• The TUGBBS forums are completely free and open to the public and exist as the absolute best place for owners to get help and advice about their timeshares for more than 29 years!

    Join Tens of Thousands of other Owners just like you here to get any and all Timeshare questions answered!
  • TUG has a YouTube Channel to produce weekly short informative videos on popular Timeshare topics!

    Come check it out for a chance to win a Free TUG membership (or renewal) just for helping out!

    Read more here
  • TUG has now saved timeshare owners more than $19,000,000 dollars just by finding us in time to rescind a new Timeshare purchase! A truly incredible milestone!

    Read more here: TUG saves owners more than $19 Million dollars
  • Our 2022 Timeshare Survey is now complete and the full results as well as our expert and witty analysis of each question is available here: Here We hope you enjoy reading the results as much as we did!
  • Follow the TUG Member Banner as it travels the world on vacation with Timeshare owners! Also sign up to get the banner sent to you so you can submit a photo of your vacation with the banner to share with TUG! Banner Thread
  • Sign up to get the TUG Newsletter for free! 50,000+ subscribers! Latest resort reviews and the most important topics discussed by owners during the week!
  • Our official "end my sales presentation early" T-shirts are available again! Also come with the option for a free membership extension with purchase to offset the cost!

    Read more Here
  • A few of the most common links here on the forums for newbies and guests!

[Aug. Thread] Pahio Resorts under Wyndham Management

JMAESD84

TUG Member
Joined
Jun 11, 2007
Messages
609
Reaction score
0
Points
16
Location
New Hampshire
I was recently approached with a buying opportunity for some of the Pahio Resorts, specifically:

Pahio at Kuaui Beach Villas
Pahio at Ka'Eo Kai
Pahio at Bali Hai Villas

Is there anything up at these resorts (special assessments), management problems, etc that I should be concerned about. I don't know much about Pahio and I believe that these units will remain weeks based and outside of the Wyndham FSP system.

I believe I've listed them best, better and good. Do you agree?
 

teepeeca

TUG Member
Joined
Jun 6, 2005
Messages
1,276
Reaction score
1
Points
246
Location
Vacaville, Ca.
I don't know of any S.A. forthcoming. I "DO" like the Pahio resorts---have owned the Ka'Eo Kai since since 1988 (both phase II and III). From what I have seen, I "DO NOT" like the Wyndham management !!! I "think" the KEK and KBV will remain "mostly" in the "weeks" domain. The "good developer", selling the Bali Hai is pressing VERY HARD to have the new Suckers (err, owners) buy into the Wyndham points scheme.

I "do not" agree with your ranking. The KEK are "huge" units, at a very desirable location. The KBV are "excellent", BUT it depends upon which unit you buy into. (Most of the units are NOT ocean view or front, so people checking into there "might" be disappointed with the view.) The Bali Hai units are very nice, IF (my opinion) you get a top floor, end unit.

All of that said, the lanais at the Bali Hai are TINY !!! I really doubt that you could get 4 people sitting out there, and all of them could be comfortable. (The KEK has 800 square foot lanais.)

Everybody has their own choices and criteria.

Tony
 

DeniseM

Moderator
Joined
Jun 6, 2005
Messages
56,449
Reaction score
7,430
Points
1,849
Resorts Owned
WKORV, WKV, SDO, Kingsbury Crossing/Tahoe, Kauai Beach Villas, Hyatt High Sierra.
What is the deeded view on the KBV unit? I'm an ocean front owner at KBV and love the ocean front units, but I wouldn't buy a garden view or lagoon view unit there. The ocean front location makes all the difference.

Be sure you use the search function on this board to search for each resort by name (Search this Forum button) and also search for Pahio for tons of info.

Pictures from our July trip to KBV
 
Last edited:

slabeaume

Guest
Joined
Aug 4, 2005
Messages
591
Reaction score
32
Points
338
Location
Dallas, Ga
We're lagoon view owners at KBV and love those, too. Have stayed in an ocean view a couple of times and love those even more, but we aren't around much when it's daylight anyway.
 

Bill4728

Moderator
Joined
Jun 6, 2005
Messages
10,845
Reaction score
423
Points
869
Location
Lake Tapps, WA
There has been several thread about buying PAHIO units. Mostly they are positive except for one portion of the purchase. That is the PAHIO ROFR.

Since 2005, Pahio has been putting ROFR into all their deeds, BUT they can't do it retroactively. Yet they have been trying to do it and causing many problems with the sales of older weeks that don't have ROFR.

IMHO, if buying a PAHIO week, make sure that the current owner bought before ROFR & make sure that the closing company knows that PAHIO/Wyndham has lied (and may lie again) that they want the unit back thru ROFR even when there is no ROFR.
 

dixiemama24

newbie
Joined
Dec 8, 2008
Messages
3
Reaction score
0
Points
1
Bali Hai Villas has the lowest maintenance fee per point, if you do decide to put it into the Fairshare Plus program. KaeoKai has the best lanai's. Kauai Beach Villas is the most centrally-located.

Good luck. You'll be happy with any of them; they're on Kauai! :)
 

rifleman69

TUG Member
Joined
Aug 23, 2005
Messages
602
Reaction score
1
Points
228
Location
Oregon
Just say no to the Fairshare plus program at Bali Hai Villas, it's way overpriced.
 

rickandcindy23

TUG Review Crew: Elite
TUG Member
Joined
Jun 6, 2005
Messages
27,888
Reaction score
6,304
Points
1,049
Location
The Centennial State
Resorts Owned
Wyndham Platinum Founders(cough,gag). RCI, Shell, and WorldMark points. Disney's OKW and SSR pts; Marriott's Willow Ridge (4);Val Chatelle (7); Hono Koa (3); SBP lots and lots, SDO a few; Grand Palms (selling those). WKORV-OF (2).
Bali Hai Villas has the lowest maintenance fee per point, if you do decide to put it into the Fairshare Plus program. KaeoKai has the best lanai's. Kauai Beach Villas is the most centrally-located.

Good luck. You'll be happy with any of them; they're on Kauai! :)
This is Hawaii, so fees will go up, unfortunately. :(
 
Top