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That is really a bummer... I can't imagine that people don't use the ovens. But I've been told many times on these boards that people don't cook on vacation.

Having a fully operational kitchen (incl. an oven -- grrr) was on the top of the list for reasons why we bought a timeshare. Once you stay in a villa, it's really hard to go back to "just" a hotel room.

My husband and I will be going on a couples trip to the Marriott Camelback, which is an awesome resort, in a few months but the thought of having to eat out every meal is a big deterrent for me. Restaurant choices are limited, their portions are waaay too big, and it costs a lot of dough to pay for all those meals out! I'd rather save on food and do a great activity instead.
 

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Question for those who've been to WKORV-N: Does the lanai have a table and chairs?

We're OF owners, if it makes a difference.
 

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Question for those who've been to WKORV-N: Does the lanai have a table and chairs?

We're OF owners, if it makes a difference.

Yes it does, a small table and two chairs, great for ealy morning coffee or late night drinks.

I will add some pictures of the resort this weekend.
 

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For those that may be interested in keeping your stuff in storage in between visits, I came accross the following webiste:
http://www.5aspace.com/

I am not sure of pricing but for snorkels, surfboards, golf clubs, biking / hiking stuff, etc. this could be a good idea.

Looks like it's $43/month for a 2 x 3 foot unit, which is not big enough to store boogie boards, golf clubs, etc. Too bad. Because if it were bigger and cheaper, maybe a bunch of Tuggers could go in on one unit and share boogie boards, etc.

They really should have second hand shops that sell used boogie boards, etc. I don't mind paying $10 for a new boogie board nearly as much as I mind leaving a perfectly good one behind. I'd donate it for free to the second hand shop vs. pitching it.

I wouldn't even mind if Westin would provide a space for used equipment, which would be free to anyone who wants to use it. Of course that would compete with their rental shack...
 

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Thanks for posting the pictures. It's gorgeous there, though the living room was rather small. We'll be traveling with 8 people, so it's going to be tight. :)
I think the photos are the studio side - correct?
 

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No they are not.
 

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Negma... thanks for sharing the photos. I'm sure the pictures will be helpful to other owners.
 

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Negma... thanks for sharing the photos. I'm sure the pictures will be helpful to other owners.

Thanks, it is funny because I had not done this before so I went to the web site you had used. I will have more pictures added outside the resort hopefully tonight.
 

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The title says it is 1 bdrm deluxe.

Sorry - I didn't see title when I first looked, but I see it now.

Wow - in the photos - it seems small - that is why I thought it was teh studio I should try and link our 2Bd OF Deluxe WKORV photos (1Bd and studio) to TUG for a comparison - if I could figure out how...

The difference in size (at least in the photos) is dramatic.

Ours is in shutterfly - I will attempt.
 

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Sorry - I didn't see title when I first looked, but I see it now.

Wow - in the photos - it seems small - that is why I thought it was teh studio I should try and link our 2Bd OF Deluxe WKORV photos (1Bd and studio) to TUG for a comparison - if I could figure out how...

The difference in size (at least in the photos) is dramatic.

Ours is in shutterfly - I will attempt.

Try this - these are photos of the studio-side of WKORV (not WKORV-N) OF Deluxe that I took for rental purposes.

http://davidnrobin.shutterfly.com/action/

Password is TUG

If this works - I will upload the 1 Bd side photos

PS - it seems to work
 
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The photos work. Thanks.
I've been in the units at WKORV-N and they are definitely larger than the photos suggest; it must be either the lens or perspective.
 

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The photos work. Thanks.
I've been in the units at WKORV-N and they are definitely larger than the photos suggest; it must be either the lens or perspective.

I would hope so.

I just added the 1Bd side - the group photo is Thanksgiving dinner (prepared in part using full-size oven that I didn't get a photo off) - my lovely wife (Robin) is at the far end of the table (boy - I am lucky...)
 
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David, What floor were you on when you took those photos?

The new North units are sure small, I too thought the other photos were from the studio side.
 

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Try this - these are photos of the studio-side of WKORV (not WKORV-N) OF Deluxe that I took for rental purposes.

http://davidnrobin.shutterfly.com/action/

Password is TUG

If this works - I will upload the 1 Bd side photos

PS - it seems to work

Great pictures... Are there two dishwashers in photo 20? It almost looks like two white appliances. Am I seeing that right?

Tina
 

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I would hope so.

I just added the 1Bd side - the group photo is Thanksgiving dinner (prepared in part using full-size oven that I didn't get a photo off) - my lovely wife (Robin) is at the far end of the table (boy - I am lucky...)

Loved the Thanksgiving photos and the sunset looks amazing... We'll be there next Thanksgiving and I can't wait!!!
 

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Great pictures... Are there two dishwashers in photo 20? It almost looks like two white appliances. Am I seeing that right?

Tina

That's the clothes washer and dryer. In the deluxe corner units they are under the kitchen counter. It makes it nice to have the counter right there to fold clothes!
 

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That's the clothes washer and dryer. In the deluxe corner units they are under the kitchen counter. It makes it nice to have the counter right there to fold clothes!

They are some European brand - but work well enough.

This unit was on the 2nd floor - this was our first visit, and the owner reserved from HI at around 2PM at the 12th month mark. We liked being on the south-side of the building. We were first to call this year - so we will see where we end up. I requested the top floor on the same corner (and we are now 3*).

We love the light and semi-panoramic view having the large windows on the side of tye Deluxe unit. Now that I have figured out how to post photos - I will post Westin St John and STJ photos (on another thread) so others can see.
 

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They are some European brand - but work well enough.

