dioxide45]

OK, I see. Even if you were to pay the full price for a retrade, if you are within 14 days of the travel date you still have significant limitations. I didn't realize that for some reason. Thanks for the info.

Yes, but if you add Eplus to that subsequent retrade that is inside 14 days then you can do retrades up to 59 days from the checkin date of whatever excvhnage you confirm.

Also for regular $0 enrolled Marriott retrades, it is easy and free to get out of the 30 day restriction. Just retrade for something that is 14-30 days from the current date, then you are no longer inside the 14 days and can retrade for something up to 59 days from the current date.

 

[abdibile]

Also for regular $0 enrolled Marriott retrades, it is easy and free to get out of the 30 day restriction. Just retrade for something that is 14-30 days from the current date, then you are no longer inside the 14 days and can retrade for something up to 59 days from the current date.

And then add eplus if you want to be able to trade 59 days from the reservations checkin day to be out of flexchange if you then cancel to get a replacement week that is not flexchange restricted

 

[dioxide45]

And then add eplus if you want to be able to trade 59 days from the reservations checkin day to be out of flexchange if you then cancel to get a replacement week that is not flexchange restricted

As long as the check in date of your current exchange is more than 59 days from the current date when you cancel, the cancellation replacement deposit should not be Flexchange restricted.