Bacon may disappear in California as pig rules take effect

[DrQ]

Bacon may disappear in California as pig rules take effect

A California law taking effect Jan. 1 could make pork harder to find and more expensive. Voters in 2018 overwhelmingly approved the law, which requires more space for breeding pigs, egg-laying chickens and veal calves.

apnews.com

 

[CalGalTraveler]

Ha! We can have pot but not bacon. Soon we'll see bacon smugglers sneaking across the border.

 

[bizaro86]

Some producers will switch, but I'd expect the market price to go up. Just like California compliant gasoline is more expensive for the same utility, so California compliant bacon will be.

 

[kanerf]

Fake bacon and chicken sausage are nasty. Yet another reason never to return to California.

 

[Luanne]

Fake bacon and chicken sausage are nasty. Yet another reason never to return to California.

I'm sure California will miss you.

 

[Brett]

 

[Passepartout]

Well, here come even more Californians! We have a restaurant in Boise called- you guessed it- BACON! You can even get 'Bacon flights' Individual cups of strips of gourmet BACON! Ya gotta LOVE a place like that. Boise BACON Breakfast and Lunch (baconboise.com)

Jim

 

[SmithOp]

heading to Costco to stock up on bacon…

 

[davidvel]

I doubt it will disappear, but costs will certainly rise. I have already noticed a price increase. Not sure if tied to this or the overall increase in meat prices.

 

[DrQ]

 

[TravelTime]

The law is a good one. There is a lot of animal cruelty in farms. Would you want to be eating abused animals for breakfast? It’s bad enough to raise innocent animals to slaughter them but to eat animals who have been abused before they were murdered just to have breakfast or dinner?

 

[dioxide45]

The law is a good one. There is a lot of animal cruelty in farms. Would you want to be eating abused animals for breakfast? It’s bad enough to raise innocent animals to slaughter them but to eat animals who have been abused before they were murdered just to have breakfast or dinner?

Not sure that Prop 12 was about abuse of the animals, but rather about minimum space requirements. The pigs may still be abused or not abused. Generally an animal living on a corporate farm isn't there for enjoyment or much else other than to get fattened up to be sent to slaughter.

 

[DrQ]

The law is a good one. There is a lot of animal cruelty in farms. Would you want to be eating abused animals for breakfast? It’s bad enough to raise innocent animals to slaughter them but to eat animals who have been abused before they were murdered just to have breakfast or dinner?

Veal (Not sorry)

 

[isisdave]

Proposition 2, which was approved by voters in 2008, was responsible for great improvement in the existence of egg-laying hens. It's raised the price of a dozen to about $3 --25 cents each.

Here in Indiana, I was shocked in Walmart the other day to discover that it is possible to buy a dozen large eggs for as little as 95 cents -- eight cents each. About 80% of the non-organic eggs on display were in this range, and the California-compliant ones were $2.79. Organic ones were mostly California-compliant and cost more.

I'm willing to pay a quarter for an egg, here or there. Somehow, the pig industry will survive (assuming there's enough water, about which I've begun to wonder). I think I read that 2/3 of California's pork comes from out of state, and that there will certainly be providers.

One of the surprises about Indiana is that pork costs a little more than in California, and beef is a LOT more, so much so that some supermarkets have ads that read, for example, "RIB EYE STEAKS 8.95" and then in small letters "8 oz portion."

 

[TravelTime]

Not sure that Prop 12 was about abuse of the animals, but rather about minimum space requirements. The pigs may still be abused or not abused. Generally an animal living on a corporate farm isn't there for enjoyment or much else other than to get fattened up to be sent to slaughter.

The cramped space for animals is part of their abuse. I knew someone who was an activist for farm animals like pigs and others. He said the abuse of animals for slaughter was horrifying.

 

[dioxide45]

The cramped space for animals is part of their abuse. I knew someone who was an activist for farm animals like pigs and others. He said the abuse of animals for slaughter was horrifying.

Perhaps, but his view was of course biased. he was an activist afterall. Ask the farmer and he would say it isn't quite that bad. The truth is somewhere in the middle.

 

[davidvel]

The law requires that pregnant pigs have at least 4'x6' of space. They currently have about half this amount.

 

[geist1223]

All food is organic. I only buy eggs for about $1.00 per dozen, Milk about $2.00 gallon, I love veal. I really do not worry about how the food source is raised.

 

[davidvel]

All food is organic. I only buy eggs for about $1.00 per dozen, Milk about $2.00 gallon, I love veal. I really do not worry about how the food source is raised.

And you live in Oregon? Better not let this get out.

 

[easyrider]

Rules made by people that know very little about their rules seem to be popular in California and other places. I like the rule that no vehicle without a driver can travel over 60 mph. One good thing might be hobby farmers in CA might make some money selling pork at the farmers markets. They will likely buy it in bulk in Oregon and Nevada and claim they raised it gmo free.

Bill

 

[am1]

The law is a good thing as livestock should we raised in healthier conditions.

 

[RunCat]

Time to start raising pigs. . . .

 

[CanuckTravlr]

At times like this, in the middle of a pandemic, I'm glad my government is focused on the really important things, IMO. It also means I will be able to continue to enjoy my pork chops, bacon and veal, without any apologies.

 

[davidvel]

At times like this, in the middle of a pandemic, I'm glad my government is focused on the really important things, IMO. It also means I will be able to continue to enjoy my pork chops, bacon and veal, without any apologies.

I know little about Canadian government, but this was voted in well before the pandemic, in 2018. Farmers were given 3 years to adapt, but spent their time fighting the law, and losing.

 

[Passepartout]

I know little about Canadian government, but this was voted in well before the pandemic, in 2018. Farmers were given 3 years to adapt, but spent their time fighting the law, and losing.

Nothing new here. Take a look at the history of 'Real ID act' in the USA. Enacted in 2005 to curb terrorism, and STILL not in effect. <shrug>