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Our DD is just south of SAV. After several days without power we want to get them a generator. She talked with a neighbor who said he likes his Champion Dual Fuel and suggested they get at least 8500 watt.

Home Depot is out of this one in the entire Savannah area: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Champio...ble-Generator-with-CO-Shield-201083/318794352

I found this one at Tractor Supply. The model number is off by 1 digit. Wattage is slightly different. It's all Greek to me. https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/p...6_PSvYEL7BBP4mBsvUBcjaRoEh1URxLhoCN40QAvD_BwE

I'd really appreciate if someone could make things a bit clearer. Thanks.
 
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Dual fuel is nice, but both rely on the ability to get fuel. If the roads are closed you have an unfueled generator. As long as you have a reliable source of fuel its good.
Next to know is what the need to run. Well or public water. A well needs 220 and a lot pump start power. Public water makes it less problematic. Sump pump?
What kind of heat? Electric heat pulls alot of power. Same with an electric stove, electric water heater, If they have gas heat, gas hot water and public water then all you are needing to run is a refrigerator and lights. In that case you can get away with less than 8500 watt. For cooking i would use a gas grill and perhaps buy a portable gas campstove to run off a propane bottle.
Will also need extension cords to plug in the fridge and some lamps.
 

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We have a Generac 24KW whole home generator. Auto on (with Transfer Switch) whenever power lost. Its air cooled, so light additions of oil are necessary every three days of continuous use.I think liquid cooled are better, but there are limitations on how close these can be placed next to a wall.
 

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If I had to prepare for the next power outage, I would look for a diesel generator. While more expensive, the engine is usually more durable and the fuel is safer to store and more stable.
 

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We have a Duel Fuel Generator (Propane or Gas). We keep several 100lb Tanks of Propane on hand. We had the House wired for a Plug-in and to cut off the House from the Power Company.
 

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We have a Duel Fuel Generator (Propane or Gas). We keep several 100lb Tanks of Propane on hand. We had the House wired for a Plug-in and to cut off the House from the Power Company.
How long can you run off a 100 pound tank? Do you have to cart them off to get them refilled, or can you call for delivery?
 

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also note the difference in output between gas/diesel/propane/lng fuels! it can make a difference.

need to figure out what they want to run in their home off a generator. if they just want to run lights/fans/tv/fridge some of the smaller ones will work just fine! but powering a water heater, dryer, or air conditioning will require a good bit larger setup!

the harbor freight predator generators are VERY popular as well, especially if you are struggling to find something in stock. i love the tiny little 2000watt inverter style ones because they are whisper quiet and will run lights and a fridge easily plus its the size of a mailbox and you can take it/put it just about anywhere.

also the larger the generator you get, the more fuel itll take to run it! and it really is a pain to keep filling up gas from 5 gallon cans 3 to 4x a day!
 

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We have a Generac 24KW whole home generator. Auto on (with Transfer Switch) whenever power lost. Its air cooled, so light additions of oil are necessary every three days of continuous use.I think liquid cooled are better, but there are limitations on how close these can be placed next to a wall.
We have the same Generac for our home in Holly Springs, NC and it operates on natural gas - no tanks, etc. It's nice to hear it go on for its weekly test every Friday at noon for 10 minutes. In the event of a power outage it automatically switches over very quickly without a noticeable interruption. We have a larger home so they installed an extra electric panel for those circuits to be supported by the generator. The stuff on the other panel is easier to do without for a short time.

There are other options now for interim power such as Tesla power walls, etc. which might be explored.
 

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OP is looking for an emergency generator to get to her daughter currently without power. Many of these comments are totally non-responsive.

To OP: it will be difficult to get a generator anywhere near the outages. Easiest is a gasoline generator, but they do need to have acces to fuel. They will also need high amperage extension cords. Costco has quality for both. Anything 5000W and above will run multiple refrigerators, lights, fans, etc.

 

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OP is looking for an emergency generator to get to her daughter currently without power. Many of these comments are totally non-responsive.

