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Is there a class action lawsuit against HGVC for renting timeshare units out for nightly rental via 3 party (not exchanges likebRCI, bit like expedia)? It would explain why there's never any availability.
 

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Yes they can. However, they are technically renting inventory that they own, so it doesn't explain no availability. IMO, no availability comes from lack of planning by the owner. HGVC is a pretty good system for availability and if you are planning 9 months in advance then you should be able to get just about any resort. Certain times of the year and certain resorts are harder to get.

If you want Ocean Oak in the summer, it is tough. Except for the odd cancellation, forget about any reservations after the 9 month mark. Locations where HGVC has a lot of resorts, like NYC, Hawaii, Las Vegas and Orlando are pretty easy to get reservations.
 

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Is there a class action lawsuit against HGVC for renting timeshare units out for nightly rental via 3 party (not exchanges likebRCI, bit like ‘’’
As @dioxide45 explained above, HGV is allowed to rent inventory that either they own or membets have converted to hilton honors.

It would explain why there's never any availability.
Your statement isn’t true because many of us are booking all of the time. I suggest that you either book your HW or book at start of club season. You will need to explain to us what and when you are trying to book. Also, what club are you in, HGVC or HVC?
 
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Yea, I haven't had much availability problems when I'm booking at 9 months.
 

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Is there a class action lawsuit against HGVC for renting timeshare units out for nightly rental via 3 party (not exchanges likebRCI, bit like expedia)? It would explain why there's never any availability.
Can you let us know more about where you have tried looking, what seasons, and how far out from your desired dates? This is a very broad statement and hard to assess without more information.

Cheers.
 

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Is there a class action lawsuit against HGVC for renting timeshare units...
Not to my knowledge, but there are plenty of people posing as lawyers (and for all I know actual lawyers) cold calling timeshare owners and talking about a class action lawsuit in hopes of extracting upfront lawsuit money.

It would explain why there's never any availability.
*Always* is a strong word...but there is basically always availability at 276 days in HGVC's major destinations - O'ahu, the Big Island, Carlsbad (CA), Las Vegas, Myrtle Beach, and Orlando.
 
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@mary.barrios As @ljmiii stated, saying that there is a pending lawsuit about your timeshare company renting the timeshares cheaper than you pay in maintenance fee also causing limited availability is a very common tactic by scammer exit companies. Did you receive a cold call?
 

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Is there a class action lawsuit against HGVC for renting timeshare units out for nightly rental via 3 party (not exchanges likebRCI, bit like expedia)? It would explain why there's never any availability.
I know you are new to TUG but why would you ask if there is some type of legal action against HGVC for nightly rentals? You then mention there is never any availability so others have asked you where you are trying to book and are you HGVC or HVC. All of those questions need to be answered before anyone can give you any help with your statement "It would explain why there's never any availability."
 

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Is there a class action lawsuit against HGVC for renting timeshare units out for nightly rental via 3 party (not exchanges likebRCI, bit like expedia)? It would explain why there's never any availabilit
Hi and Welcome to TUG :)

The following is from HGVC's Disclosure document

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With timeshares, you're competing with other owners for available space. So it's best to book as soon as the booking window opens especially during popular times (whenever the kids are out of school, major holidays, peak summer weeks for beach vacation, peak winter weeks for ski vacations, etc).
The following is also from HGVC's Disclosure document

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if someone is upset by owners finding TUG and asking advice, they should find another forum to participate on.

there are no stupid questions.
 

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Most of the timeshares that HGVC owns are available for nightly rental on the Hilton.com website.
 

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As @dioxide45 explained above, HGV is allowed to rent inventory that either they own or membets have converted to hilton honors.
That is what I always thought but reading @alwysonvac first attachment that may not be entirely true. Unless I am reading too much into this, it certainly appears that HGVC can tap into all member inventory that is within 30 days to use for any purposes they want. I can understand using it for Open Season but they aren't limited to that.

"Beginning the first day of the Open Season reservation window, Hilton Grand Vacations reserves the right to utilize accommodations for its own purposes including for exchange, inspection visits, promotions, rentals, special programs, or any other purposes in Hilton Grand Vacations’ sole discretion."
 

