Best Laid Plans

[jpa2825]

We used some expiring points to get II certificates during COVID. We didn't book anything so we paid to extend 1 of the certs (I think). We didn't book so we extended the life of the cert by paying to make it an eplus retrade and booked a 1 bdrm Villa at Westgate Blue Tree in Orlando for DEC 20-27, 2024 with the 1st of 3 retrades. (That was as far out as we could book and the theory was we'd find a location to use before then and do the 2nd of 3 retrades to book the vacation that we'd actually go on. If that fell through somehow, we'd have the 3rd retrade to try to figure something out.)

As you might expect, we didn't do any of that and we're now sitting here getting calls from the Westgate Blue Tree about our upcoming stay. Is there any value that can be gained out of this reservation? I have a niece that lives in Orlando. Can I allow her, a friend or someone visiting them to use it? I know it violates terms & conditions to "rent" the reservation to someone and I don't know how that would even be done. The email I got from Westgate does show a "Pre-register Online" and "Sign Registration Card" option but I haven't done anything with the reservation yet.

Needless to say, we are not "wise in the ways of II."

 

[sponger76]

We used some expiring points to get II certificates during COVID. We didn't book anything so we paid to extend 1 of the certs (I think). We didn't book so we extended the life of the cert by paying to make it an eplus retrade and booked a 1 bdrm Villa at Westgate Blue Tree in Orlando for DEC 20-27, 2024 with the 1st of 3 retrades. (That was as far out as we could book and the theory was we'd find a location to use before then and do the 2nd of 3 retrades to book the vacation that we'd actually go on. If that fell through somehow, we'd have the 3rd retrade to try to figure something out.)

As you might expect, we didn't do any of that and we're now sitting here getting calls from the Westgate Blue Tree about our upcoming stay. Is there any value that can be gained out of this reservation? I have a niece that lives in Orlando. Can I allow her, a friend or someone visiting them to use it? I know it violates terms & conditions to "rent" the reservation to someone and I don't know how that would even be done. The email I got from Westgate does show a "Pre-register Online" and "Sign Registration Card" option but I haven't done anything with the reservation yet.

Needless to say, we are not "wise in the ways of II."

You can add a Guest Certificate in II to change the name on the reservation to your niece, friend, or whoever it may be. It will cost ($79?) if you're not a Platinum II member.

 

[jpa2825]

You can add a Guest Certificate in II to change the name on the reservation to your niece, friend, or whoever it may be. It will cost ($79?) if you're not a Platinum II member.

Thanks. Says $69 on the II website. Upgrade to Platinum is $139 for 1 yr. and provides 5 free guest certificates per membership.

Any other options? I am guessing no.

I assume it is risky to "rent" it to someone you don't know and then use the $69 guest certificate to put it into their name?

 

[sponger76]

I assume it is risky to "rent" it to someone you don't know and then use the $69 guest certificate to put it into their name?

It can be. People do it, but if II finds out they can cancel the reservation leaving you in hot water with the renter, and ban you from II. It does happen on occasion.

 

[WorldT]

Getting a gift certificate and putting your niece name on it (and her friend) is not renting.
It is not renting even if she reimburses you for the cost of the guest certificate (she shouldn't bring that up at the resort).
Renting will be you posting an amount on the marketplace here or on eBay or redweek and some random stranger pays you a certain amount to stay there

 

[silentg]

Your niece with a guest certificate would be best.

 

[dioxide45]

Even as a Christmas week, rental value of the week would be minimal anyway. I wouldn't bother. Plus it is a violation of II terms and conditions. You could offer it up in the Distressed forum here on TUG (following the rules of course).

 

[sponger76]

Getting a gift certificate and putting your niece name on it (and her friend) is not renting.
It is not renting even if she reimburses you for the cost of the guest certificate (she shouldn't bring that up at the resort).
Renting will be you posting an amount on the marketplace here or on eBay or redweek and some random stranger pays you a certain amount to stay there

It doesn't necessarily have to be a stranger to be considered renting. Yes, advertising somewhere to have a stranger pay you is always renting, even if you are recouping less than your costs. With a relative or friend, etc, it could still be renting, for example if they reimburse you more than your costs would definitely be renting.

 

[WorldT]

That is why I said reimbursing the cost of the gift certificate. That wouldn't be more than your cost.

 

[sponger76]

That is why I said reimbursing the cost of the gift certificate. That wouldn't be more than your cost.

Yes, but then you went on about renting specifically being to a stranger via advertising on different sites.

 

[WorldT]

Advertising and renting to a stranger even at below cost (MF plus GC) can still be considered renting.

 

[Hindsite]

Getting a gift certificate and putting your niece name on it (and her friend) is not renting.
It is not renting even if she reimburses you for the cost of the guest certificate (she shouldn't bring that up at the resort).
Renting will be you posting an amount on the marketplace here or on eBay or redweek and some random stranger pays you a certain amount to stay there

The II terms and condition have got it covered nice and clearly that its no form of consideration, in addition to the many personal use clauses.

They may well let many of these cases go, but they don't have to.