To OP: it will be difficult to get a generator anywhere near the outages. Easiest is a gasoline generator, but they do need to have acces to fuel. They will also need high amperage extension cords. Costco has quality for both. Anything 5000W and above will run multiple refrigerators, lights, fans, etc.

Hahahaha you are totally correct….
 

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also the larger the generator you get, the more fuel itll take to run it! and it really is a pain to keep filling up gas from 5 gallon cans 3 to 4x a day!
The user needs to answer the question of how big a PITA is it to be without necessary power. AND for how long a time period they are willing to put up with the hassle of living under generator power. Y'know, fueling, servicing, running extension cords, etc.

Also, to decide what you want to power. It might be as little as a fridge, a CPAP, and a couple of LED lights and a fan or two. Maybe 3000 watts or so. Add creature comforts and the power usage goes up from there.
 

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also note the difference in output between gas/diesel/propane/lng fuels! it can make a difference.

need to figure out what they want to run in their home off a generator. if they just want to run lights/fans/tv/fridge some of the smaller ones will work just fine! but powering a water heater, dryer, or air conditioning will require a good bit larger setup!

the harbor freight predator generators are VERY popular as well, especially if you are struggling to find something in stock. i love the tiny little 2000watt inverter style ones because they are whisper quiet and will run lights and a fridge easily plus its the size of a mailbox and you can take it/put it just about anywhere.

also the larger the generator you get, the more fuel itll take to run it! and it really is a pain to keep filling up gas from 5 gallon cans 3 to 4x a day!
I checked the Harbor Freight near their home. They have nothing within 100 miles.

Last night, to be sure we had something, I purchased this one from Tractor Supply that's very close to them: https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/p...6_PSvYEL7BBP4mBsvUBcjaRoEh1URxLhoCN40QAvD_BwE

It's very similar to the Home Depot one in my original post (that's out of stock).
 

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That is big enough to run everything in most houses (minus microwave, electric stove and other power hungry equipment of course. ).

Might even run a central AC unit if you have a soft start attached.

I had to go with a tri-fuel as natural gas seems to be the most easily accessible fuel source during weather events. I put a soft starter on my 5 Ton Central AC unit and can run everything (minus microwave) with a starting 12 KW natural gas generator.
 
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Don't forget that those Champion models like all open cases power generators are very loud (74 db), heavy (>200 lbs) and take a lot of space to store them when not used.

Like some others said, if they don't need to power many power hungry things at the same time, a little fuel portable power inverter generator with a close case can do the job.

Portable power inverter generators are more expensive per Watt normally but quieter, lighter and smaller.

They can also use LFP battery portable power stations with solar panels but those are the most expensive power backup solutions but the quietest. Solar panels may not be enough to recharge the batteries and a little fuel portable power inverter generator can be used to recharge them.

I have a little 3000W (3500W peak) portable power inverter (gas only). It's quiet (58 db), light (47 lbs) and small.
 

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We used to have a whole house Generac fueled by propane in our former 2600 sq ft home. Everything was on it except the central AC and the washer and dryer. Living in the woods we constantly lost power sometimes for over a week. Was a life saver. Propane tanks were solely dedicated to the generator.

In our little 1100 sq ft cottage now we have a small Kohler whole house generator that operates off the same propane tanks as our heating system. But so far we’ve been here almost 5 years and only lost power once for an hour and another time for 15 minutes.

Everything is on it except the range, washer/dryer and central AC. Our son told us we shouldn’t have wasted the money installing one, but we know if we didn’t we would constantly lose power! Lol!
 

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For a long term solution, I think you should definitely consider Solar generators. They are more portable and no noise options. They can be expensive depending how much battery storage you want to have. The good thing is that they are modular so you can add more battery power later.

During extreme emergencies you will definitely lessen and monitor your consumption so you can make your power last.

After moving to our condo on Molokai, the solar generators were really the only practical choice but after using it a few years, I really would have chose the same option if I still lived in Wisconsin. They are expensive compared to gas or diesel but they definitely have some positives also.

