best way to trade into Marriott BBC at Hilton Head?

[carl2591]

My mother in law and late father in law bought week at Baroneys Beach Club 6-7ish years ago.. the time frame is 1st week of nov, Silver i think. (even after me telling them about TUG, Timeshare Today, etc.. blew my mind when they told us.. ) The MiL likes HH at that time of year but the MF at BBC are now over 900. for the week. SHe is retired and the increase is getting harder to justify for a week..

I was going to have her sell it and maybe get something in different location with lower MF that traded with II and use for trade..

SO my question to the board is......

Where is good place to buy and maybe go to that will trade into BBC or HH during nov.. MF of 4-500 bucks would be good, 2 bed room unit.

and last but not least HAPPY NEW YEAR to all the tuggers especially the Rogers for starting and running such a good site... it has saved me 1,000 of dollars and given my family the chance to vacation in some of the coolest resorts in the world...

 

[Steve]

Foxhunt at Sapphire Valley

I would suggest Foxhunt at Sapphire Valley. It's located in a beautiful part of North Carolina...so it is close to where you live. The resort has been beautifully renovated. See pictures here:

http://www.foxhuntsv.com/FoxhuntatSapphireValleyTimeshareNC.php

The HOA has also recently hired a new management company and cleaning company. In short, things have improved dramatically and it is in very good shape.

Red weeks at this resort trade extremely well in II. I am given a bonus week for deposit. You may not use it, but it's nice to have and can really add value. It's very easy to trade into Barony during November with a Foxhunt week. (Lots of other trades are easy as well.)

Best of all, you can find a red week at this resort for under $1000. It's a great alternative for what you are looking for.

Happy New Year!

Steve

 

[lweverett]

Don't forget the exchange fee and II membership fees you have to pay to trade back into Baroney. Also, if your parents own an Oceanside unit, they will end up in a garden unit when exchanging in and be low on the pecking order for unit assignment if using a non Marriott to trade.

 

[littlestar]

Since they like November, that's off season for Hilton Head and buying Interval Getaways might be cheaper. They wouldn't be guaranteed much on view if they weren't an owner, though.

 

[dougp26364]

If she owns at BBC and stays at BBC, she could drop her I.I. membership and save the membership fee. If she sell's and then buys another unit, factor in the $89/year I.I. membership fee plus the $149 exchange fee. Since she'll lose Marriott owner priorty, you'll have to judge for yourself if it's really worth the savings.

 

[FlyerBobcat]

What would you get for your silver Barony?

I would think this through thoroughly before proceeding with such a plan.

A silver Barony just sold on ebay at under $650.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=390018071831

Given that information, buying somewhere else at a similar (or higher) price with the idea of trading back to Barony half or most of the time seems like a plan that could yield disappointment. (Now if you could sell Barony for anywhere close to the "retail" price [which might be around $15k] we are talking something different here, IMO)

$500 savings per year on MFs would be somewhat offset by the II membership fees and exchange fee (as previously mentioned). Then toss in the view at Barony that will likley be worse after trading in, the hassles of trading, etc.

If you wanna' get out of HHI and into the inland in NC.... maybe.

 

[pcgirl54]

I have not seen ebay resales that low. Yikes $650 !

I have seen BB silver weeks sell for $1500-$5000 dependent on GV/OS/OF later part of 2008. On typical sites I see silver weeks listed for $5k-$8k and a little more. I doubt the upper end moves at all.

Barony is a great resort and one of the 3 Marriott beachfront locations on the island. I do not consider Surfwatch truely beachfront.

Let me ask if your MIL cares if she is just near the beach as oppossed to on the beach. What about resorts in Shipyard area? Waterside Spinnaker is one that comes to mind and has very good reviews.

You can get late fall weeks for a decent price on ebay but you also have to consider the power of a name brand when it comes to repairs/special assessments and MF and how many units to help with the reserve fund and negligent owners who do not pay their MF.

She can rent a HH week as an II member $89 annual II fee plus getaway cost(under $500)without the hassle of owning at all. Or she can rent a condo/villa from an agency for under $800. Then she has no worries at all in case her health fails and she can chose the view and location.

http://www.intervalworld.com/web/cs?a=1014&r=0.6962260381966565&saveSearch=true

http://www.hiltonheadrentals.com/va...vrfBrooms=&vrfProperty=&vrfLocation=&vrfView=

 

[carl2591]

all good points to consider.

one question on selling the unit, if she has a current II membership will she be able to renew the II after selling the Marriott is that is the only TS she owns..??

I like the info about gateway weeks.. I am not II member so not able to see what might be available.

checked redweek.com and they have rentals by people wanting 15-$1800 a week for that time frame.. heck that more than double the MF for a slow time of year. My mil says the place is full the first week of nov.. I thinks that not the case cuz that week is listed as silver not gold. that slow shoulder season at best.

thanks to all replies

 

[DeniseM]

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[FlyerBobcat]

She can rent a HH week as an II member $89 annual II fee plus getaway cost(under $500)without the hassle of owning at all...

