California shakes up auto industry, says all vans and trucks must be electric by 2024

[DannyTS]

California, in general, has more protections for renters and condo owners than many other states. When it comes to this issue, California made it a law that if a tennant wants to install an electric vehicle charging station then they can do that. They do not need the landlord's approval. Here are the details that came out in 2014, ten years prior to when this new law is suppose to occur: https://www.greencarreports.com/new...an-now-install-electric-car-charging-stations

When it comes to efficiency there are lots of variables but the simple fact is that electricity can be produced from a wide variety of sources. It can be from solar panels or wind farms or coal burning or nuclear or dams etc... this is truly the future regardless of he obvious improvements in air quality from electric cars. We need more ways to power our vehicles because it allows for more energy independence and it lets communities determine what power sources will work best for them. ICE vehicles run on petroleum and only that. It's unsustainable and too dependent on federal and foreign governments. The move to electric is also California determining it's own destiny and relying less on oil states/nations.

I also want to point out that EVs don't use motor oil. That fact seems to be overlooked in many anti-EV 'equations' about fuel efficiency.
Also, EVs use very minimal power while idling at stoplights, drive-thrus, etc. Stats that look at distances driven and compare energy used often don't factor in all the real ways we use our cars.

There are other side benefits to EVs too for instance it's not possible to get carbon monoxide poisoning from an electric car. So, for instance, I don't have to open my garage to pre-condition my car. It's safer from poisoning and safer from the theft.

1) it is the marginal KW that matters. The solar panels will produce a limited amount of electricity, the rest is supplemented by fuel. If you put an additional car on the market you have to burn more oil or coal.
2) at this moment a lot of federal subsidies go to the electric car
3) the motor oil is insignificant in quantity in the grand scheme.
4) many of the new gas cars also stop while idling. You also have the hybrids.
5) maybe not but I have read too many times about people dying in Teslas that burned like fireworks.

To me the biggest advantage of the electric cars is that it moves the air pollution from the cities to more remote areas. The noise pollution is also cut significantly.
Because the are cheaper and cheaper and because they save a lot of energy if adopted on a very large scale, I think the LED lights have a more significant environmental impact than the electric cars.

 

[pedro47]

California, in general, has more protections for renters and condo owners than many other states. When it comes to this issue, California made it a law that if a tennant wants to install an electric vehicle charging station then they can do that. They do not need the landlord's approval. Here are the details that came out in 2014, ten years prior to when this new law is suppose to occur: https://www.greencarreports.com/new...an-now-install-electric-car-charging-stations

When it comes to efficiency there are lots of variables but the simple fact is that electricity can be produced from a wide variety of sources. It can be from solar panels or wind farms or coal burning or nuclear or dams etc... this is truly the future regardless of he obvious improvements in air quality from electric cars. We need more ways to power our vehicles because it allows for more energy independence and it lets communities determine what power sources will work best for them. ICE vehicles run on petroleum and only that. It's unsustainable and too dependent on federal and foreign governments. The move to electric is also California determining it's own destiny and relying less on oil states/nations.

I also want to point out that EVs don't use motor oil. That fact seems to be overlooked in many anti-EV 'equations' about fuel efficiency.
Also, EVs use very minimal power while idling at stoplights, drive-thrus, etc. Stats that look at distances driven and compare energy used often don't factor in all the real ways we use our cars.

There are other side benefits to EVs too for instance it's not possible to get carbon monoxide poisoning from an electric car. So, for instance, I don't have to open my garage to pre-condition my car. It's safer from poisoning and safer from the theft.

Your post have enlightening me about the positive sides of EV vehicles. Excellent information. Thanks you for sharing.

 

[Clifbell]

I have an idea of using a small pickup truck to put a camper in it... I prefer timeshares over RV's but a pickup truck with a small camper in the back with the basics would suit me fine. I did a video of it and I like the idea except that you lose gas mileage with a camper. I was interested in the Tesla electric pickup as an alternative because the impact to electric battery life (and the cost to recharge) would make this interesting.

Here is the video

 

[Passepartout]

Oh Boy! A pickup camper on a Tesla truck. . . Now THAT'S gonna be a looker!

 

[Brett]

Oh Boy! A pickup camper on a Tesla truck. . . Now THAT'S gonna be a looker!

yes

https://www.caranddriver.com/tesla/cybertruck

 

[Passepartout]

yes

https://www.caranddriver.com/tesla/cybertruck

Pardon me while I don't hold my breath waiting. Anybody for another 'Back To The Future"?

 

[Brett]

The Wall Street Journal had an article on Tesla today

I thought low gas prices would hurt electric car potential sales, apparently not

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/23/tes...ntal-credits-help-drive-to-profitability.html

 

[x3 skier]

The Wall Street Journal had an article on Tesla today

I thought low gas prices would hurt electric car potential sales, apparently not

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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/23/tes...ntal-credits-help-drive-to-profitability.html

As the saying goes, there’s one born every minute.

Cheers

 

[Passepartout]

The Wall Street Journal had an article on Tesla today

I thought low gas prices would hurt electric car potential sales, apparently not

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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/23/tes...ntal-credits-help-drive-to-profitability.html

My opinion only, but I think that market capitalization has almost nothing to do with the value of the underlying company. Back a couple dozen years ago when 'Networking' was the buzz-word du jour, local chip maker Micron Technology had a higher market cap than General Motors. Right now, the buzz is about electric transport. Get 'em while they're hot! Fortunes are made (and lost) over such herd mentality.

Jim