Any TUGers prohibited from going to their second/vacation home?

[MrockStar]

This Friday by Order of Governor Whitmer MI we where at our lake cottage on 1 weeks Vacation where my Immune suppressed Wife is SIP for 6 weeks had to choose stay for three weeks or return home for three weeks and no travel to/from both locations. Iam still an essential employee who returns each week the comes back on weekends to shop/assist my wife so she can SIP there and stay Safe. Very upset/mad about this and so are many neighbors/friends from up there. This seems extreme and ridicules as I drive straight there no stops, remove clothing in garage and shower when I arrive to stay with only my wife. No politics here just wondering how other TUG members who own vacation/second homes are affected by this. :-/

 

[Luanne]

Not me, but a friend of mine who now lives in MD and has a lake home in KY told me that there has been a lot of discussion on the FB page for her lake home about wanting to prohibit anyone from out of state coming in. She isn't sure if that would mean they could not come in and use their lake home.

 

[TravelTime]

We own two homes about 2 hours apart. We have not been traveling back and forth but I think it is allowed. I know of people in the Bay Area who are traveling between residences and visiting family who live hours away. I read that Lake Tahoe has asked second home owners to stay away, though. Even though I think most people in California are obeying the SIP, many people are still on the road. Whatever we are doing here must be working since the numbers seem to be flattening. I do not think it is appropriate to limit second home owners from going to their property. If you own a home, you should have access to it. Just visiting a second home does not mean you will spread the virus if you are following all the protocols. I agree these restrictions seem extreme. I understand that the rationale is that hospitals in smaller towns do not have adequate health care resources but then why did they allow developers to build up these communities?

 

[DebBrown]

This Friday by Order of Governor Whitmer MI we where at our lake cottage on 1 weeks Vacation where my Immune suppressed Wife is SIP for 6 weeks had to choose stay for three weeks or return home for three weeks and no travel to/from both locations. Iam still an essential employee who returns each week the comes back on weekends to shop/assist my wife so she can SIP there and stay Safe. Very upset/mad about this and so are many neighbors/friends from up there. This seems extreme and ridicules as I drive straight there no stops, remove clothing in garage and shower when I arrive to stay with only my wife. No politics here just wondering how other TUG members who own vacation/second homes are affected by this. :-/

Are both homes in Michigan? You are not supposed to travel between homes in Michigan but you can travel to/from your out of state home. We've been at our lake cottage for weeks now and don't plan on leaving but the rules allow us to go back and forth to Chicago.

However, if both homes are in Michigan than the exception rule might apply: "To care for a family member or a family member’s pet in another household."

 

[DebBrown]

Not me, but a friend of mine who now lives in MD and has a lake home in KY told me that there has been a lot of discussion on the FB page for her lake home about wanting to prohibit anyone from out of state coming in. She isn't sure if that would mean they could not come in and use their lake home.

There's this kind of talk everywhere. Northern Michigan and Wisconsin want to keep people out. In part it makes sense. These less populated areas don't have medical facilities that can treat multiple people with respiratory distress.

 

[Passepartout]

We have a second home a couple hours away. There has been no restriction. That said, when there we like to attend arts, sports, galleries, bars, restaurants, theaters. Ummmm That isn't happening. We went there last weekend to check on the place- there has been an eaethquake and we wanted to check for damage or clutter. There was none. The place was fine. We didn't see any of the neighbors. We noticed vehicles of so e of the other part-time residents but didn't cross paths. We took all our meals from home and didn't even go to the grocery store.

Of course, in the back of the mind was the thought, 'If infected or quarantined here how would that work?' Probably not too well under the current circumstances.

Jim

 

[slip]

Somewhat, we have plans to go to our condo on Molokai the first two weeks of May. Right now any travel has a 14 day quarantine through April 30th. I haven’t canceled yet but we probably will. There are two confirmed cases on Molokai and it is a small community so we will probably push our plans to June unless something changes.

 

[Krteczech]

Estes Park, CO asked second home owners to stay at their permanent residences. This was justified as not to overburden local resources such as hospital and grocery store. Hotels, restaurants and RMNP are closed and CO has SIP until 4/26/20 for now.

 

[x3 skier]

I was in my place in Steamboat Springs when the mountain closed four weeks early on 15 Mar. I had no restrictions on leaving and left 21 Mar for Ohio arriving the next day. No restrictions AFAIK but no reason to return.

Cheers

 

[Cornell]

You can buy lottery tickets in MI still ! Priorities!