Ok, I need clarification here. I was under the impression that you have to own a TS week in order to have your II membership active.

Yes? No?

Thanks

 

[FlyerBobcat]

one question on selling the unit, if she has a current II membership will she be able to renew the II after selling the Marriott is that is the only TS she owns..??

That's what I was wondering..... I'm thinking it was NOT possible to do that. We'll see what others that have been in this situation -- or that know the exact rule enforcement -- have to say.

 

[carl2591]

roger that denise,
did a little housekeeping and make some upgrades as well..
thanks for the heads up.

 

[DeniseM]

Hi Carl - Nice to "see" you!

Good job!

 

[frenchieinme]

On typical sites I see silver weeks listed for $5k-$8k and a little more.

http://www.hiltonheadrentals.com/va...vrfBrooms=&vrfProperty=&vrfLocation=&vrfView=

Unfortunately it is not what they are listed for which is most important BUT what they are sold for.

frenchieinme

 

[pcgirl54]

Frenchie

Hilton Head Rentals is a site to rent condos.

I mentioned prices I have seen as solds vs asking. What a buyer wants to pay is always the key and past comps. Ebay prices vary from other markets not all buyers are as savvy shoppers as our group.

Silver is low season but not as bad as bronze. Gold would get a higher price as it borders platinum. GO and BB Gold seasons are off by a week or two and that matters so silver may be the same. Would have to look it up.

You can have access in II or RCI without owning a week. I think that topic was covered elsewhere this year about being a member to use getaways only. It's $89 a year to belong to II.

Redweek prices are owners renting their week and prices are higher than II/RCI getaways for sure or a rental agency. Most people try to recoup the MF at least in low seasons vs summer of course which has high rents and demand.

 

[FlyerBobcat]

Need to own to join II -- or not ?????

You can have access in II or RCI without owning a week. I think that topic was covered elsewhere this year about being a member to use getaways only. It's $89 a year to belong to II.

Hmmmmmm. I just called II and the rep told me you HAD to own a week to become a member of II. I re-checked that with her so there was no misunderstanding.
I then asked if it was possible to buy a getaway week w/o being an II member --- and the answer was NO!

So do others have input to settle this information conflict? Thanks

 

[dougp26364]

Fron the I.I. website under the heading "about Interval."

"Membership is limited to owners at Interval-affiliated resorts.
And while the properties are not owned or managed by Interval International, they all must meet Interval's criteria for quality."

 

[FlyerBobcat]

"Membership is limited to owners at Interval-affiliated resorts....."

Thanks Doug

 

[tashamen]

Fron the I.I. website under the heading "about Interval."

"Membership is limited to owners at Interval-affiliated resorts.

While this is true initially, if someone became a member when they had their ts but then sold that II-affiliated ts, they could still continue to be a member as long as they pay the renewal fees. II would not know that they had sold that ts.

 

[funtime]

I would not have her sell in this market. What you might do is help her to enhance your usage. Marriotts make great traders and she might enjoy trading to other places in II. Search this site for Marriott preference and you will get a host of information about the fact that only Marriott's see other Marriotts when they are first placed in the system. If she has not joined, give her a one year membership to II as a gift and then go online (with her permission and password) and find some great trades for her as well as great getaways. This makes a lot more sense that having a firesale on her unit when the economy is down. Funtime

 

[wsrobinson]

I know of a number of timeshares on HH with lower maintenance fees. With the current market, some are practically being given away. If she doesnt have to be "on" the beach, quite a few fit the bill. Most have maint fees in the $600 range depending on who manages the property.

 

[Bill4728]

That's what I was wondering..... I'm thinking it was NOT possible to do that. We'll see what others that have been in this situation -- or that know the exact rule enforcement -- have to say.

Unlike RCI were you can continue your membership after you sell your TS, II says that you must own a TS to be a member of II. BUT would II ever know if you sold??

 

[dougp26364]

While this is true initially, if someone became a member when they had their ts but then sold that II-affiliated ts, they could still continue to be a member as long as they pay the renewal fees. II would not know that they had sold that ts.

This is probably a true statement. Anytime I've made a change in my portfolio, I've been the one to tell I.I. about it. If I don't, the week I no longer has remains there for a very long time.

However, much like buying a timeshare strictly to exchange, things can change without notice. Ask any owner of a South African week how the landscape has changed over the years. Banking on I.I. remaining blind indefinately wouldn't be the best strategy.

 

[pcgirl54]

Thank You Bill for the the membership info. I was off to work this morning so no time to confirm whether it was RCI or II where one could still be a member without owning a week to trade. Too many threads to search. I know earlier this year there was a post about just such a situation in which one could join without owning. I belong to both exchange companies.

 

[sernow]

I think that if your MIL likes going to BBC, you should leave it the way it is. You most likely could buy another timeshare with MF that were less to trade into BBC, but by the time you added in the II membership plus the exchange fee, you really wouldn't be saving much. You can buy getaways for BBC for that first week in November, but the cost is going to be close to what the MF is. I also believe that you'll have a very difficult time selling that silver membership right now for more than a few hundred dollars.