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Any dog trainers around?

stmartinfan

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I didn't want to hijack the thread about dog breeds, so decided to start a new topic. I'm hoping some of the posters on that thread that sounded very knowledgable about breed characteristics and training can help with my question.

We've got a rescue mixed breed - combination Westie and Schnauzer, we think based on the physical appearance and probably about 2 years old, based on energy level. He was abandoned and ran for several months before being rescued and placed with a foster home for 3 months before coming to us. He was completely housebroken and came when he was called. We took him to a basic obedience class at the pet store and he successfully learned the routine commands, like sit, stay, leaving a treat until given permission, etc. He's pretty "needy" in terms of being very attached to me, wanting to sit touching me, following me around the house and getting into a bit of a panic when he doesn't now where I am. But he can be trained, because he's learned that he has to stay on a small blanket placed at the foot of our bed and cannot sleep where he wants - with this nose in my face!

The behavior that's annoying is his furious barking whenever someone rings our doorbell or even walks past our yard when he's outside. I think some of this is the terrier in him, but I'm trying to figure out how to deal with it. When the doorbell rings, he throws himself at the door (it's partial glass, so he can see the shape outside), and barks continuously until the person comes inside, and then will finally calm down if the person invites him to approach and make contact. When he's outside and not on a leash, he will rush at the person walking by and bark furiously. Again, he'll calm down when he makes contact with them, but it's pretty intimidating to a poor neighbor walking by! I don't let him out by himself now and he will come back when called but he's still barking like crazy.

When we're not home, I don't mind his barking at the doorbell, because he sounds fierce, but I'd rather he not throw himself at the door. When we're home, I'd be OK with him barking but then stopping on command and greeting the person calmly.

I've seen the dog whisperer programs, and it looks like they start by finding the "place" for the dog to go and teaching a command with treats to go to that place, and then moving on to doing it on command when the door bell rings. But I'm not sure how to get rid of the barking part. For the outside walkers, again, I'm not sure because it's somewhat instinctual to protect his turf from outsiders?

I am willing to take him back to the second training class, which covers more advanced behaviors if that would be a better way to teach this.

Thanks for any insight from dog experts!
 

timeos2

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It most likely IS the terrier in him. We have no answers but have learned the pattern & know how to deal with it. If you get an answer that works we'd be interested to know it! Terriers protect their turf & family in no uncertain terms. But they are extremely smart & can be trained - we just haven't figured out the right training for the issue you mention.

Treats don't work with Chelsea as she "watches her weight" and won't eat a treat unless she's hungry. She will take it & hide it - we found scrambled eggs hidden in the sheets in each of the two beds in a pet friendly place we stayed at during our last Fl trip - but it isn't a winning reward for good behavior with her. Good luck.
 
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Definitely not a trainer. First time dogmom to a border collie (labelled Hound Mix at shelter so we had no idea what we were getting into...)

I found animal behaviorists, etc., at ClickerSolutions Yahoo Group. They helped me so much. You do not have to use a clicker or even care what it is. I survived puppyhood and more, thanks to the awesome info found.

Maybe they are to dog training what Tug is to timeshare users??

GOOD LUCK! and bless you for homing a rescue!
 

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When we got our rescue dog we found a local trainer that came to the house and trained with us. It was VERY good and the whole family was involved. It was probably about $200 for 3 sessions but money VERY WELL spent. I would suggest that so they can work directly with the problem.
 

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I'm not a trainer but we run a pet advocacy non-profit to get unwanted dogs and gets new homes. I've trained a few dogs too as we've had 12 over the years plus work weekly with the shelter pets in our town.

The best thing we learned with your situation is the "down" command. When your dog starts to ramp up at the door put him in a down (stay) and don't release him until your guest is inside the house and things have calmed a bit. If your trainer didn't teach you the long down-stay you will need to practice it (daily) not just when the doorbell rings in order to get your dog to mind you. You should be the boss (alpha dog) but it sounds like you're letting him make the decisions not you. It takes some training to get them to learn this but it is the best "tool" in your toolbox for treating this issue.
 
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