 

[turkel]

We work and have a 500 sq foot apartment in NorCal and a house in SoCal. We have been to SoCal once for a week and will go again at the end of April for a week. Sorry no SIP order will change this. It is far more comfortable to SIP in SoCal. A perk is less traffic but I did learn having to empty your bladder in LA is a no go. Will plan accordingly next time.

 

[Cornell]

There’s a big difference between discouraging people from going to vacation homes (bc of the lack of medical infrastructure in vacation areas) but for a Governor to prevent people from going to property that they OWN is an entirely different matter.

 

[CalGalTraveler]

+1 @Cornell This is a grey area. I see lawsuits brewing if this continues beyond a short period. These are deeded property owners who pay more property taxes into the county infrastructures than locals because second homeowners don't receive a homestead exemption.

Of course the response is that "There is limited infrastructure." So the question becomes "These additional tax revenues are a gift. Why are the counties not managing these additional tax receipts from second homes better to support the entire community? Where is additional the money going?"

In some locations, they are telling second homeowners that they cannot even visit to check or maintain their homes. Property owners have rights. Some of the locals are acting very vocal and entitled on places like Nextdoor even though second homeowners are paying thousands to support local infrastructure while realizing little benefit themselves.

These counties are on thin legal ice. County administrators have been relying on the fact that second homeowners don't vote in their county. However they should be careful not bite the hand that feeds them.

 

[Luanne]

There’s a big difference between discouraging people from going to vacation homes (bc of the lack of medical infrastructure in vacation areas) but for a Governor to prevent people from going to property that they OWN is an entirely different matter.

With my friends they would be crossing state lines. And at this point it's not the governor of the state that doesn't want them to come in, it's the other owners at this lake property development.

 

[Sugarcubesea]

This Friday by Order of Governor Whitmer MI we where at our lake cottage on 1 weeks Vacation where my Immune suppressed Wife is SIP for 6 weeks had to choose stay for three weeks or return home for three weeks and no travel to/from both locations. Iam still an essential employee who returns each week the comes back on weekends to shop/assist my wife so she can SIP there and stay Safe. Very upset/mad about this and so are many neighbors/friends from up there. This seems extreme and ridicules as I drive straight there no stops, remove clothing in garage and shower when I arrive to stay with only my wife. No politics here just wondering how other TUG members who own vacation/second homes are affected by this. :-/

I’m also very surprised with her new executive orders that she just put into place. I went to Costco today (I keep trying to do online grocery but when I went online at midnight 3 days in a row to only have delivery dates of May 12, 14, 15, or 17 to choose from) I went to Costco and bought two weeks worth of groceries and tried to buy a toy for my grandson but alas no. The governor has ordered the big box stores to cover up and not sell anything but food. So no toy for my grandson, No weed killer to kill the gobs of weeds that sprouted up over the last two days. My faucet in the bathroom sprung a leak, nope I could not buy a new one at Costco.

 

[MrockStar]

You can buy lottery tickets in MI still ! Priorities!

Essential activities ?? Drinking is ok, but I cant plant flowers or trees !@#%&?

 

[Gracey]

We have a cottage outside Mackinac city, just flew in from Florida last night with the idea of driving straight up north. To stay away from metro Detroit area since the area has been hit so badly. Was shocked to find out we couldn't go to our cottage.

 

[T-Dot-Traveller]

We have a cottage near Lake Huron / 2.5 hour drive . We day visited 3 weeks ago
to have wifi reestablished ( last had in 2016) and turn the heat back on .

It is a our Mad Max back up plan for now .
We also may go occasionally for a few days once the weather is warmer ;since it will be very easy to social distance.and still be outdoors.

Nearest Hospitals are Goderich & Clinton - they are great for putting a cast on broken bones and stabilizing
a heart attack ; before transfer to a regional medical centre .

This thread did remind me that a number of friends who are from Michigan are unable to use their places since the border / Bluewater Bridge from Port Huron to Sarnia is closed to non essential travel .

 

[MrockStar]

It was so critical Thursday afternoon that The Governor HAD to institute the executive order BEFORE the weekend instead of Monday morning, so that counties like Roscommon & Crawford with 6 covid-19 cases each wouldn't be overrun with weekend cottage owner checking on their places after the LONG cold MI winter for damage/problems.

 

[CO skier]

Sometimes I think the Oklahoma panhandle was created to act as a demilitarized zone between Texas and Colorado.

