• The TUGBBS forums are completely free and open to the public and exist as the absolute best place for owners to get help and advice about their timeshares for more than 30 years!

    Join Tens of Thousands of other Owners just like you here to get any and all Timeshare questions answered 24 hours a day!
  • TUG started 31 years ago in October 1993 as a group of regular Timeshare owners just like you!

    Read about our 31st anniversary: Happy 31st Birthday TUG!
  • TUG has a YouTube Channel to produce weekly short informative videos on popular Timeshare topics!

    Free memberships for every 50 subscribers!

    Visit TUG on Youtube!
  • TUG has now saved timeshare owners more than $23,000,000 dollars just by finding us in time to rescind a new Timeshare purchase! A truly incredible milestone!

    Read more here: TUG saves owners more than $23 Million dollars
  • Wish you could meet up with other TUG members? Well look no further as this annual event has been going on for years in Orlando! How to Attend the TUG January Get-Together!
  • Sign up to get the TUG Newsletter for free!

    Tens of thousands of subscribing owners! A weekly recap of the best Timeshare resort reviews and the most popular topics discussed by owners!
  • Our official "end my sales presentation early" T-shirts are available again! Also come with the option for a free membership extension with purchase to offset the cost!

    All T-shirt options here!
  • A few of the most common links here on the forums for newbies and guests!

Attended Owners update at WKORV

Lentos99

TUG Member
Joined
Jun 13, 2011
Messages
6
Reaction score
0
Location
Barrie
My wife and I attended an owners update at WKORV this morning and received our points.

We didn't buy anything but asked a lot of questions. There was zero pressure, but a discussion about how SVO could help us "maximize" our vacation plans in the future. This discussion lead to understanding how they could help us "improve" our portfolio.

We indicated we had zero interest to purchase despite the owners discounts and SPG points, and if we were to purchase in the future it would be through the resale market. We were told that we would never be able to close on any resale opportunities for WKORV or WKORVN as they are exercising their ROFR on all resales for these properties due to the lack of inventory. If true, this does not bode well for anyone trying to get into these properties through the resale market.

We had a visit from a sales manager who answered questions regarding the SVO development roadmap. He also tried to entice us into an EOY purchase for WLR. I asked about the development of the vacant Ka'anapali property. He indicated the new development must adhere to new "Green" standards which are far more expensive than traditional construction methods. The development timeline is still a ways out. (3/5yrs.) He indicated the development roadmap also includes new development of properties on Oahu and the Big Island as well.

I asked about Mexico as we own at WLR. He indicated they have plans for Cabo...but only once WLR is sold out.

Does anyone else have any more information regarding SVO development plans?

Enjoying Maui for another 10days! Aloha everyone!
 

Pedro

TUG Member
Joined
Jun 6, 2005
Messages
991
Reaction score
57
Location
FL
How many points did you receive?
 

DeniseM

Moderator
Joined
Jun 6, 2005
Messages
58,698
Reaction score
10,614
Location
Northern, CA
Resorts Owned
WKORV, WKV, SDO, 4-Kauai Beach Villas, Island Park Village (Yellowstone), Hyatt High Sierra, Dolphin's Cove (Anaheim) NEW: 3 Lawa'i Beach Resort!
Right now - everything is on indefinite hold. There is no financing for new timeshares in this economy.
 

mrzman

newbie
Joined
Jan 14, 2007
Messages
11
Reaction score
0
Location
Seattle
I just sold my WKORV unit and Starwood did not exercise ROFR. Not that anyone needed confirmation that the sales reps are wrong when they say that, but just in case. :)

-Tim
 

vacationtime1

TUG Review Crew: Veteran
TUG Member
Joined
Sep 7, 2006
Messages
5,412
Reaction score
3,067
Location
San Francisco
Resorts Owned
WKORV-OF (Maui)
WKV x2 (Scottsdale)
I just sold my WKORV unit and Starwood did not exercise ROFR. Not that anyone needed confirmation that the sales reps are wrong when they say that, but just in case. :)

-Tim

Assuming your deal has closed, would you mind sharing what size unit, what view category, and what price? We have a number of data points showing prices where Starwood is exercising ROFR; it would help to have data points at which it waives ROFR. Thanks.
 

SDKath

TUG Member
Joined
Dec 30, 2007
Messages
3,076
Reaction score
16
I just sold my WKORV unit and Starwood did not exercise ROFR. Not that anyone needed confirmation that the sales reps are wrong when they say that, but just in case. :)

-Tim

Can you be more specific please?
 

Sea Six

TUG Member
Joined
Oct 15, 2005
Messages
4,045
Reaction score
873
Location
Marco Island, FL
Resorts Owned
Club Regency - Marco Island
Lagunamar - Cancun
Vistana Villages Key West (2) - Orlando
How's that WIND treating you ?
 

Maui_ed

TUG Member
Joined
Sep 18, 2008
Messages
269
Reaction score
35
Location
Pacific Northwest
Resorts Owned
WPORV, WKORV, WDW
I asked about Mexico as we own at WLR. He indicated they have plans for Cabo...but only once WLR is sold out.

Does anyone else have any more information regarding SVO development plans?
I would absolutely love it if Starwood developed something in Cabo. I don't know if I would love it enough to buy another property, but it is one of the few places they could develop that would make me pause to consider. :)
 

mrzman

newbie
Joined
Jan 14, 2007
Messages
11
Reaction score
0
Location
Seattle
Assuming your deal has closed, would you mind sharing what size unit, what view category, and what price? We have a number of data points showing prices where Starwood is exercising ROFR; it would help to have data points at which it waives ROFR. Thanks.

2 bedroom lock off
Ocean View
$20k

-Tim
 

Scott & Laura

TUG Member
Joined
Jun 12, 2008
Messages
139
Reaction score
0
Location
Andover Minnesota
Hello;

Here is the CEO and CFO February 2012 Earnings Call quote

Before I turn to our outlook for 2012, I want to share some highlights from our Vacation Ownership business. Like our hotels, SVO had a strong year. Contract sales in the fourth quarter were up 6%, with pricing up 1%. Delinquencies and defaults are now back to pre-crisis levels. For the full year, revenues grew 8%. SVO generated $200 million in cash, which brings the 3-year total to about $700 million. By comparison, that's roughly equal to the market cap of the newly spun-off Marriott Vacations business. Looking ahead, we have several years of inventory left to monetize, and our team is looking at capital friendly and high return ways to maintain our sales pace.

Starwood is becoming a FEE Driven and not a Real Estate owned company
They also say they are looking at growing through oppurtunity that enhances their brand more than investing Capital

Go here and you can read earnings calls, with ability to highlight Key words

http://seekingalpha.com/symbol/hot?source=search_general&s=hot

Scott & Laura
 
Top