Unfortunately I'm at the other end of the state... western Mass. Thank you tho... its just a disappointment. I really thought there'd be more outdoor options.maybe the Cape has some. Hope you find some, check out food trucks also.
Unfortunately I'm at the other end of the state... western Mass. Thank you tho... its just a disappointment. I really thought there'd be more outdoor options.maybe the Cape has some. Hope you find some, check out food trucks also.
Length of mandate is unknown / just like a TUG suspensionI have been hearing this for the last 18 months. Do we have any idea how long the mandates are going to last?
With all due respect, this is a USA issue. You're a Canadian. You don't see us commenting on the decisions that your country has chosen to deal with this, but for reasons I don't understand, you seem to have an obsession with how we are handling the issue. We realize that we've not done well, but in the back of our minds, we know that we will rise. That's how we roll. Nothing will defeat us. I'm just suggesting that you focus on your own country. We've got issues, but they're "family issues". If we need help from Canada, we'll give you a call.
.......". If we need help from Canada, we'll give you a call.
Guess you didn't get the hint. Reserve your comments and critique for YOUR side of the border. We'll refer our comments to OUR side of the border. Things are rocky for now, but at the end of the day, I have no doubt that we'll defeat this thing and go on to aid the rest of the world.
Why? Because that's just how we do things. We're Americans.
Insulting comment.
Nice touch
On the 20th anniversary of 9/ 11 when Canada allowed USA airlines to land many planes at Canadian airports when they were deemed too high a risk to land in the USA .
You do realize that your son could have very well been infected by another fully vaccinated person right? It is well known by now that the vaccine does not prevent transmission of the virus. My son got it at work too. I do agree however that sick people should stay home.Get a grip. This is all political and media hype. Governments require fire extinguishers in businesses and seat belts in cars. So what! It is about public safety. If an anti-vaxxer shows up for work without testing and make others sick, they are a threat to public health and safety.
The problem is not the government but the anti-vaxxers who couldn't stay home and avoid infecting others.
Bottom line: Anti-vaxxers could not self police themselves so the govt had to step in. Blame the anti-vaxxers. They failed to do what's right to protect others. I am pissed off that my vaccinated son who works in a grocery store was infected by a covidiot who would not quarantine. My son has been called names while handing out masks at the door. He is just a college kid doing his job! It's time to nip this in the bud stat so we can get back to normal.
And yet the smallpox vaccine WAS a national thing. Hmmm
Guess you didn't get the hint. Reserve your comments and critique for YOUR side of the border. We'll refer our comments to OUR side of the border. Things are rocky for now, but at the end of the day, I have no doubt that we'll defeat this thing and go on to aid the rest of the world. Why? Because that's just how we do things. We're Americans.
Probably until the pandemic is declared over.Length of mandate is unknown / just like a TUG suspension
LOL
Danny - I couldn't resist the analogy - glad your back posting.
I just wish these new mandates would include those coming from the Mexican border. I'm reading that everyone is offered a vax yet many refuse and have tested positive.The mission to stamp out smallpox (or cowpox as it was largely referred to for centuries prior to the 1950s) was largely a global initiative. Smallpox was the first vaccine ever produced. It was a global initiative largely managed by the WHO and the vaccine was mostly produced and disseminated by the USSR. This was done during a historical time post WWII when the level of cooperation globally and the culture here in the US was much more community and consensus driven and not nearly as focused on individual rights like we are today. While there have always been subsets of folks who are vaccination skeptics - it’s nothing like we are seeing today. Show me one SCOTUS case where the argument is clearly dealing with federal level mandates and I’ll gladly say I’m wrong. I’ve tried to find one, I cannot. I therefore suspect SCOTUS will have to create precedent given what the current administration is attempting to enforce. We do live in interesting times, grab your popcorn it’s going to be fun to watch.
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You do realize that your son could have very well been infected by another fully vaccinated person right? It is well known by now that the vaccine does not prevent transmission of the virus. My son got it at work too. I do agree however that sick people should stay home.
For several months I have been told on TUG that natural immunity does not exist and should not be considered, I find it odd that when the chief doctor admits it I do not get a more substantive response.
You're not the boss of him.I'm just suggesting that you focus on your own country. We've got issues, but they're "family issues". If we need help from Canada, we'll give you a call.
@Troyrissa. Never heard of her, so I just googled her. It appears that she is not a medical doctor, or a research scientist in a lab - she is a home school science teacher (what???) and the pages are laden with discussions of how she promotes conspiracy theories. She apparently was banned from YouTube for spreading medical misinformation. (Sorry I am just calling it as I see it because I never heard of her). So how does this make her an authority on vaccines? This is like asking the local k-12 science teacher for an opinion on cutting-edge science. (I have nothing against k-12 science teachers but you need the right tool for the job.)
Do I have the right person?
If so, call me skeptical. If you have peer reviewed research Parks has conducted that is published in medical journals re: Covid transmission, I would be interested in seeing them vs. just her opinion as a high school science teacher. (Although she's a Ph.D, her research may have taken place years ago and may unrelated or out of date with current practices - who knows? The topics I researched as a graduate student are far different than current practice.)
FYI...Here is a counterpoint with peer reviewed medical articles:
"When someone feels the need to remind you of their Ph.D. credentials over and over again, this should give you cautious pause. The evidence is what matters."
Dr. Christina Parks - Viral Rant on Tdap and Covid-19 Vaccines
When someone feels the need to remind you of their Ph.D. credentials over and over again, this should give you pause.www.healthandsciencefacts.com
I would like to clarify what we know (or at least what I know) so far.Sorry to hear about your son. While it could have been a slim probability, it's important to understand the statistics behind the infection because the odds tell the story. The majority of vaxxed cannot spread the disease - it is only the minority of breakthrough infections that can spread. So it is highly unlikely that a breakthrough would have come across a breakthrough compared to coming into contact with an unvaxxed so I would still blame the anti-vaxxers for giving it to the breakthrough vaxxed person because the positivity rate is so high in his area (and the vax rates are some of the lowest in the nation.)
This is why I said before that the scientific dissent has been crushed during this pandemic. The campaign against those that spoke their mind in the scientific community has been consistent, coordinated and vicious. This is very sad, the science is about discovering the truth, not stating it unequivocally, especially with such a fast developing situation where we have new studies every day that nuance, in some cases plainly contradict, what we think we know.
The author makes several false statements some are just the official talking points, and he does not have any qualifications as far as I can tell. Dr Cristina Parks may not be in the top 5 scientists in the world ( however she still has a PhD in molecular biology) but that does not matter, they have continuously thrown mud at the top scientists as well, if they dared to challenge the official narrative.
The one wiping the floors with Dr Cristina Park has a PhD in, you are reading correctly, International Public Relations and his job is, according to his Wikipedia page, educator and activist. I guess in this case the emphasis is on activism.
I would like to clarify what we know (or at least what I know) so far.
Vaxxed and unvaxxed can shed the virus almost equally, let's get this out of the way. I can provide studies if you are interested, and Dr Fauci stated it too.
Let's get this out of the way: This is a half-truth. Yes, when they are INFECTED vaxxed and unvaxxed shed equally. However only a fraction of the vaxxed get breakthrough infections compared to the unvaxxed. Therefore, not equal when you look at it this way.. Hypothetically in a population of 100 vaxed if there is 10% breakthrough then only 10 could shed the virus. Only the breakthrough cases can shed the virus not the 90% who are covid free and protected by the vaccine.
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