Are pro sports going to come back?

[am1]

I have my doubts as MLB players do not want to take a per game pay cut even if playing in empty stadiums.

NBA, NFL and NCAA football players are not social distancing by protesting. (not political but a fact).

NHL will have issues getting players back from Europe, Russia and into Canada. Why should all games be played the in US? All could be played in Canada just anyone entering needs to quarantine for 14 days upon entry.

 

[Shankilicious]

NHL wants to play in the US cuz that's where the money is.

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[geekette]

....All could be played in Canada just anyone entering needs to quarantine for 14 days upon entry.

that doesn't sound convenient.

 

[bluehende]

NBA, NFL and NCAA football players are not social distancing by protesting. (not political but a fact).

Can you give me any data on this fact????????? And since they have testing not available to the rest of us why would this matter?

 

[am1]

Can you give me any data on this fact????????? And since they have testing not available to the rest of us why would this matter?

You you have seen athletes from those leagues marching? A lot of times leading the protests. Nothing wrong with it but coming in contact with more people puts them at risk and then they put the hundreds of other workers that will be cooking, cleaning, security, driving them around at risk.

Regardless of what testing they have available it sets a bad example that even people that will make millions are not taking precautions.

 

[Shankilicious]

....All could be played in Canada just anyone entering needs to quarantine for 14 days upon entry.

that doesn't sound convenient.

Yeah, that's something most Americans wouldn't/can't do due to work and other time constraints.
Also, the NHL is already having limited practices so the players from other countries/continents are in North America already

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[bluehende]

You you have seen athletes from those leagues marching? A lot of times leading the protests. \

I have not. One NBA player who was friends with George Floyd I saw in public but not in a crowd. Other than that I have seen none. I have seen a lot of videoed statements but live....nope. While I am sure some have participated you have no idea whether they were being careful or not and am surprised it would be brought up in the op that was questioning whether sports would return.

 

[SueDonJ]

I am a RedSox true fanatic but can't imagine feeling comfortable enough to go sit in a stadium anytime soon; certainly not this year if they open and maybe not next year either. But I really do miss the games and I'm curious about how it will be if/when they're playing in empty venues - I listen to radio broadcasts when I'm in my sewing room and pretty much every game is on our TV at night. The rest of the sports I can take or leave but Don's missing all of them.

If anything good comes of this sports-wise maybe a widespread temporary fear of attending games in-person will put a stop to out-of-control player/venue/vendor contracts paid for by obscenely-priced tickets and concessions. A girl can dream.

 

[geekette]

.... Regardless of what testing they have available it sets a bad example that even people that will make millions are not taking precautions.
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Um, SO? Point to other people that are household names not taking precautions. What does their income have to do with anything?

Why is it up to athletes to "set an example"?? hint: It isn't.

 

[am1]

.... Regardless of what testing they have available it sets a bad example that even people that will make millions are not taking precautions.
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Um, SO? Point to other people that are household names not taking precautions. What does their income have to do with anything?

Why is it up to athletes to "set an example"?? hint: It isn't.

They are public figures. No problem protesting in crowds but then do not comeback to work at put people making a lot less money in harms way.

 

[am1]

Yeah, that's something most Americans wouldn't/can't do due to work and other time constraints.
Also, the NHL is already having limited practices so the players from other countries/continents are in North America already

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All players are not already in North America. North American based players are not all in their home cities practicing.

 

[am1]

I have not. One NBA player who was friends with George Floyd I saw in public but not in a crowd. Other than that I have seen none. I have seen a lot of videoed statements but live....nope. While I am sure some have participated you have no idea whether they were being careful or not and am surprised it would be brought up in the op that was questioning whether sports would return.

If you use google you can find a lot of examples.

 

[bbodb1]

It seems as if the question of whether pro sports are coming back is mostly answered. The question to ask now is can they stay back...

 

[Passepartout]

As businesses and venues open, we are seeing a resurgence in cases. Arizona is nearing hospital bed capacity. People WANT to socialize, but the disease is STILL OUT THERE! Until the Covid-19 pandemic is controlled, sports venues will HAVE TO remain closed.

 

[bogey21]

Pro sports will survive but I see a change in the Business Model to compensate for diminished gate receipts, parking, concessions and the like. Over time Salary Caps will make it easier for all but baseball to adjust. The big problem will be with College Sports Programs in the Major Conferences which are supported by Football and Basketball Revenue...

George

 

[am1]

It seems as if the question of whether pro sports are coming back is mostly answered. The question to ask now is can they stay back...