'Don’t Mess with Colorado': Colorado's attorney general stands behind Gunnison County for public health order telling non-residents to leave

A Colorado county is ordering non-residents to leave and the attorney general for Texas is fighting back.

www.kktv.com

Gunnison county took a page out of its history book:

The 1918 Spanish flu killed 8,000 people in Colorado, but Gunnison only had 2 cases. Here’s why

Gunnison is being used as a case study for effective isolation from the outside world amid an outbreak of an infectious disease.

www.9news.com

 

[Krteczech]

I was in my place in Steamboat Springs when the mountain closed four weeks early on 15 Mar. I had no restrictions on leaving and left 21 Mar for Ohio arriving the next day. No restrictions AFAIK but no reason to return.

Cheers

We were at another ski resort 3/5-3/17,at our ski condo. Our stay was extended due to getting sick and quarantined. We had no problem driving back home. I 70 had almost no traffic because ski resorts were already closed. Now, going back to our condo would fall into category of second home owners who are being ask not to travel. Hopefully we will get there when SIP Colorado restrictions are lifted. Stay home, stay healthy!

 

[easyrider]

It was so critical Thursday afternoon that The Governor HAD to institute the executive order BEFORE the weekend instead of Monday morning, so that counties like Roscommon & Crawford with 6 covid-19 cases each wouldn't be overrun with weekend cottage owner checking on their places after the LONG cold MI winter for damage/problems.

I went up to our mountain home last week to check our place. No problem. I went up this Thursday and Friday to turn on the pump and check for leaks. On all trips I did go Jeeping but we were well spaced out doing the social distance thing.

What I did notice while Jeeping is there were many people camping in the closed forest. Our entire state is closed regarding activities. While Jeeping we looked at a ridge where some one had planted three crosses. They were not there last week. It reminds me of Easter and those mountains are my church so it didn't bother me a bit.

Bill

 

[am1]

You have a chance of infecting your wife or others or bringing it back to where you live. The more movement the longer this will take and the more people will get sick and die. We are restricted from traveling 5 minutes from our house. (A different province) Our beach house is there and we cannot really go there. If everyone was limited to zones this would be a lot better.

 

[Chrispee]

We have a cabin on a nearby island with a full-time population of 10k. There is a strongly worded advisory for only essential traffic to the island, but so far no ban. Our cabin is over an acre on a lake so it would be easy to self-isolate, but out of respect for the community we are not visiting during the pandemic.

 

[Xan]

This Friday by Order of Governor Whitmer MI we where at our lake cottage on 1 weeks Vacation where my Immune suppressed Wife is SIP for 6 weeks had to choose stay for three weeks or return home for three weeks and no travel to/from both locations. Iam still an essential employee who returns each week the comes back on weekends to shop/assist my wife so she can SIP there and stay Safe. Very upset/mad about this and so are many neighbors/friends from up there. This seems extreme and ridicules as I drive straight there no stops, remove clothing in garage and shower when I arrive to stay with only my wife. No politics here just wondering how other TUG members who own vacation/second homes are affected by this. :-/

UPDATE in new post at end of feed posts on how to bypass buying paint & garden items in MI.

Don’t even think of firing up your motor on the boat, or buy paint up there! She definitely needs to be removed from office...she can’t even fix the roads, and now is the perfect time to work on them with low traffic! Oh, and don’t even think about trying to grow your own food, buy plants or seeds, or maintain your yard...I’m sure if you have an HOA, or city ordinances on lawn height, you are in trouble, especially for those not able to do the job themselves!
I sure hope she’s out of a job by the time I finally get to move back there! (No time frame yet...finances will determine that! In VA, we are on lockdown until June 10th, but a tad less restrictive.)

I do actually legally co-own the family home in the Detroit area with my brothers, which are in ill health and live there. I’m not sure if the in home nursing care stopped for my one brother that desperately needs the help, since the other isn’t capable. I’ll hopefully find out today. ( I do have medical power of attorney over them if anything happens, but with the restrictions in place at hospitals and my distance of several states, I doubt I can do anything beyond the phone.)

I rarely go out due to my Chronic Fatigue, but when I do, I go everywhere to get everything I need done, now I feel I’m in prison...at least my hubby gets the groceries and mail. Don’t know if I can take 2 or more months of this!

Our landscapers seem to be out several times a week, and definitely not social distancing when they pile back into the truck... (they also don’t understand English)...I live in a townhouse style condo community, and I see people walking around, plus lots of cars coming and going at all hours, except this weekend is a curfew until Monday at 5am, to make sure you don’t celebrate Easter w/family!

I’m getting ready to loose my mind over the restrictions of our freedoms in this country! I say let us take our health into our own hands, just close the airports to all travel (essential or not)!

I could go on a rant forever...

Sorry about your wife.
How is anyone to know if you brought her back home? (Tell nosey neighbors, medical emergency!)
Not sure what you do for work that may harm her health if she came home and was in your airspace?


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