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That is what I always thought but reading @alwysonvac first attachment that may not be entirely true. Unless I am reading too much into this, it certainly appears that HGVC can tap into all member inventory that is within 30 days to use for any purposes they want. I can understand using it for Open Season but they aren't limited to that.

"Beginning the first day of the Open Season reservation window, Hilton Grand Vacations reserves the right to utilize accommodations for its own purposes including for exchange, inspection visits, promotions, rentals, special programs, or any other purposes in Hilton Grand Vacations’ sole discretion."
This seems to be somewhat standard between brands. Marriott resorts have similar provisions where Marriott Vacation Club can take inventory at different times depending on the resort. Some it is 75 days, others 60 days. It effectively becomes owned inventory by the developer. So my statement is still somewhat true.
 

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That is what I always thought but reading @alwysonvac first attachment that may not be entirely true. Unless I am reading too much into this, it certainly appears that HGVC can tap into all member inventory that is within 30 days to use for any purposes they want. I can understand using it for Open Season but they aren't limited to that.

"Beginning the first day of the Open Season reservation window, Hilton Grand Vacations reserves the right to utilize accommodations for its own purposes including for exchange, inspection visits, promotions, rentals, special programs, or any other purposes in Hilton Grand Vacations’ sole discretion."

This seems to imply that people trying to use OS, or even use points for a last minute booking, have a reduced inventory due to possible rentals. It does seem to devalue what we purchased to have, potentially, one month less to book things in competition with other owners. Since it is in the docs we agreed to, it would seem to be legal. But it still seems shady.

Cheers.
 
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That is what I always thought but reading @alwysonvac first attachment that may not be entirely true. Unless I am reading too much into this, it certainly appears that HGVC can tap into all member inventory that is within 30 days to use for any purposes they want. I can understand using it for Open Season but they aren't limited to that.
Correct, that is true also. But I believe that can go both ways meaning that HGV inventory can be listed in both places.
 

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This seems to imply that people trying to use OS, or even use points for a last minute booking, have a reduced inventory due to possible rentals. It does seem to devalue what we purchased to have, potentially, one month less to book things in competition with other owners. Since it is in the docs we agreed to, it would seem to be legal. But it still seems shady.

Cheers.
On the one hand that makes sense, and I can agree with you. Alternatively its better for the resorts to operate closer to fully occupied. That should help to reduce overall costs per guest, allow the food and drink outlets to sell more, and potentially offer more services at the resort.

There are times i go to resorts and they feel packed, and other times they feel half occupied at best...
 
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I do hope that the OP will return to get some ideas from what we've written and/or provide some more details so that, perhaps, we can help with future bookings. My gut tells me, though, that this may be a drive by.

Cheers.
 

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Last week I received a phone call from "PCE" about a class action lawsuit against HGVC. A meeting was being held at the Embassy Suites near USF (Tampa). The representative advised the suit is regarding inventory being available to non-owners at a lower price range and affects owners trying to book. Does this suit have any traction?
 

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Last week I received a phone call from "PCE" about a class action lawsuit against HGVC. A meeting was being held at the Embassy Suites near USF (Tampa). The representative advised the suit is regarding inventory being available to non-owners at a lower price range and affects owners trying to book. Does this suit have any traction?
This is a ripoff timeshare exit outfit citing stuff that is immaterial. They are simply going to try to convince people to hand over thousands of dollars to "help" them exit their timeshare.
 

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I have received similar cold calls in the past.
Yeah, I don't even pick up the phone anymore unless the number is in my contacts. If it is a real call they can leave a message. 95% of the phone calls are from scammers.
 

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I have changed my iPhone settings that my phone will only ring if the caller is in my contacts. I am getting about 3 scam calls a day. Very seldom do the scammers ever leave a message.
 

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I have changed my iPhone settings that my phone will only ring if the caller is in my contacts. I am getting about 3 scam calls a day. Very seldom do the scammers ever leave a message.
I do the same. Any calls not in my contacts go directly to voicemail. I find I get a lot of 3 or 4 second voicemails. There is nothing on the voicemails. This just started happening within the past few months.
 

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Yeah, I don't even pick up the phone anymore unless the number is in my contacts. If it is a real call they can leave a message. 95% of the phone calls are from scammers.
I do pick up if I'm in a mood to mess with them. It can be fun.

Cheers.
 
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