This unit was on the 2nd floor - this was our first visit, and the owner reserved from HI at around 2PM at the 12th month mark. We liked being on the south-side of the building. We were first to call this year - so we will see where we end up. I requested the top floor on the same corner (and we are now 3*).

We love the light and semi-panoramic view having the large windows on the side of tye Deluxe unit. Now that I have figured out how to post photos - I will post Westin St John and STJ photos (on another thread) so others can see.

I think they're ASKO. I'll be looking for the pictures - would love to see them.
Unfortunately, I don't think we'll get to WSJ until we no longer have to follow school schedules.
 

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Hi All,

I am new to TUG and I was very excited to come across this thread. We purchased a 2BD IV EOY at WKORV-N two years ago. At the time, Starwood was not selling OV units, so we decided to go forward with the IV purchase. We paid $22,500.

Our first use year is 2008 and we are now getting ready to make our reservation for the Fall. We decided to call a SVO salesman and inquire into the price to upgrade to an OV unit. At current pricing the cost would be an additional $12K.

I am really impressed with all the knowledge and opinions shared amongst the users of this board, so I thought I would solicit some more! I realize posing these types of questions is very subjective, nevertheless, I'd love to hear some personal views from those who are familiar with the resort and/or have had the good fortune to have visited to date.

Are the IV view corridors really going to be that much better than that of the South property, in that this lot appears to be much narrower and thus the buildings placed much closer together? This appears especially true where Bldg 6 is overlooking the kids pool and then looking at the north most building of the South property (not sure of the bldg number).

According to a view legend I was emailed by the salesperson spoken to (I'm sorry, I don't know how to post it here), Bldg 7 on the north end of the property behind the OF Bldg 8 runs parallel to the 10 acre dedicated open space with a 500 ft view corridor that is just south of the proposed phase three villas. The view legend shows that levels 3-6 of Bldg 7 house the dedicated OV villas, esentially giving these owners OV and 10 acre open space views as well.

Have any of you who have stayed to date ventured over to this part of the property? For those of you who are owners and/or are familiar with this property, please share your opinions. Do any of you think that an additional $12K for a 2 BD OV EOY is a fair amount, so to speak?

Again, I know this is a very subjective question, but I really look forward to any replies!

Thanks!
 

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Welcome aboard.

It is my opinion that you MIGHT want to keep what you have. And here's why:

As Westin finishes the north property and begins construction on the new development to the far north in Maui, and as Westin continues to expand to other great locations, I believe that getting into Maui will be much easier, both for SVN owners and for II owners who wish to trade into Maui. Since you are an owner there, I assume that you'd get priority anyway when it comes to upgrades vs. others who simply traded in. (And I say this based on nothing but what seems fair to me.) So you might be paying an extra $12.5 for something they would have given you for free. (And the fact that they low-balled the figure makes me even more suspicious.)

Unfortunately they don't publish their pecking order for upgrades, so I can't guarantee this, but it seems reasonable that their pecking order is: SVN resort owners, SVN traders, II owners, rentals. But they might decide not to upgrade home resort folks at all in order to entice them to upgrade their view. Who knows?

(Someone here suggested another idea which I think is pretty crafty. IV owners should not use their home resort booking period at all but instead should call at the 9 month mark and be treated as any other SVN owner trading in. Since SVN owners in will definitely get priority over II owners trading in, even if SVN decides not to upgrade home resort owners you'd hopscotch over other IV owners by waiting for the SVN Priority window and being at the top of that list. Of course, this idea might not work during a very popular week.)

Another reason that you may want to keep what you already have is if you plan to do a lot of trading, either via SVN or II. As an OF owner, I am very reluctant to do SVN or II trades because you don't carry your view with you. Once I travel to another resort, my premium OF view goes out the proverbial window and I'm in queue along with everyone else, including IV/OV owners. So IV owners definitely get a better deal overall when it comes to trading to other resorts because you are given the same number of StarOptions as OV/OF owners, at a fraction of the price! The trading power of 148,100 StarOptions for the price you paid, $22.5k, seems like a dream deal.

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That being said, acc. to FredM, OV resales are currently going for $49.5 and developer price is listed at $65.9k. So $34.5 all in beats even the current resale price. If you're going to be spending a lot of time at your home resort, and if view is important to you and you don't want to stress about being upgraded, you might want to go ahead and take the offer now. Of course, for all the reasons I mentioned, I'd certainly ask for a boatload of StarPoints while I was at it. (Hey, it doesn't hurt to ask.)

Good luck with your decision.
 

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That being said, acc. to FredM, OV resales are currently going for $49.5 and developer price is listed at $65.9k. So $34.5 all in beats even the current resale price.

Are those resale prices for EY or EOY? I am pretty sure the $69.5K is for an EY OV. Aviatrix's deal is for EOY units.

The IV units are much better than at WKORV. At WKORV you get a view of the parking lot or maybe even of the building next door. There are probably a few units that aren't that bad, but I think none of the WKORV-N units will face a parking lot. Some might look at building 2 of WKORV and the kiddie pool but that beats the parking lot. Most of the IVs will be looking at the main pool inside the complex. OV is nicer still, as described.
 

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Do any of you think that an additional $12K for a 2 BD OV EOY is a fair amount, so to speak?

Again, I know this is a very subjective question, but I really look forward to any replies!

Thanks!

For $12K - I would buy 81K SOs resale at WKV, and forget about the upgrade - you would get more mileage out of this money using WKV to exchange or stay there (even with the additional $600+ in MFs/Taxes).

I know this wasn't exactly what you were asking - and my opinion
 
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