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buying VDP timeshares at the marketplace

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If I already own a timeshare and want to buy additional timeshare at the same place, can I combine the 2?
 

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If I already own a timeshare and want to buy additional timeshare at the same place, can I combine the 2?
It's impossible to answer that question without knowing the resort or system. Most you can, some you can't.
 

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I own at studio at VDP and am thinking of purchasing from the marketplace a 1 bedroom at VDP. Can both be combined for the points or will I have 2 separate points/accounts???
 

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My two units are weeks, not points, so I deal in TPUs. I have a lockout with two studio units and, even though they are connected by a hallway, we need to deposit each unit into the same RCI account and then combine the TPUs after if we wanted to use the combination. I wasn't sure if that's what you meant by accounts but I figured this should answer that either way. Perhaps someone can address RCI points, which may be different.
 

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The question is: If I purchase from the marketplace another timeshare at VDP will I have to have 2 accounts (2 different account numbers, my original and the new one I purchase) and 2 different yearly points and 2 different maintenance fees or can they be combined into 1 maintenance fee, 1 account number and 1 yearly points totals etc. or will I always have 2 different accounts to maintain?
 

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The question is: If I purchase from the marketplace another timeshare at VDP will I have to have 2 accounts (2 different account numbers, my original and the new one I purchase) and 2 different yearly points and 2 different maintenance fees or can they be combined into 1 maintenance fee, 1 account number and 1 yearly points totals etc. or will I always have 2 different accounts to maintain?
Is it RCI points? I believe you will have one account for RCI points. Two separate maint fees which you can pay at the same time depends on where you own and their respective due dates.
 

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The question is: If I purchase from the marketplace another timeshare at VDP will I have to have 2 accounts (2 different account numbers, my original and the new one I purchase) and 2 different yearly points and 2 different maintenance fees or can they be combined into 1 maintenance fee, 1 account number and 1 yearly points totals etc. or will I always have 2 different accounts to maintain?
You probably want to ask the question or have this moved to the Mexico forum where someone may know the answer.
 

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Call the member services number you use for your contract. It's best to confirm the exact policies. They can not discuss the terms of the resellers contract but can give you some general advice. Do tell them the date of purchase as they should know the differences by date but will not know about any riders without looking up the contract which only the current owner can find out about before you buy.

All the Mexican resorts I've owned treat the contracts as completely separate transactions. Multiple accounts. multiple MF fees and no combining points or weeks. Everything is booked separately. Most Cabo resorts strip the repurchased contracts of any amenities and riders meaning it might not have the same options as your contract with different booking windows and different inflation clauses etc. I've seen different terms on identical contracts issued within the same year.
The only way I'm aware of combining them is to purchase an "upgrade" which mean paying another 10-15k for about the same thing managed under one contract.- Viva Mexico.
 

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I'd make a small wager that VDP has a customer svc phone number where you can ask. Mexican TSs just have their own rules. Also ask them what you can expect to pay to transfer the newly purchased 'ownership' into your name. Some Mexican systems have high transfer fees as a 'poison pill' against resales. They want to sell intervals themselves, not existing owners.
 

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If I already own a timeshare and want to buy additional timeshare at the same place, can I combine the 2?

Yes and No regarding Villa del Palmar. Weeks accounts do not combine when bought separately from UVC resale or from UVC. Points accounts are combine-able but all of the points have to be bought from the developers. There are currently three developers with different bylaws and in all point groups. All resale points revert to a timeshare week which would not combine with points. The only way that points can be combined other than buying from the developer is when they are gifted to a relative or occasionally transferred by name change. With some contracts a person can add another name to their points contract and in time take their name off thus transferring the ownership without a resale. No sale is reported to resortcom as a sale would make the contract revert to a timeshare week.

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Assuming both VDP accounts are points based accounts, you will have two accounts with separate point balances and separate maintenance fees. Fortunately, there is no financial penalty for having multiple accounts. At one time I had two points based accounts and one weeks (gold) account. There is no combining of weeks with points in any circumstance. You can not just combine two points accounts into one account. In the event you make some sort of upgrade agreement (I did) then the most likely result will be a single account.

However, when I had two points based accounts, I was able to transfer points from one account into the other for purposes of making a reservation. The call center doesn’t like to do it but they can. Also, remember that points reservation can be made for as few as two days... so you can make two reservations using points from one account for a few days and points from the other account for the remainder of your stay... so most of the time having multiple accounts is just a pain in the backside when making reservations. But, having multiple accounts is not really a limiting factor in getting what you want.

FWIW

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Assuming both VDP accounts are points based accounts, you will have two accounts with separate point balances and separate maintenance fees. Fortunately, there is no financial penalty for having multiple accounts. At one time I had two points based accounts and one weeks (gold) account. There is no combining of weeks with points in any circumstance. You can not just combine two points accounts into one account. In the event you make some sort of upgrade agreement (I did) then the most likely result will be a single account.

However, when I had two points based accounts, I was able to transfer points from one account into the other for purposes of making a reservation. The call center doesn’t like to do it but they can. Also, remember that points reservation can be made for as few as two days... so you can make two reservations using points from one account for a few days and points from the other account for the remainder of your stay... so most of the time having multiple accounts is just a pain in the backside when making reservations. But, having multiple accounts is not really a limiting factor in getting what you want.

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Hi Bob, have you been to the Arco lately ? Our last stay was before Christmas. The pools, hot tubs and elevators were on the blink. The new swamp on the south side of the resort that is under protection seems to be drain field over flow. They had a guy hunting rats with a hawk at the resort. After we left there were a bunch of people that were electrocuted in the hot tub, no one died, thank God. If you are still on the advisory board maybe you could tell them to get new towels and linens. The place has gone down hill since our last visit.

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Hi Bill
Yep...we were just there first two weeks of Feb. Agree with your comments that the place is going downhill:
- four of five elevators were down during parts of our visit. One was down the entire time. Was told by resort management it was about $100k to replace...apparently no fix for that one...not sure that is true.
- no pool heat...management blames on shipping delays of new heater from US...that I know I don’t believe
- hot tubs in back were closed. Someone was shocked and sent to hospital. Management said they were repaired and ready to go, but need inspection by local authorities before being reopened. Sounds like a simple bribe needs to be paid.
- That’s not a hawk nor is its purpose hunting rats. Arco (and many resorts) hire a falconer to spend an hour or two usually early in the morning at the resort a few days a week. Apparently the falcon discourages all the small birds that swarm the food being served at the outdoor restaurants and around the pool/beach.
- the swamp is usually dry. You know it is an arroyo...the water is the result of an above normal rainfall the past few months. It’s not a drain field. The smell that is sometimes noticable is from the sprinkler system used for the grass and landscaping. They used “reclaimed“ water, a typical water conservation technique used in arid climates. We see/smell it at a lot of golf courses. They do the same thing in Flamingos and in many places in US.
- we had great new towels. We were in an elite room so perhaps not in play for the entire resort.

Totally agree that it has gone downhill the past year. General member consensus is that the developer is way behind schedule in opening the new Villa la Valencia property and must be having a cash squeeze therefore not investing in capital repairs. Don’t know that is true, but the evidence speaks for itself.

I’m no longer on the board, but have already provided this feedback to another board member and several local Arco management employee.

FWIW

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