With my usage I went with a 2200 watt inverter with 2400 watt surge and 8.2 KW of battery storage. My electric usage is very minimal compared to most. With no power conservation, this amount a power would last a few days all by itself. While conserving power, it would last over a week.

I also have three 200 watt solar panels so I old really go an unlimited amount of time as long as I have sun and I don't have an issue with that here.

We lose power often here in Molokai, usually four to six times a year and we average outages from 2 to 12 hours. I was going to hook mine up to my breaker box but decided against it. I ended out setting up two extension cords along the wall along the refrigerator. Those two cords power most everything in the condo, the refrigerator, lights, router and the TV. I have one more extension cord I use for longer outages that I use to power the microwave or airfryer.

Our power usage is low because our hot water heater is gas and is association owned for the whole building. Washer and dryer are also owned by the association for the whole building. Our stove/oven is also gas. That leaves us with the microwave and airfryer as the largest power draws and those are used very little or not at all during emergencies. The refrigerator is next and our solar generator can run that for about a week without any recharging. TV and router are luxuries that we also wouldn't have to run. Lights are LED's and require little power plus we have portable rechargeable lights ready also.

With the extension cords already set up, I. An easily have everything hooked up and running in about three minutes. The only things I can't run because I don't have the solar generator hooked up to the breaker box is our dishwasher and a couple lights. That's why I can't justify the expense to add that hookup.

I paid just over $6,000 for my setup and that includes a hefty cost for shipping to Molokai. We use this a lot and it's made live much more comfortable for us. Because I can connect everything so fast, we even use it for shorter outages. Of course it can be hard to tell how long the outages will be. Being able to use the wifi helps for that since we can see island updates online.

All the options for power aren't cheap so check into all the features cost and how you will handle having fuel for whichever generator you choose. I usually just recharge mine from the grid when the power comes back on. I can get back to full charge of 8KW in no more than 3 hours. In a longer emergency situation it would take àbout 10 hours with just the solar panels.

My whole unit is modular but the batteries are heavy 80 pounds each and the inverter also has a battery but it's only 60 pounds. I keep the whole unit next to our refrigerator on a roller dolly.

Every time we use ours, my wife always says how glad she is to have it and how it was a fantastic purchase.

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OP is looking for an emergency generator to get to her daughter currently without power. Many of these comments are totally non-responsive.

To OP: it will be difficult to get a generator anywhere near the outages. Easiest is a gasoline generator, but they do need to have acces to fuel. They will also need high amperage extension cords. Costco has quality for both. Anything 5000W and above will run multiple refrigerators, lights, fans, etc.

I checked the Harbor Freight near their home. They have nothing within 100 miles.

Last night, to be sure we had something, I purchased this one from Tractor Supply that's very close to them: https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/p...6_PSvYEL7BBP4mBsvUBcjaRoEh1URxLhoCN40QAvD_BwE

It's very similar to the Home Depot one in my original post (that's out of stock).
Don't give up on the local Home Depot, Lowes, and other stores. Many build up and hold generator inventory throughout a region and then redistribute to hard hit areas as needed. Keep trying.
 

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that is a hefty generator for sure! going to need a few hands to get that in and out of a vehicle!
Yes, I actually think it may possibly be overkill. DD went to talk to their neighbor about the set up they had and were told 8500 and showed her how he can plug it into electrical panel right in the garage. He even had a Champion and has been satisfied with it.

When DD and family lived in NC we set them up with whole house generator. We were actually visiting them during a winter ice storm when the power went out. Their current location doesn't have gas lines to the houses and I'm not sure anyone in their neighborhood has installed a generator. Their entire house is electric. They are in a transition stage and may not be in this house more than another year. They've had at least 3 hurricanes go through in the past year and several other storms with high winds. We're watching what's developing for the next week.

In 1999 (Y2K) we had a large portable generator like this and had a special plug and panel installed to switch over to essential use during power outage. We used it just a few times. A few years ago we got the Generac for the whole house. Lately, we've had many more outages and the Generac is truly convenient.

Even though we've had a couple different kinds of generators I have little understanding of them.
 