Thats why I mention the athletes not socially distancing. For it to work they have to be in a bubble and give up the lifestyle they are used to.

How many cases before the teams/leagues get shut down?

 

[Brett]

I have my doubts as MLB players do not want to take a per game pay cut even if playing in empty stadiums.

NBA, NFL and NCAA football players are not social distancing by protesting. (not political but a fact).

NHL will have issues getting players back from Europe, Russia and into Canada. Why should all games be played the in US? All could be played in Canada just anyone entering needs to quarantine for 14 days upon entry.

Thats why I mention the athletes not socially distancing. For it to work they have to be in a bubble and give up the lifestyle they are used to.

How many cases before the teams/leagues get shut down?

yeah, your thread is not really about professional sports coming back or social distancing .." a fact" ................

 

[bbodb1]

Thats why I mention the athletes not socially distancing. For it to work they have to be in a bubble and give up the lifestyle they are used to.

How many cases before the teams/leagues get shut down?

I did see that players who test positive in the NBA are pretty much expelled from further participation in the league this year and that each team was allowed to name a couple of replacement players (in case this occurs). Expanded rosters and substitutions in soccer are coming too. Haven't yet read how the NHL will address this but I am looking forward to the resumption of hockey.

So at least some of the leagues appear to be thinking and planning along this line but only time will tell if they have planned in enough detail.

We live in interesting times.

 

[geekette]

...For it to work they have to be in a bubble and give up the lifestyle they are used to.

Why? No other workers are living in bubbles, and most all of us gave up the lifestyles we were used to. How is it safer for the assembly line worker? Why only be concerned about health of athletes?

 

[am1]

...For it to work they have to be in a bubble and give up the lifestyle they are used to.

Why? No other workers are living in bubbles, and most all of us gave up the lifestyles we were used to. How is it safer for the assembly line worker? Why only be concerned about health of athletes?

Because that is what the owners require to make it work as millions/billions of dollars are on the line.

Sleep at the hotel, breakfast, practice, lunch, play the game, dinner repeat has to the the itinerary. WWF, AEW, UFC can get away with less as there are less athletes and more of an individual activity and weekly/bi weekly instead of daily.

I posted months ago that first responders/doctors/nurses should live in a bubble and then quarantine and then visit the family and repeat. A few on here thought that was wrong and made them sick.

I have no problem with pro athletes sitting out if that is what they want. Hopefully not cave to peer/fan/sponsorship pressure.

 

[bbodb1]

...For it to work they have to be in a bubble and give up the lifestyle they are used to.

I did see some discussion on this point around the NBA restarting and the concept of living in a bubble was used as part of their strategy to minimize contact with those outside the bubble who may not have undergone as stringent testing and isolation as the NBA players were supposed to do prior to the restart. One takeaway from this is a lot of non players that hang on to players will now be outside the bubble.

One thing for sure - how we do a lot of things is changing.

 

[geekette]

Seems too far to go for a job, no matter how well it pays. It's not a reasonable expectation of anybody. Give up your home life? Nah, I quit. Living my actual life is more important to me. I suppose others will choose the job. Everyone has their own priorities.

 

[DeniseM]

am1 - It seems like your goal in starting this thread is to push your opinions about protests and social distancing, rather than talking about professional athletics. TUG has a rule about duplicate posts.

 

[Big Matt]

Just my opinion, but I think there would be a huge number of people who would go to a pro sporting event without any concern at all. I think you could get at least 10,000 fans at a MLB game (other than in Miami where they can't draw that anyway). The bigger challenge is all of the social distancing that is being enforced. If you simply left it up to the people, you would see everything move back to normal. Just think about how many people you would really be in contact with at a game. Maybe 10 people around you (front, back, and sides) at a game. Maybe a few more in line entering the game. It isn't like you are going to be touched by the 10,000 fans.

If we see fans at games before the end of the year, I'd be rather surprised. I think the NFL will be fine due to the TV money and so few games relative to the other sports. Hockey, NBA, and MLB are going to lose a lot of money. I think the billionaire owners can afford it for the most part. They are just greedy.

 

[LannyPC]

NHL wants to play in the US cuz that's where the money is.

It was just announced that, if/when the NHL returns to play, Las Vegas will be a "hub city".:

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/vegas-nhl-hub-city-announcement-expected-june-22/?shawct=1

That actually goes against some of the speculation that was going around about a month ago. It was suggested that Canadian cities would be considered because of the lower expenses due to the sagging Canadian dollar.