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We have a Duel Fuel Generator (Propane or Gas). We keep several 100lb Tanks of Propane on hand. We had the House wired for a Plug-in and to cut off the House from the Power Company.
That’s just what I would do also.
 

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All of you with generators listen up. A generator has to be exercised or run once a month. Fuel can clog up lines. And fuel gets old.
We had two generators on our Maryland horse farm for many years. We learned the hard way what happens when they weren’t used. On a farm we could store gas cans outdoors. In a development only propane or whole house makes sense.
We used to plug in the fridge and freezer, a light and maybe a TV.
We don’t have one here in Florida although after this season…. On the other hand we are away most of the summer and aren’t here to run the darn thing.
 

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All of you with generators listen up. A generator has to be exercised or run once a month. Fuel can clog up lines. And fuel gets old.
We had two generators on our Maryland horse farm for many years. We learned the hard way what happens when they weren’t used. On a farm we could store gas cans outdoors. In a development only propane or whole house makes sense.
We used to plug in the fridge and freezer, a light and maybe a TV.
We don’t have one here in Florida although after this season…. On the other hand we are away most of the summer and aren’t here to run the darn thing.
The beauty of running your tri-fuel strictly on natural gas from day 1 is you don't have to deal with clogged lines and carburetors. ;)
 

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Yes, I actually think it may possibly be overkill. DD went to talk to their neighbor about the set up they had and were told 8500 and showed her how he can plug it into electrical panel right in the garage. He even had a Champion and has been satisfied with it.

When DD and family lived in NC we set them up with whole house generator. We were actually visiting them during a winter ice storm when the power went out. Their current location doesn't have gas lines to the houses and I'm not sure anyone in their neighborhood has installed a generator. Their entire house is electric. They are in a transition stage and may not be in this house more than another year. They've had at least 3 hurricanes go through in the past year and several other storms with high winds. We're watching what's developing for the next week.

In 1999 (Y2K) we had a large portable generator like this and had a special plug and panel installed to switch over to essential use during power outage. We used it just a few times. A few years ago we got the Generac for the whole house. Lately, we've had many more outages and the Generac is truly convenient.

Even though we've had a couple different kinds of generators I have little understanding of them.
it would absolutely power MOST of a home yes. they can also have an outlet installed to backfeed the panel to run the home as well!

would consider checking with the electric company later on down the line as I know at least here they offer an adapter that goes between the meter and the house that has a plug for a generator making the installation a breeze (electrician simply unplugs your meter, installs the device, plugs meter back into it). This is also an added benefit of being able to store/run the larger generator in a more convenient location without having to have a really long rv type power cable or extension cords everywhere in your home!

I also agree the instant on/whole home backup generators are amazingly convenient, but you sure pay out the nose for that convenience!
 

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it would absolutely power MOST of a home yes. they can also have an outlet installed to backfeed the panel to run the home as well!

would consider checking with the electric company later on down the line as I know at least here they offer an adapter that goes between the meter and the house that has a plug for a generator making the installation a breeze (electrician simply unplugs your meter, installs the device, plugs meter back into it). This is also an added benefit of being able to store/run the larger generator in a more convenient location without having to have a really long rv type power cable or extension cords everywhere in your home!

I also agree the instant on/whole home backup generators are amazingly convenient, but you sure pay out the nose for that convenience!
People try to jury rig a "reverse-outlet" to connect generators to homes. In the electrical industry this is called a "widow plug." Additionally it is in violation of the electrical code. It not only can kill an occupant, but also electric workers trying to restore power (unlikely, but possible.)

In order to connect a generator directly to the home electrical system, a certified transfer switch must be installed. This can be easily done by an electrician for around $500.

Without one, use properly rated extension cords from the generator and plug your devices into that.
 
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installing an outlet to plug a generator in to feed your house panel is in no way shape or form the same thing as using a double male power cable to plug into your drier outlet. and a transfer switch is not required at all in most states, only an interlock that ensures the main breaker and generator breaker cannot be active at the same time.
 
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